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appalachiablue

(41,143 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:05 PM Feb 2019

Official: Gov. Northam Tells Staff He's Staying

Source: AP

15 mins. ago. RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam told top staff Friday that he is not going to resign over a racist photo as another sexual assault accusation was leveled at his lieutenant governor, who would succeed him if he stepped down.

Northam called an afternoon Cabinet meeting to announce his intention to stay, a senior official said. The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Also Friday, a second woman came forward to accuse Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of sexual assault. The woman said in a statement that the attack took place when she and Fairfax were students at Duke University. The Associated Press is not reporting details of the allegation because it has not been corroborated.

"I deny this latest unsubstantiated allegation. It is demonstrably false. I have never forced myself on anyone ever," Fairfax said in a statement after the accusation was made public Friday.


Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/official-gov-northam-tells-staff-hes-staying/ar-BBTlSEp?ocid=HPCOMMDHP15



On Saturday pressure on Northam peaked as practically the full Virginia Democratic establishment and nearly every Democratic presidential hopeful called for his resignation. The Northam issue has lessened in the face of new scandals involving Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax and Atty. Gen. Mark Herring which have shaken the Old Dominion.
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Official: Gov. Northam Tells Staff He's Staying (Original Post) appalachiablue Feb 2019 OP
Northam claims he is not in racist KKK photo. democratisphere Feb 2019 #1
That's only half the problem. Shemp Howard Feb 2019 #5
Your last comment absolutely needs to be flushed out by democratisphere Feb 2019 #6
The editor already gave a statement. He doesn't remember. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #15
Agree on both the Govenor and Lt. Governor. democratisphere Feb 2019 #17
Although governors cannot run for re-election in Virginia, alp227 Feb 2019 #36
If Fairfax Raped, COL Mustard Feb 2019 #38
+1 ChiTownDenny Feb 2019 #9
Your comment points out that mjvpi Feb 2019 #19
Nice turn of the phrase there! Shemp Howard Feb 2019 #20
Have you seen your college or grad school yearbook? spooky3 Feb 2019 #29
Certainly! Shemp Howard Feb 2019 #34
And I'm saying that, because my experience was spooky3 Feb 2019 #35
Northam has already admitted at140 Feb 2019 #10
Disagree. When it is part of an MJ costume, it is not racist. democratisphere Feb 2019 #13
Oh sweet summer child, yes it is still racist. Mein gott. nt DRoseDARs Feb 2019 #14
Sorry, but still disagree. democratisphere Feb 2019 #18
If he was only trying videohead5 Feb 2019 #21
Hopefully this shitshow doesn't dampen democratic turnout too much. temporary311 Feb 2019 #2
Well to counter it somewhat our guys might want to consider using Kavanaugh as well as Trump as cstanleytech Feb 2019 #4
This might actually bring more democratic voters next time at140 Feb 2019 #16
i honestly can live with it as long as he apologizes correctly this time and... Mars and Minerva Feb 2019 #3
+1 SunSeeker Feb 2019 #7
Agree.. not to mention this is the repukes doing. Thekaspervote Feb 2019 #24
Ralph Northam/Tommy Norment says he is staying, not resigning. keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #8
As any prosecuting attorney would examine .... Duppers Feb 2019 #11
strange catsudon Feb 2019 #12
Northam shouldn't resign now that Fairfax will not be Lt. Gov for much longer madville Feb 2019 #22
Why Not?? LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #23
I still don't get why the school isn't being blasted for publishing this. MrGrieves Feb 2019 #25
The school did not publish it. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #26
The School Yearbook Didn't Need Sign Off From The School? MrGrieves Feb 2019 #27
?? It is in the public university library. And since this spooky3 Feb 2019 #30
What a terrible situation. The Lt. Governor appears to have to go. dem4decades Feb 2019 #28
The AG (Dem.) is next in line behind LG. Then, it's a spooky3 Feb 2019 #31
Sorry i meant AG. But he also had a black face problem. dem4decades Feb 2019 #32
It is still the South and these events occurred in the distant past. spooky3 Feb 2019 #33
Agree, all of them should remain in office onetexan Feb 2019 #37
I think there should be investigations with due process spooky3 Feb 2019 #39
Agree, at least give him the presumption of innocence till his day in court onetexan Feb 2019 #40

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
5. That's only half the problem.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:40 PM
Feb 2019

This is no small issue. I'd also like to know how that picture got on his yearbook page in the first place.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Your last comment absolutely needs to be flushed out by
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:47 PM
Feb 2019

investigative journalists. Who is in the pic? Why did the editor and publisher of the yearbook include this photo?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. The editor already gave a statement. He doesn't remember.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:31 PM
Feb 2019

That was 35 years ago. He said students usually or often designated their own pics for their own pages (I've never heard of having one's own page in a yearbook, so I'm not sure what that means), but he can't say for sure they all did that, or if someone else gave him the pic.

