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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 09:59 AM Jan 2019

Pence Says Criticism of His Wife's Job at Anti-LGBTQ School Is 'Deeply Offensive'

Source: The Daily Beast


Vice President Mike Pence has complained that he finds the criticism of his wife’s decision to teach at an elementary school that explicitly bans LGBTQ employees and students “deeply offensive.” “My wife and I have been in the public eye for quite a while, we’re used to the criticism,” Pence said in an interview with EWTN, a network that offers “news from a Catholic perspective.” But he added that “to see major news organizations attacking Christian education is deeply offensive to us.” Karen Pence is teaching twice a week at the Immanuel Christian School in Springfield, Virginia, which forbids employees and students from “heterosexual activity outside of marriage... homosexual or lesbian sexual activity, polygamy, transgender identity, any other violation of the unique roles of male and female,” among other sexual activities. Pence added: “We have a rich tradition in America of Christian education, and frankly religious education broadly defined... We’ll let the other critics roll off our back, but this criticism of Christian education in America should stop.”

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Pence Says Criticism of His Wife's Job at Anti-LGBTQ School Is 'Deeply Offensive' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
Given his nickname for wifey, Pence truly is a "mother f**ker" Happyhippychick Jan 2019 #1
The extreme Christian right is more a threat to our nation than Russia or China. olegramps Jan 2019 #32
Please make this an OP. akraven Jan 2019 #48
This really needed to be said. Well done, olegramps. littlemissmartypants Jan 2019 #56
By wanting to deny contraceptive care to women, Chrysanthemum Jan 2019 #59
Bigotry is more offensive. Monsieur_Grumpe Jan 2019 #2
THIS!!!!!!!! Zoonart Jan 2019 #6
True. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #13
So is cherry picking Bible verses azureblue Jan 2019 #31
I don't think that the two are mutually exclusive. nt littlemissmartypants Jan 2019 #57
Shut up, Mike dumpTrump Dumptruck Jan 2019 #3
I dont think so. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #10
What is offensive is calling that school and himself Christian. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #4
As long as this school is 100% privately funded, and doesn't receive any money from... SKKY Jan 2019 #5
Most private / religious schools are tax exempt so we support them all Dorn Jan 2019 #19
Vice rigor mortis and mother are phony Christian frauds. democratisphere Jan 2019 #7
"Vice rigor mortis"...phtphtphtahahahahaha!!!!! Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #11
. democratisphere Jan 2019 #15
Oh no they are... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #42
And so are you ya religion ruining sly eye Mfer. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #8
EWTN seems a strange network to interview someone who kicked Catholicism to the curb Siwsan Jan 2019 #9
Of course. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #12
Deeply Offensive alright!! aeromanKC Jan 2019 #14
The very idea that Mike Pence is offended is offensive debsy Jan 2019 #16
The idea that Pence is "deeply" anything is ridiculous. hay rick Jan 2019 #39
indeed! debsy Jan 2019 #41
TS, there is no constitutional right to not be offended. Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #17
How Does He Talk With His Lips Glued To Sponge Blob Golf Pants' Butt? nt smb Jan 2019 #18
Evangelicals don't get that they can't anymore complain other people stink... Girard442 Jan 2019 #20
Yeah but they are the Talibangelical branch of the Evangelicals. watoos Jan 2019 #26
I find Christians that ignore the New Testament and continue to abide by the Old Testament offensive PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #21
Oh, poor Mikey! Should we strive to be inoffensive? Aristus Jan 2019 #22
Snowflake. yardwork Jan 2019 #23
He has absolutely no idea what it means to be a Christian padah513 Jan 2019 #24
Sad Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2019 #25
Your a BIGOT she's a BIGOT turbinetree Jan 2019 #27
Telling little boys and girls they don't deserve to live because they're gay is totally fine though. DRoseDARs Jan 2019 #28
Pence should be offended fuck him titaniumsalute Jan 2019 #29
Pence's bigotry is offensive Gothmog Jan 2019 #30
Let's hope society continues to deeply offend religious crackpots like the Pences stopbush Jan 2019 #33
FU a*****e! As we suspected, evil gets easily offended. Glad you're offended. Now ... KPN Jan 2019 #34
He needs to toughen-up 'cause there's more on the way. Stand by. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #35
Pence, you misspelled "deeply revealing." truthisfreedom Jan 2019 #36
no, mommy pence, what is deeply offensive is your existence. nt Javaman Jan 2019 #37
Hey Mike. Show me where Jesus said anything about homosexuals TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #38
10 commandments, sheep and goats story--NO mention of homosexuality, abortion bobbieinok Jan 2019 #53
One could argue, using the Bible, that a fetus is nothing more than tissue TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #55
To Mike and Mother: "Love your neighbor." Try it! Marcuse Jan 2019 #40
What's "offensive" is the humiliation the public has to swallow Judi Lynn Jan 2019 #43
my late mom had said to me once , that these people wanted and always wanted a non constitutional AllaN01Bear Jan 2019 #44
I find Pence, Old Lady Pence and all their supporters offensive. joanbarnes Jan 2019 #45
Blow it out your ass, Stepford Veep. Paladin Jan 2019 #46
I find voting for a "pussy-grabber" offensive. allgood33 Jan 2019 #47
If Pence is so deeply offended by criticism of his wife's job... Zorro Jan 2019 #49
Great. Glad to hear it. So, I guess Newt and Callista won't be applying for a job there. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #50
You and your sick, bigoted beliefs are what are deeply offensive. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #51
Let me say something else that you just "may" find offensive... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #52
Cry me a river sakabatou Jan 2019 #54
I hurt my foot when I kicked you in the face. NT alphafemale Jan 2019 #58
Pence, you chose a public life: area51 Jan 2019 #60
You know, if white folks fought actual racism Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #61

