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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 09:03 AM Jan 2019

'All necessary means': Xi Jinping reserves right to use force against Taiwan

Source: The Guardian

Chinese leader calls for reunification and says independence would be a ‘disaster’

Taiwan’s unification with China is “inevitable”, President Xi Jinping said on Wednesday, warning against any efforts to promote the island’s independence and saying Beijing would not renounce the option of using military force to bring it into the fold.

Speaking at Beijing’s Great Hall of the People on the 40th anniversary of a key Taiwan policy statement, Xi said reunification must come under a one-China principle that accepts Taiwan as part of China, anathema to supporters of Taiwan independence.

All people in Taiwan must “clearly recognise that Taiwan independence would only bring profound disaster to Taiwan”, Xi said.

“We are willing to create broad space for peaceful reunification, but will leave no room for any form of separatist activities,” he said.

“We make no promise to renounce the use of force and reserve the option of taking all necessary means,” he said, adding that the issue is China’s internal affair and that it would permit “no external interferenc




Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/02/all-necessary-means-xi-jinping-reserves-right-to-use-force-against-taiwan



Hey Xi, how did that reunification thingy go with Hong Kong, you really are full of shit, in fact your fucking communist dictator, if you have looked lately, and better yet, you and your state of Communism, thinks that independent unions should be quashed right along with the Tibet's religion.

So the only thing I would worry about is your expansionist bull shit........... and hegemony................

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'All necessary means': Xi Jinping reserves right to use force against Taiwan (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2019 OP
With Trump as president, this would be the perfect time for China to make a move on Taiwan and Nitram Jan 2019 #1
With the current American mis-admnistration, this concerns me. pangaia Jan 2019 #2
Just in your highlight everyone can read the communist propaganda bullshit, turbinetree Jan 2019 #4
I am not sure what you mean about the highlight... pangaia Jan 2019 #5
On my screen I see the highlight bar around the section you wanted to have emphasis , looks turbinetree Jan 2019 #6
Yes, I know but what is wrong with my quoting the article and then pangaia Jan 2019 #7
Nothing, I support your stance....................I did not mean to come across that way turbinetree Jan 2019 #8
h. OK.. My midtskre... pangaia Jan 2019 #9
Hey lets have a turbinetree Jan 2019 #10
works for me pangaia Jan 2019 #19
I been to Taiwan. nycbos Jan 2019 #3
Yes, but there is a real split between those who want a totally separate country pangaia Jan 2019 #20
No doubt. nycbos Jan 2019 #21
So Xi has something on Trump or Ivanka edhopper Jan 2019 #11
trump will do nothing. He so busy tweeting about his wall he probably... brush Jan 2019 #13
As long as trump is still fighting for his christx30 Jan 2019 #15
Yup nycbos Jan 2019 #22
If the Chinese really want Taiwan, there isn't much we can do about it. Calista241 Jan 2019 #12
Nor would we, with our vacuum of leadership right now. We're without a functioning gov't. ffr Jan 2019 #14
Taiwan can win a war with the PRC. MicaelS Jan 2019 #25
You are dead wrong about that Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #26
China could bomb the hell out of Taiwan DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 2019 #27
China will do what China wants, but they have patience elmac Jan 2019 #16
I'd say you have that backwards, the Chinese economy relies on the US to buy their crap. EX500rider Jan 2019 #30
Both China and Taiwan agree there is only one China. Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #17
I remember the maps in geography class in the sixties. The PRC didn't exist. Marcuse Jan 2019 #18
The PRC was 'founded' October 1, 1949. pangaia Jan 2019 #23
Not recognized in US textbooks. The ROC also had the China seats in the UN/ Security Council. Marcuse Jan 2019 #24
No better time than the present, with Trump as president Hekate Jan 2019 #28
Taiwan wasn't a part of China originally Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #29

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
1. With Trump as president, this would be the perfect time for China to make a move on Taiwan and
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jan 2019

Russia to make a move on Ukraine.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. With the current American mis-admnistration, this concerns me.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jan 2019
"“After peaceful reunification, Taiwan will have lasting peace and the people will enjoy good and prosperous lives. With the great motherland’s support, Taiwan compatriots’ welfare will be even better, their development space will be even greater,” Xi said."


