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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:32 PM Jan 2019

GOP Sen David Perdue: If Trump agrees to reopen government, then 'where's the leverage' ...

Source: CNBC



GOP Sen David Perdue: If Trump agrees to reopen government, then ‘where’s the leverage’ for him to get his wall?

PUBLISHED 31 MIN AGO | UPDATED MOMENTS AGO

Kevin Breuninger
@KEVINWILLIAMB

KEY POINTS

Democrats want to table the negotiations over President Trump’s border wall and end the longest-ever partial government shutdown as soon as possible.

But Republicans, such as Sen. David Perdue of Georgia, don’t want Trump to throw away what they see as his strongest bargaining chip.

If Trump agrees to reopen the government, then “where’s the leverage for the president in terms of getting them to move on the issue of the day?” Perdue asks on CNBC.


-snip-

Perdue balked when asked Wednesday on CNBC’s “Squawk Box ” about the calls from Democratic leaders, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, to reopen the government and continue separate border security talks.

“Right now, what the Democrats are saying is, ‘Well look, give us what we want and maybe we’ll come back in two or three months and talk about what you want.’ That’s not the way negotiations work in the real world,” Perdue said.

When pressed on the Democrats’ offer to reopen the government, Perdue suggested that such an agreement would undermine Trump’s efforts to pressure his opponents into funding a border wall.

“I understand that,” Perdue said. “But then, where’s the leverage for the president in terms of getting them to move on the issue of the day?”

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/gop-sen-david-perdue-if-government-reopens-trump-loses-leverage-on-the-wall.html

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GOP Sen David Perdue: If Trump agrees to reopen government, then 'where's the leverage' ... (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
The "Issue of the Day"... B Stieg Jan 2019 #1
That's funny duforsure Jan 2019 #2
exactly gopiscrap Jan 2019 #4
b-b-b-but this doesn't make sense! slumcamper Jan 2019 #13
Yeah, extortion doesn't work without "leverage" William Seger Jan 2019 #3
And the more hard working Americans they can harm or kill, the better Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #26
The Wall is only the issue of the day for the bigots. Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #5
"But then, where's the leverage" BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #6
Leverage? You are holding the country hostage? What happened to responsible government? notdarkyet Jan 2019 #7
"That's not the way negotiations work in the real world" PatSeg Jan 2019 #8
Blackmail from Trump because he doesn't have a good idea, the skills to convince the wiggs Jan 2019 #9
+1. Nicely said. yonder Jan 2019 #18
Will somebody ask him why, in two years of GOP run House and Senate, IQ45 sinkingfeeling Jan 2019 #10
Ask him why he's breaking his promise to make Mexico directly pay for the wall. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2019 #11
The real truth is this, Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #12
We are a constitutional republic with 3 equal branches of government DBoon Jan 2019 #14
One of my state's two buffoon senators RT Atlanta Jan 2019 #15
I'm sure Federal workers will be thrilled to learn they are seen as "leverage" flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #16
"...as some other administration asshat put it." yonder Jan 2019 #21
McConnell needs to get a bill passed. Any bill to reopen the shutdown parts of government. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #17
Since when was keeping people suffering, living in a non-stop nightmare a "bargaining chip?" Judi Lynn Jan 2019 #19
It is sad if this is the only leverage that the GOP has... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2019 #20
Where's the leverage you say? I think you need to resign and find another job if you're... SWBTATTReg Jan 2019 #22
In fact he has it backward. Trump is the one who is demanding what he wants - not the Democrats karynnj Jan 2019 #23
and that is it in a nutshell - power over country azureblue Jan 2019 #24
Thanks for making it perfectly clear that our friends, neighbors maxrandb Jan 2019 #25
Maybe Perdue needs a refresher course in the Constution. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #27
Two years ago. You missed it. eom Maeve Jan 2019 #28
He's holding the government hostage Rizen Jan 2019 #29
And TSA employees under his nose aren't calling in sick at Atlanta's airport? oasis Jan 2019 #30
Winning is everything ... GeorgeGist Jan 2019 #31

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. That's funny
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jan 2019

When the republicans controled everything he was also refused money for his not wanted or needed wall. The majority of the American people are against trumps wall, and as in debt as we are the money for it is just another boondoogle unless you're trump who'll skim money from others for it. That's why he wants it so bad, he'll make money from it. Its another scam.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
13. b-b-b-but this doesn't make sense!
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jan 2019

Mexico is gonna pay for that there wall! Why won't them Democrats let 'em do that?



Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
26. And the more hard working Americans they can harm or kill, the better
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jan 2019

How many of us will know someone who died in the upcoming inevitable plane crashes and food poisonings?

BumRushDaShow

(129,104 posts)
6. "But then, where's the leverage"
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

The "leverage" was the fact that the bills the House passed were to FULLY FUND everyone for the rest of the fiscal year, EXCEPT DHS, which would have a C.R. to provide more time to discuss "immigration" and "border security".

Not counting DOD, DHS is the LARGEST department.

NONE of the rest of the agencies being held hostage have any mission that deals with the security aspects of "immigration" and "the border".