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
32. The extreme Christian right is more a threat to our nation than Russia or China.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jan 2019

The fundamentalists, evangelicals and a large segment of what is left of the Catholic congregations is zealously determined to impose their religious convictions on the entirety of society regardless of our constitutional guaranteed freedoms. Zealots are the most dangerous of reformers since the are convinced that their mission is divinely guided and protected from circumspection. Throughout history and what we are experiencing today by the Muslim extreme fundamentalists and within our own society are the same. They believe that their cause is so divinely directed that they are even protected from being held accountable for their vicious actions, such as imprisonment, beating and even beheading those who oppose them. Sadly they are not unique example.

Their counterparts in the our nation hold the same concepts. They totally reject any notion that they are not justified in imposing their religious beliefs on the entirety of society such as the abolishment of abortion and even the restriction of contraception based on their religious beliefs. Their formation of religious schools are little different than those of the Muslim extremists and fundamentally should be of no less of a concern. They are just as dangerous as their Muslim counterparts in that they are challenging the basic human rights of the freedom of conscience that the framers of the constitution provided in the Bill of Rights. What they are essentially pursuing is making any office in the government tacitly subject to a religious test. Those who are not in agreement with their religious dogmas are unfit for service in the government.

They are making a mockery of the principle of the separation of Church and State and challenging the law by using the pulpit for political propagandizing. This is a key concept that the founding fathers feared and sought to prevent and which had strangled descent for thousands of years throughout Europe and from which they desperately escaped. The enemy isn't at the gates it is a cancer that has taken hold of our fellow citizens who have been lead to believe that they are the real Americans and anyone who opposes them are the enemy.

Civilizations have risen and fallen throughout time. But one thing they hold in common is internal division and the loss of unity. The very basis upon which our nation was founded and imbued in the national motto adopted by our founders, E Pluribus Unum, (Out of Many One) is being torn asunder by the extreme right. The essence of this concept that "We may disagree, but I will die fighting for your right to do so" is slowing but surely being erased by those sowing descent and division.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
48. Please make this an OP.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:58 PM
Jan 2019

I quit the Catholic Church in 1972 when the local bishop railed about guys with long hair coming to Mass. I wanted to ask him just what the FUCK he thought Jesus looked like.

littlemissmartypants

(22,725 posts)
56. This really needed to be said. Well done, olegramps.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jan 2019

Please consider cross posting. In Religion and National Security groups, perhaps.

Chrysanthemum

(188 posts)
59. By wanting to deny contraceptive care to women,
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:46 PM
Jan 2019

...they are admitting that they don't have the ability to persuade others of the rightness of their beliefs. So they have to IMPOSE their beliefs on others.

azureblue

(2,149 posts)
31. So is cherry picking Bible verses
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jan 2019

to support your bigotry, while ignoring other verses. Like do not eat pork, do not eat shellfish, you can't go to church if you have a defect in your vision. etc. But no they focus one one verse they say is about gays, and ignore the rest. I direct Pence and his ilk to Matthew 25: 31- 46, wherein Christ tells them they are going to hell, in no uncertain terms.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
10. I dont think so.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:09 AM
Jan 2019

After all of this I dont think mueller will allow installation of trump2. The country needs to heal and start living their lives and not have to watch news 24/7. The alt right can go back to their caves.

SKKY

(11,816 posts)
5. As long as this school is 100% privately funded, and doesn't receive any money from...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jan 2019

...the federal government, I honestly couldn't care less. What I do find odd though is that Jesus brought his teachings to the people, and asks us, as Christians, to do the same. Evangelicals here in the US seem to go completely against that.