Hey, asshole, Taiwanese already have peace and good and prosperous lives. And their 'development' seems to be going just fine, thank you. So fuck off.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
4. Just in your highlight everyone can read the communist propaganda bullshit,
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 10:53 AM
Jan 2019

"welfare will be even better", their development space will be even greater,” Xi said.".

If I remember correctly the poor out in the rural arras are getting fucked over big time.................they want communal burials for starters...................

https://www.economist.com/china/2018/09/27/officials-in-china-use-strong-arm-tactics-to-curb-burials


https://qz.com/1138395/low-end-population-what-you-need-to-know-about-chinas-crackdown-on-migrant-workers/

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
6. On my screen I see the highlight bar around the section you wanted to have emphasis , looks
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jan 2019

light blue sort of........................

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
10. Hey lets have a
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:14 AM
Jan 2019


I have a funny feeling that we are going to need a lot of them this year........................

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. Yes, but there is a real split between those who want a totally separate country
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:15 PM
Jan 2019

and those who want 'China lite." So to speak.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
21. No doubt.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jan 2019

But they enjoy their free elections.

I doubt they will accept Xi's "social credit" system..

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
11. So Xi has something on Trump or Ivanka
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:15 AM
Jan 2019

or both.

Obviously feels he can do this without repercussions from the U.S.

brush

(53,787 posts)
13. trump will do nothing. He so busy tweeting about his wall he probably...
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jan 2019

doesn't even know about Xi's statement.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
15. As long as trump is still fighting for his
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:45 PM
Jan 2019

stupid-assed wall, the rest of the world can burn, for all he cares.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
12. If the Chinese really want Taiwan, there isn't much we can do about it.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jan 2019

They can invade and conquer the island in a long weekend, and it would take us several weeks to just get naval assets in place. The Taiwanese military can put up a fight, and perhaps kill some Chinese soldiers, but they can't contest the strategic certainty that China will win the engagement. By that time the shooting is already over, and they'll have an interim government in place swearing that everything is all hunky dory.

Hong Kong wasn't a nation state itself. It was a pseudo-independent colony of the UK, and the UK had a treaty obligation to turn the island over to China.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
14. Nor would we, with our vacuum of leadership right now. We're without a functioning gov't.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

It's run by a mob and McConnell is complicit to protect it at all costs.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
26. You are dead wrong about that
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jan 2019

Taiwan has more than two million soldiers in reserve, well equipped with modern weapons, aircraft, missiles, ships, armor, and artillery. Taiwan has mandatory military service for all males, which means almost the entire population knows how to fight.

China, on the other hand, has significant shortages in attack helicopters, drones, and amphibious landing craft, which makes an amphibious landing very difficult to achieve.

In 10 or 15 years, China may be able to successfully invade Taiwan, but it would be an unbelievably, bloody, protracted campaign with no guarantee of success.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
27. China could bomb the hell out of Taiwan
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:25 PM
Jan 2019

But that's about it. The chinese military lacks the capability to land any significant number of troops on Taiwan, let alone on a contested beachhead. China lacks force projection capabilities, their military is largely untested, and their military leadership, from the company level on up, is full of incompetent officers who earned their positions through nepotism and bribery/political means instead of merit.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
16. China will do what China wants, but they have patience
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jan 2019

I don't see them going to war any time soon, they could crush Taiwan in other ways just like they could crush the US without even firing a shot. Our economy wholly depends on China, all the smart this and smart that are made in China, they could shut it all down in a heartbeat and they would last a hell of a lot longer then us in a commerce war. Not taking their side, just pointing out the fact that decades of losing jobs to them, decades of them buying our debt, decades of their cheap imports have given them the upper hand.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
30. I'd say you have that backwards, the Chinese economy relies on the US to buy their crap.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 07:48 PM
Jan 2019

US imports from China $506 billion
China imports from US $130 billion

Their economy would be ruined without us, but we can do without their crap for awhile till we find other suppliers to take their place.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
17. Both China and Taiwan agree there is only one China.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

The only disagreement is which government should be the only government.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
28. No better time than the present, with Trump as president
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 01:01 AM
Jan 2019
By the time the mad king leaves office, Uncle Sam's word will be worthless.
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