Northam didn't take the pic, obviously, so it wasn't his, but someone could have given it to him. Or given it to the editor to include.

It's up to Virginians, who voted him in, whether to keep him in office or not, IMO. If the national Dem Party doesn't want Northam in it, he has said he'd consider serving as an Independent.

I think he made the right decision, for now. Let the furor subside and see where things are. Let the voters of that state decide what they want to do.

Joy Behar has now admitted that she dressed up as a famous black celebrity (I forget who), for something. The View showed the picture. She didn't wear blackface, but wore regular makeup that was a bit darker than her own skin. So I guess some people didn't think it was wrong to dress up as black celebrities for special occasions? Northam said he remembers dressed up as Michael Jackson for a dance content. He looks sort of like Jackson in that photo.

Fairfax may be toast. But again, that's for Virginians to decide. He's their elected official. Those are very serious allegations.

It's suspicious that these things are coming out on BOTH of them, now that they've won. And the AG, third in line to governorship, too. Fourth in line is a Republican. Very suspicious.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
36. Although governors cannot run for re-election in Virginia,
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:12 AM
Feb 2019
Voters can petition to hold a recall trial in a state court. It's not the same as the recall elections that sent a certain action movie star to the governor's office in California over 15 years ago.

COL Mustard

(5,899 posts)
38. If Fairfax Raped,
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:21 AM
Feb 2019

Then it's up to the prosecutors to decide his fate, not us regular people. But I absolutely agree with you that the timing of all of this is beyond coincidence.

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
19. Your comment points out that
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:41 PM
Feb 2019

this was the culture of the whole school that he went to if that made it into the yearbook. That doesn’t make it any less damning, but does set a baseline for personal growth. Unfortunately, that opportunity blew right past the governor. I had heard good things about him. Not a progressive visionary, but a conservative guy who thought things through and believed hat government can solve problems. But he has serious foot in mouth disease.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
20. Nice turn of the phrase there!
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019

"set a baseline for personal growth"

Well said. If Gov. Northam had been honest from the get-go, this indeed could have turned out well. Just say: Here's what happened. Here's why it was wrong. And here's what I have learned from it.

But instead all we've gotten from the governor is a series of shifting stories. And one of those stories Northam put out is that he has never seen his own yearbook page! Really? I feel like the public has been lied to. That's nothing new. But I'm not very happy with it.

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
29. Have you seen your college or grad school yearbook?
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:31 AM
Feb 2019

I don’t even know if my university had one. I saw my HS yearbook, but that is all.

Please folks outside VA, look up info about Northam’s record in office (he was a pediatrician in the southeastern part of VA before entering public life). He’s not a slick politician and what precipitated this revelation by a right wing rag was his attempt to protect pro choice rights. He might be considered “conservative” by AOC district standards, but not by standards in VA or most other parts of the country. He screwed up horribly (if he was involved in the photo) and that’s what he needs to figure out and address.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
34. Certainly!
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:05 AM
Feb 2019

Last edited Sat Feb 9, 2019, 10:41 AM - Edit history (1)

When I got my high school yearbook, the first thing I did was go to my page. Same with my college yearbook. It's the egotism of youth, I suspect.

Maybe it's possible Northam never once saw his own yearbook page. And maybe no one ever once mentioned it to him. Maybe. But that's very unlikely. It's so unlikely that I have to wonder if Northam is being honest with us.

But I do agree with your last statement. Northam should just figure out what happened, and tell us the truth. Then we should all move on.

Should Northam resign? I think so.

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
35. And I'm saying that, because my experience was
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 02:10 AM
Feb 2019

Different from yours, it’s very easy to believe that he did not see the yearbook. I don’t recall anyone I knew talking about a college yearbook —and I would think even fewer would buy and look at a graduate school yearbook. So I’m inclined to believe he either misremembered seeing it or never did, rather than that he deliberately lied about it. But that’s something an investigation would help with.

at140

(6,110 posts)
10. Northam has already admitted
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:23 PM
Feb 2019

He painted black face on another occasion.
If we are going to improve race relations, we must not trivialize painting black faces.
It is a form of disparaging folks who are African-Americans.

videohead5

(2,177 posts)
21. If he was only trying
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 10:32 PM
Feb 2019