Dorn

(523 posts)
19. Most private / religious schools are tax exempt so we support them all
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:31 AM
Jan 2019

Regardless of whether they are bigots or not

Siwsan

(26,286 posts)
9. EWTN seems a strange network to interview someone who kicked Catholicism to the curb
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:08 AM
Jan 2019

IMHO, of course.

debsy

(530 posts)
16. The very idea that Mike Pence is offended is offensive
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jan 2019

To see "Christian" organizations and their followers complain about criticism of their first century ideals speaks to their complete lack of ability to learn and grow.

Girard442

(6,082 posts)
20. Evangelicals don't get that they can't anymore complain other people stink...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jan 2019

...all the while splashing around in the Trump cesspool.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. Yeah but they are the Talibangelical branch of the Evangelicals.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jan 2019

More commonly called the Dominionists, who believe that rich people are god's chosen and thus rich people can do no wrong. Whereas we poor people are poor because we sinned against god and he has punished us with poverty.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
21. I find Christians that ignore the New Testament and continue to abide by the Old Testament offensive
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jan 2019

just saying... Here are the two great foundational commandments: "Jesus said…Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

padah513

(2,504 posts)
24. He has absolutely no idea what it means to be a Christian
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:10 AM
Jan 2019

No Christian, (not a true one, there a lot of people out there that claim to be Christians but aren't) would condone the forceful separation of families or the locking up of children in cages, and if Mike didn't speak out against it, he condoned it. A true Christian in that position would have objected to that kind of barbarity and quit, but Mike wants to be President one day and knows that sticking with the devil currently residing at 1600 is the only way he'll get there.

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
27. Your a BIGOT she's a BIGOT
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:26 AM
Jan 2019

and to top it all off your a m***erfucking racists and enabler of treason...................

And as a added fact your f**king christian values helped in the creating of genocide of the Natives in this country ....................so as a Native you and your family can go f*** themselves and as for Catholic perspective..................maybe you should look at what your "church" has been doing to boys and girls for years, you know raping them and trying to hide that FACT ......................

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
28. Telling little boys and girls they don't deserve to live because they're gay is totally fine though.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jan 2019

Words cannot legally express what I feel should be done with you and your vile ilk. And didn't your new Pope tell you motherfuckers here in the US to knock it off with the gay-hating?

“We have a rich tradition in America of Christian education..."


Yeah, just ask the Native Americans about that.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
33. Let's hope society continues to deeply offend religious crackpots like the Pences
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jan 2019

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by criticizing the fantasy world of religion.

No mention in the media that Christian beliefs are deeply offensive to millions of Americans.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,209 posts)
38. Hey Mike. Show me where Jesus said anything about homosexuals
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019

I'll wait.

Oh yeah. He didn't!

Take your Old Testament homophobia and shove it.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
53. 10 commandments, sheep and goats story--NO mention of homosexuality, abortion
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

Yet in everyday Evangelical worldview to be a Christian you MUST be

1)anti-abortion and

2)anti-homosexuality

Interesting, no?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,209 posts)
55. One could argue, using the Bible, that a fetus is nothing more than tissue
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jan 2019

Until it draws it's first breath.

http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/the-bible-tells-us-when-a-fetus-becomes-a-living-being

"Again, to quote Ezekiel 37:5&6, “Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the Lord.”

"In Exodus 21:22 it states that if a man causes a woman to have a miscarriage, he shall be fined; however, if the woman dies then he will be put to death. It should be apparent from this that the aborted fetus is not considered a living human being since the resulting punishment for the abortion is nothing more than a fine; it is not classified by the bible as a capital offense."

Judi Lynn

(160,598 posts)
43. What's "offensive" is the humiliation the public has to swallow
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jan 2019

when Pense hangs on Trump's every word as if it has sacred meaning. Offensive insult is always there in his servility. He makes the entire country look like mindless tools.



AllaN01Bear

(18,327 posts)
44. my late mom had said to me once , that these people wanted and always wanted a non constitutional
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jan 2019

government . they stared with the local dog catcher , etc and worked their way up. they go after if you are on the forefront of change . brown. black, ie non white . they hide behind the bible and if u corner them they come out swinging . same thing that they hide behind the constitution. evrything for themselves . and as one poster said, ahh shudddup. and as i say well , whaahh.

Zorro

(15,748 posts)
49. If Pence is so deeply offended by criticism of his wife's job...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:07 PM
Jan 2019

I wonder what he'd say about this photo from the Onion...

Karen Pence Returns To Work As Part-Time Nude Art Model

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,567 posts)
50. Great. Glad to hear it. So, I guess Newt and Callista won't be applying for a job there.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:53 PM
Jan 2019

Who says there's no good news anymore?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
51. You and your sick, bigoted beliefs are what are deeply offensive.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jan 2019

You are such a disgusting, raging hypocrite.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
61. You know, if white folks fought actual racism
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jan 2019

with the same zeal they fight for their reputations after being labeled as racist, our problems would vanish overnight...

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