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
7. Leverage? You are holding the country hostage? What happened to responsible government?
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

This is not a game.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
8. "That's not the way negotiations work in the real world"
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jan 2019

Trump's "my way or the highway" tactic is not how negotiations work in the real world. Trump does not believe in compromise and impulsively backs out of his agreements just for the hell of it. THAT is also not how negotiations work in the real world.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
9. Blackmail from Trump because he doesn't have a good idea, the skills to convince the
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jan 2019

public, talent to negotiate in good faith, valid plan, reputation as careful deep thinker with effective solutions...or public confidence that he's looking out for america.

Why can't media and dems make this point over and over? If it were a good idea...it would happen?

11. Ask him why he's breaking his promise to make Mexico directly pay for the wall.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

Don't let him tap dance around the question by babbling on how much money the U.S. will make on the super-duper trade deal he just negotiated with Mexico. The money to pay for the wall is coming right out of the taxpayers' pockets.

Also, it's estimated that $5 billion will only pay for 700 miles of wall. How is he going to blackmail the country for the remaining $10 billion? Is he going to have another shutdown?

It's all part of Putin's plan to cripple and ultimately destroy the United States without firing a shot.

I agree with those who believe Trump is an unwitting accomplice of Russia. He's not smart enough to actively collude with Putin. Blow in Trump's ear and he'll follow you anywhere.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. The real truth is this,
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jan 2019

until the Koch Brothers,Sheldon Adelson,Ricketts and other high buck Rethug Donors give the go ahead,nothing changes. The a fore mentioned people could give a rats butt about workers. Koch's got their Guy at EPA ,Adelson got his 700 million Tax Break plus a court ruling to stop on line gambling,and Ricketts got the Bank regulators looking the other way.

DBoon

(22,369 posts)
14. We are a constitutional republic with 3 equal branches of government
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jan 2019

That "leverage" belongs only in a strongman dictatorship

Under our system of government, it is the responsibility of the legislature to perform their duties as they decide, not by the fiat of the executive

If Perdue wants to live in a state ruled by an authoritarian dictator, I suggest an extended vacation in Moscow

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
15. One of my state's two buffoon senators
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jan 2019

This guy is such a tool and never responds to any writings when I send to him, except with canned replies. He truly doesnt care and will not feel any ill effects from the shutdown.

Perdue is a 'successful businessman' with lotsa money and was elected to Saxby "I like to golf more than represent" Chambliss's former seat.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
16. I'm sure Federal workers will be thrilled to learn they are seen as "leverage"
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:21 PM
Jan 2019

Well, this is what the MAGAt's voted for. Enjoy your "free vacation" as some other administration asshat put it.

yonder

(9,667 posts)
21. "...as some other administration asshat put it."
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jan 2019

That asshat would be smirky-mouthed, all's-well-in-my-world, point-toed trump tool Kevin Hasset. I about broke the damn TV the other day after seeing his snaggletoothed, grinning mug offering that free vacation BS.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
17. McConnell needs to get a bill passed. Any bill to reopen the shutdown parts of government.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jan 2019

Once that is done, if he won't bring up the bill that the Senate passed unanimously a month ago, reconciliation can begin. This is all on McConnell and the Senate, not the Democratic led House. Any comment from Dipshit should be met with "The House has passed a bill, go talk to McConnell."

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
19. Since when was keeping people suffering, living in a non-stop nightmare a "bargaining chip?"
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

Forced labor, watching their loved ones face starvation unless they turn to crime, like a Republican? Is that a bargaining chip? "Issue of the Day."

What a filthy phony, old Perdue is.



Perdue quite imagines he's a real looker, just like our finest pResident ever.



SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
22. Where's the leverage you say? I think you need to resign and find another job if you're...
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jan 2019

having problems processing reopening the government and tying it to rump closing down the government because of a hissy fit/temper tantrum.

There are other things that republicans may want, in exchange (besides a stupid wall). Americans do want help on prescription drugs, health issues, immigration (our farmers are suffering via lack of workers to pick crops), as well as many other issues that you could take / give in exchange...it's called negotiation.

Ignore rump being that he has no negotiation skills what so ever.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
23. In fact he has it backward. Trump is the one who is demanding what he wants - not the Democrats
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:14 PM
Jan 2019

Negotiations could continue with the government either open or closed. Trump is holding many government jobs hostage and where Perdue is correct it is because he needs that to pressure people to fund his wall.

This admits that there is NOT support through a normal legislative process to build the wall as he demands.

The problem with giving in is that we then would have a series of similar hostage taking - when we need to raise the debt ceiling (earlier than we would have had to before the Republicans tax legislation), and with actually passing funding for the government.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
24. and that is it in a nutshell - power over country
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:17 PM
Jan 2019

Purdue makes it plain - the GOP would rather wreck the country than give up power.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
25. Thanks for making it perfectly clear that our friends, neighbors
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jan 2019

and those serving our country are just "leverage"

You Retrumplicans are who we thought you are

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
27. Maybe Perdue needs a refresher course in the Constution.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 03:07 PM
Jan 2019

Article I -- Legislative Branch - they create the laws.
Article II -- Executive Branch - they carry out the laws.
Article III -- Judicial Branch - they interpret the laws.

Rizen

(709 posts)
29. He's holding the government hostage
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jan 2019

And what happened to "Mexico paying for the wall"? How can idiot Republicans support this liar?

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