Be like MJ it's not racist to him because he was a big fan I doubt a real racist would be of fan of MJ.

temporary311

(955 posts)
2. Hopefully this shitshow doesn't dampen democratic turnout too much.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019

This is an election year for the state legislature, no? Albeit one with a less republican favoring gerrymandered map than the last time.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
4. Well to counter it somewhat our guys might want to consider using Kavanaugh as well as Trump as
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:31 PM
Feb 2019

both have a history of mistreating women and yet Repugnants still supported them.

at140

(6,110 posts)
16. This might actually bring more democratic voters next time
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:34 PM
Feb 2019

because the democratic party would set an example that any form of racism is unacceptable, and will not be tolerated in the democratic party.

On the other hand if this is all swept under the rug as no big deal, that will certainly dampen black voters and fair minded white voters in the next election, because republicans will use it mercilessly in campaign Ads.

Mars and Minerva

(369 posts)
3. i honestly can live with it as long as he apologizes correctly this time and...
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:28 PM
Feb 2019

dedicates the next four years to promoting a real and effective Rights agenda.
Anyone can change and grow. This is his chance to prove that he can and will. He has a smart wife who should be put in charge of kicking his butt every day on the issues of racial and religious progress.
He should appoint a real, diverse and powerful board to help guide him in a landmark program to shine a light on the history of Jim Crow. If he does it right, it might end up being a mitzvah.

keithbvadu2

(36,821 posts)
8. Ralph Northam/Tommy Norment says he is staying, not resigning.
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:19 PM
Feb 2019

Ralph Northam/Tommy Norment says he is staying, not resigning.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
11. As any prosecuting attorney would examine ....
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 08:41 PM
Feb 2019

..when cutting a deal, what is the greater good?

If all 3 of these men leave, an evil will take power that will do whatever they can to undo Civil Rights and women's rights in Virginia.

What is the Greater good?


Why now is this info out? There's ratfucking going on.

madville

(7,412 posts)
22. Northam shouldn't resign now that Fairfax will not be Lt. Gov for much longer
Fri Feb 8, 2019, 11:05 PM
Feb 2019

He's the better option to keep around in the current scenario. Virginia Black Caucus is now demanding that Fairfax resign and articles of impeachment will be introduced Monday if he hasn't resigned by then.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
25. I still don't get why the school isn't being blasted for publishing this.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:04 AM
Feb 2019

I mean WTF? Why do they skate free?

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
30. ?? It is in the public university library. And since this
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:35 AM
Feb 2019

mess began, there have been investigations of other old university yearbooks, with racist and sexist photos found in them (see a WaPo article about this).

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
28. What a terrible situation. The Lt. Governor appears to have to go.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:27 AM
Feb 2019

If Northam goes then the SOS probably had to go. Then a Republican becomes Governor?

If that's the case, Northam should stay. Why replace a racist from 30 years ago that no longer is one with a present day racist?

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
32. Sorry i meant AG. But he also had a black face problem.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:48 AM
Feb 2019

What went on down there? I consider Virginia an up and coming blue state, i hope this doesn't spoil that.

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
33. It is still the South and these events occurred in the distant past.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:55 AM
Feb 2019

They were wrong but imho are not indicative of what these men have done in office recently.

The Repubs are pissed that Northam is fighting to keep pro choice rights. They are aware that they are losing power in an increasingly urban, and hence, bluer state. And if they can get all three Dems to resign, a Republican is next in line. This would enable them to thwart the gerrymandering changes of 2020.

As a VA voter I am pissed that if that were to happen the will of the voters would be overturned. We sent a clear signal in 2017 and in 2018 that should not be ignored.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
37. Agree, all of them should remain in office
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 05:30 AM
Feb 2019

This is getting to be ridiculous that a hard fought battleground where Dems now have upper hand in the state government now is forced to crumble. We have trump & Kavanaugh in the highest offices of the country for God's sake. Let's not eat our own and let these good men who've not done anything wrong in office serve out their terms. This is Al Franken all over again .

spooky3

(34,457 posts)
39. I think there should be investigations with due process
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 06:36 AM
Feb 2019

And a good decision afterward. The accusations against Fairfax are quite serious and these would constitute crimes.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
40. Agree, at least give him the presumption of innocence till his day in court
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:07 PM
Feb 2019

but don't demand that he resign until it's ruled the allegations are proven true. After all, it was alleged words of a RW-leaning gal that started against Al Franken. But it was Democratic members that took him down by demanding his resignation. Hanging a man before his guilt is proven is the same as it was in the wild west. Where is the justice in that?

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