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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:33 PM Jan 2019

Feds Seized 'Several Years' of Roger Stone's Communications

Source: Daily Beast

FBI agents seized several years worth of Roger Stone’s communications following his arrest last week, prosecutors told a federal judge on Thursday. In a motion to ask for more time to bring Stone’s case to trial, the feds said one reason is because discovery is “both voluminous and complex,” adding up to “several terabytes of information.” It includes results of search warrants served on Stone’s Apple iCloud accounts and email accounts, as well as warrants served on his home, apartment, and office that seized Stone’s cellphones, computers, and hard drives. After the evidence is filtered by a separate FBI team to separate out communications that are privileged (such as discussions with his attorney), it will be given to prosecutors and shared with Stone’s defense. Stone is charged by Special Counsel Robert Mueller with eight counts related to alleged lies to Congress about his discussions with WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. The case will be jointly tried by the U.S. Attorney for D.C., who filed the motion. Stone’s defense doesn’t oppose the move.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-seized-several-years-of-roger-stones-communications



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Feds Seized 'Several Years' of Roger Stone's Communications (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2019 OP
Stone's known he was a target for over a year....does anyone really think he SayItLoud Jan 2019 #1
Stone is a blackmailing dirty trickster so he probably kept evidence to hold over other people wishstar Jan 2019 #3
That and I'm not sure he thought he'd ever really get caught Maeve Jan 2019 #11
Or, he was certain of a pardon. bitterross Feb 2019 #17
Yeah, I think he would've cleaned up his mess. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #6
How do you wrap this thing up quickly when you have so much Jarqui Jan 2019 #2
Talk of Mueller finishing soon could be just a ploy to get Dems to delay investigating/impeaching wishstar Jan 2019 #4
I worried that it was a ploy to set public expectations that it will be over soon Jarqui Jan 2019 #5
The WH mouths say that every now & then. "It's almost concluded." "The report will be soon." Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #7
I saw Whitaker - nervous and sweating - no way anyone should put much faith in that Jarqui Jan 2019 #8
I know! Heard guy on tv say that Whitaker doesn't even have firsthand contact... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #9
There is much more than Trump at stake here Jarqui Jan 2019 #10
I totally agree with everything you wrote. (I read that 538 article before...excellent) nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #12
Whittaker was sent out to be Roy Cohn and instead turned into Albert Brooks. Marcuse Jan 2019 #14
LOL! I remember that movie. He plays "uncomfortable" very well. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #16
Glad this is FINALLY getting some coverage: Stone's warrant also including media & devices ffr Jan 2019 #13
Maybe some details on his involvement with Miss Tweeden in... Pluvious Jan 2019 #15

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
1. Stone's known he was a target for over a year....does anyone really think he
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:46 PM
Jan 2019

didn't wipe incriminating stuff?

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
3. Stone is a blackmailing dirty trickster so he probably kept evidence to hold over other people
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:04 PM
Jan 2019

Cohen kept tapes and records proving he was not acting alone but was carrying out Trump's wishes regarding the hush money and Trump Tower Moscow, so I expect Roger Stone also hoarded material incriminating others in his shady dealings.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
11. That and I'm not sure he thought he'd ever really get caught
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:39 PM
Jan 2019

He's one of those who believes he's sooooo much smarter and he's soooo much more untouchable because he has the right friends....and the "Oooo, I'm scared I'll be indicted!" bit was mostly to get attention.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
17. Or, he was certain of a pardon.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:46 AM
Feb 2019

So, he kept all the dirty laundry on everyone that also happened to incriminate him too. He's such a waste of air.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. Yeah, I think he would've cleaned up his mess.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:46 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe he destroyed the incriminating communications, or maybe he put them in storage somewhere, even out of the country.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
2. How do you wrap this thing up quickly when you have so much
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:57 PM
Jan 2019

information from Stone to sift through before investigators can look at it (ie filtering out attorney client stuff)
then the investigators have to go through it - volumes of it - words and dollars
and then, that will generate leads they have to chase down = more time and maybe more subpoenas/warrants that could impact people like Corsi or Don Jr.

They haven't even got the transcripts from the House yet. (though they may have seen some of them)

Aren't they still arguing about that bank that took them to the Supreme Court?

Someone probably has to crawl through and chase down clues from Team of Vipers.

And they've still got the shake down of Stone or Don Jr or Corsi or others, for example, to see if they'll flip ....

What about all the sealed indictments? Will those get amended?
There are very probably more indictments to come.

Trump Allies Keep Saying Mueller Is Almost Done. Here Are the Signs He's Not
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-allies-keep-saying-mueller-183441417.html

Maybe they'd like to hit the finish line with the NY AG to help thwart pardons ...

And this whole thing is going to wrap up "soon" - like February?

I really doubt it.

I have no problem with that. Let them take their time to get it right. I just don't think this is going to end as soon as acting AG Whitaker implied.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
4. Talk of Mueller finishing soon could be just a ploy to get Dems to delay investigating/impeaching
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:11 PM
Jan 2019

Trump allies in DOJ may just be pushing the notion of Mueller's final report coming soon in order to convince Dems to hold off on starting hearings and impeachment proceedings until Mueller is through, when in reality Mueller won't be through for many more months so Dems in Congress would lose valuable time if they hold off thinking Mueller is finishing soon.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
5. I worried that it was a ploy to set public expectations that it will be over soon
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:17 PM
Jan 2019

and when it isn't they may use that false expectation setting as justification to shut it down.

And like you say, the Republicans failing to name members to the intelligence committee delays Mueller getting the House transcripts (as Rachel Maddow reported) - like they've been doing all along as Mueller should have had that testimony when it was given or not so long after.

The Republicans drag it out. The Trumpsters lie their heads off. And then they both whine about how long it's taking.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. The WH mouths say that every now & then. "It's almost concluded." "The report will be soon."
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:49 PM
Jan 2019

It's wishful thinking. But they regularly say that. Did you see the video where Whitaker says that? He was hemming & hawing and pausing and just sayin' stuff. None of it was meaningful. It's been on the political programs...how people who READ the statement are misinterpreting it.

Ghouliani said last August that the report would be coming out in September, October latest.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
8. I saw Whitaker - nervous and sweating - no way anyone should put much faith in that
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jan 2019

but undoubtedly some, including Trump, will.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. I know! Heard guy on tv say that Whitaker doesn't even have firsthand contact...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jan 2019

w/the Mueller team. It's ROSENSTEIN who supervises it, still. I think Trump wants that said to string his base along, so they'll relax, thinking there's not much longer to go. But who knows. They just lie lie lie.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
10. There is much more than Trump at stake here
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 08:30 PM
Jan 2019

The trajectory of the country could be changed forever.
Some changes to prevent this from happening again must take place.

So it is important to get this right.

No significant, large special counsel investigation has been done in less than 3 years
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mueller-is-moving-quickly-compared-to-past-special-counsel-investigations/
Mueller hits 2 years this spring

It is by far the most complex of any investigation.

They need to cool it and let these people do their jobs.

One other 2020 point: what have Trump & the Republicans done to stop this? Nothing for 2018 ...
All they've done is obstructed people from finding out what went on.
They have done next to nothing to protect the country from future attacks.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
13. Glad this is FINALLY getting some coverage: Stone's warrant also including media & devices
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jan 2019

A treasure-trove of guilt ridden documentation on top of everything else Mueller has on him. Like Cohen, Mueller is going to wipe the floor with this Nixon loving clown.

Pluvious

(4,313 posts)
15. Maybe some details on his involvement with Miss Tweeden in...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jan 2019

... their ratfucking Al Franklen will be revealed !

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