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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:22 AM Jan 2019

Trump Claims 'Much of the Wall Has Already Been' Built and 'Mexico is Paying For' It

Source: Mediaite


by Ken Meyer | Jan 2nd, 2019, 8:59 am

As President Trump prepares to meet with congressional leaders to negotiate the possible end of the government shutdown, he’s claiming once again that the wall’s construction is already underway with Mexico footing the bill.




So, let’s see. Mexico is supposedly paying for the wall with an updated NAFTA deal that will presumably stimulate U.S. economic activity enough to offset the wall’s cost through tax revenue. Even if this federal revenue increase does happen as Trump claims, the actual end result here is American taxpayers will supply the money for the wall, not Mexico.

There’s also something to be said about Trump claiming the wall is already being built when last year’s congressional budget for border security didn’t provide any money for a wall. Furthermore, if “much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built,” was it worth it for Trump to shut down the government because Democrats refuse to give him the $5 billion he’s demanding for the wall and other security measures?

So many questions, so little time.

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Trump Claims 'Much of the Wall Has Already Been' Built and 'Mexico is Paying For' It (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
he's tweeting lies barbtries Jan 2019 #1
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #2
Wall will cost much more than $5B Owl Jan 2019 #3
Dear Donny: Please show us your math on this claim and rurallib Jan 2019 #4
Dear Donny: Show us this already existing wall (nt) apnu Jan 2019 #23
Great. I guess we can move on to something else. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #5
Maybe that's the solution to the stupid wall. watoos Jan 2019 #6
and chocolate rations are going up to 30gms too!!! - n/t Locrian Jan 2019 #7
Bullshit rations are up! torius Jan 2019 #29
Hey asshole.....................do you have receipts that have been notarized turbinetree Jan 2019 #8
Hey Trump.. agingdem Jan 2019 #9
As long as his base Andy823 Jan 2019 #10
Same as the '60s and '70s. Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #11
Then there is no need for taxpayer money. It's going so well. Keep it up, Donald. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #12
OK then...so why do we need to put up 5B???? sdfernando Jan 2019 #13
That was my thought as well oberliner Jan 2019 #24
+1 forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #26
I would hope so sdfernando Jan 2019 #30
He's already creating an alternative wall universe packman Jan 2019 #14
He's trying to grab Schroedinger's cat. forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #28
He's telegraphing what we always knew would be his end-game move -- if he gets a single penny RockRaven Jan 2019 #15
Well then...if much of the wall has been built...and Mexico is paying for it Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #16
Well, NO ... GeorgeGist Jan 2019 #17
Why don't we make the Kochs, Waltons, or Jeff Bezos pay for it? Initech Jan 2019 #18
I want video footage of a drone flying the length of the wall. -nt CrispyQ Jan 2019 #19
... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #20
if Mexico is/has been paying, then WHAT IN THE FUCKING HELL is dotard doing holding govt hostage? niyad Jan 2019 #21
Yeah,and the Space Force has just finished building a settlement on Mars and.... AKing Jan 2019 #22
Jaw-droppingly amazing what Trump can convince DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #25
Could someone slip him a photoshopped video showing the "completed" wall across the whole karynnj Jan 2019 #27
c'mon MSM do your jobs and go to the wall.... IcyPeas Jan 2019 #31

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
1. he's tweeting lies
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jan 2019

so he can wiggle out of the shutdown. so weak, so transparent, so horrifically damaged.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. Maybe that's the solution to the stupid wall.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jan 2019

Trump can just hold a press conference and proclaim the wall is finished, the complicit M$M can back him up, and his base will blindly cheer.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
8. Hey asshole.....................do you have receipts that have been notarized
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jan 2019

with three signatures .................and just for giggles on your bull shit....................do it front of the media........ .......lets remind everyone on what happened on December 11, 2018................when you had cameras.....................you were taken to the cleaners......................literally.................... .................... and your side kick of deceit and deception sitting like an empty suit well....................well he is a dangerous empty suit..........................






November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough......................

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
10. As long as his base
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jan 2019

Buys into his lies, that's all the matters to him. He can lie all he wants and his "cult" followers will believe him.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
11. Same as the '60s and '70s.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jan 2019

It's what cowardly businesspeople do when defeated.

"Declare victory and withdraw"

Which some say is the same tactic Trump has used for years to describe his own 5-second sexual performance.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
12. Then there is no need for taxpayer money. It's going so well. Keep it up, Donald.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jan 2019

Then there is no need for taxpayer money. It's going so well. Keep it up, Donald.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
14. He's already creating an alternative wall universe
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jan 2019

See- The wall is already there and I did it and Mexico paid for it. Problem solved and I did it without the help of any Democrat.

What a mind (and I use the term loosely).


forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
28. He's trying to grab Schroedinger's cat.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 02:48 PM
Jan 2019

Setting up multiple scenarios depending on which outcome is most favorable.

The wall is nearly done/We need to build the wall
The wall will be paid for by Mexico/We need to fund the wall/Mexico is already paying for the wall via my shrewd dealmakin'
We're already building the wall/Child deaths are Democrats fault because I can't build a wall.
Immigrants are pouring in due to lack of funding/I will shut down the border (sans Wall) so nobody can get through (???)

Fucking Choose-Your-Own-Adventure president.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
15. He's telegraphing what we always knew would be his end-game move -- if he gets a single penny
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:59 PM
Jan 2019

of new money, he's going to a) claim an absolute and total victory, and b) claim the wall is done.

Like he did with North Korea.
Like he did with ACA repeal.
Like he did with NAFTA.

The pattern will hold. He will get crumbs (less than he could have gotten by not being a hostage-taker, btw) and he'll pretend the issue is forever resolved.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
16. Well then...if much of the wall has been built...and Mexico is paying for it
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jan 2019

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ASKING FOR ONE MORE CENT YOU LYING SACK OF SHIT!!!


Ugh...it's amazing that we're having to put up with this nonsense!! It's even more incredible that his party is fully behind this bullshit!

Initech

(100,081 posts)
18. Why don't we make the Kochs, Waltons, or Jeff Bezos pay for it?
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jan 2019

They would make that money back in half a second. And since they bought this presidency, they would own it. That makes more sense than anything Chump is tweeting about right now.

AKing

(511 posts)
22. Yeah,and the Space Force has just finished building a settlement on Mars and....
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jan 2019

Saturn is going to pay for it!

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
27. Could someone slip him a photoshopped video showing the "completed" wall across the whole
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 02:47 PM
Jan 2019

border? Tell him it is done already - so no need for more money to build it, just for border security needed even though it "is" there. Tell him it was a big accomplishment - a fantastic deal at the price - and he won. Now OPEN the government with a clean CR.

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