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RAB910

(3,501 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:10 PM Dec 2018

RUSSIA PICKED DONALD TRUMP AND RAN HIM FOR PRESIDENT, FORMER ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE OFFICER SAYS

Source: Newsweek

Russia chose Donald Trump as the U.S. presidential candidate who would be most advantageous to Moscow, and used online tactics to win him the presidency, according to a former agent of the Israeli intelligence agency the Mossad.

"Officials in Moscow looked at the 2016 U.S. presidential race and asked, ‘Which candidate would we like to have sitting in the White House? Who will help us achieve our goals?’ And they chose him. From that moment, they deployed a system [of bots] for the length of the elections, and ran him for president,” former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo told the audience at the Marker’s digital conference in Israel on Monday, where experts gathered to discuss online disinformation campaigns and bots.

“What we’ve seen so far with respect to bots and the distortion of information is just the tip of the iceberg. It is the greatest threat of recent years, and it threatens the basic values that we share—democracy and the world order created since World War Two,” Pardo noted, according to Haaretz.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-picked-donald-trump-and-ran-him-president-former-israeli-intelligence-1273009

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RUSSIA PICKED DONALD TRUMP AND RAN HIM FOR PRESIDENT, FORMER ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE OFFICER SAYS (Original Post) RAB910 Dec 2018 OP
Yes, we know. Bibi knew too. nt SunSeeker Dec 2018 #1
Knew, approved, and joined the effort. sandensea Dec 2018 #4
Ditto! BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #16
Shouldn't that be retitled with: "...Intelligence Chief"? DemocracyMouse Dec 2018 #25
Donnie is having a really, really bad news day. salin Dec 2018 #2
Not nearly as bad a news day as he deserves. calimary Dec 2018 #8
True. salin Dec 2018 #11
"... former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo told the audience at the Marker's digital conference ..." Jim__ Dec 2018 #3
Former Head BBG Dec 2018 #5
If the (former head of) Mossad said ANYTHING Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #36
While dirtbag Donnie... SergeStorms Dec 2018 #40
That moment was the final clincher for me. The added insult of the Enoki33 Dec 2018 #44
Just thinking about what this reveals about much of the US electorate... Loubee Dec 2018 #6
Deplorables. Hillary called it right. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2018 #9
Remember, the voters did not elect Trump. It was the electoral college onit2day Dec 2018 #12
Absolutely.... and the margin in the 3 states that that tipped it was 77,744 votes groundloop Dec 2018 #20
True, but without the treasonous Trump voters... nt Progressive Jones Dec 2018 #22
I think it shows a vulnerable US electorate as their voice was stolen by Russia Baltimike Dec 2018 #49
This is news? SHRED Dec 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a Dec 2018 #14
I think it's newsworthy that this has been confirmed by a former agent of Israeli intelligence flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #15
Puppetmaster Vladimir said it in Helsinki Live on TV Lock him up. Dec 2018 #10
They rigged the primary and then they rigged the general election. Truth will out. nt Baltimike Dec 2018 #13
Of course. Anyone surprised? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2018 #17
Buyers remorse? ucrdem Dec 2018 #18
The last sentence is infuriating karin_sj Dec 2018 #19
+ 1 red dog 1 Dec 2018 #24
Well, Pardo sure knows what he is talking about. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2018 #21
Of course russia did.. and there were plenty Cha Dec 2018 #23
We have to accept one third of America will gladly choose putin over democrats. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #28
Thankfully it's Not the majority. Cha Dec 2018 #29
I know, but it so infuriates me there is this many. ALL Of them are the Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #31
Not shocking TimeToGo Dec 2018 #26
I wonder if Tamir Pardo is related to Don Pardo, the legendary radio & TV announcer red dog 1 Dec 2018 #27
Gee, are people beginning to catch up with Seth Abramson? Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #30
+10000! dewsgirl Dec 2018 #52
There has never been any doubt in my mind NotAPuppet Dec 2018 #32
Welcome to DU, NotAPuppet! calimary Dec 2018 #55
Russian agents in US were behind Citizens United, too. McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #33
Allowing elections to be bought. Chemisse Dec 2018 #34
Can you post that link again, please. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #38
No shit. dchill Dec 2018 #35
+1 Hugin Dec 2018 #37
The story is misleading. It puts interference as too recent. bitterross Dec 2018 #39
Good point roscoeroscoe Dec 2018 #42
This goes way, way back... Raster Dec 2018 #46
...and republicans submissively colluded to let it happen Achilleaze Dec 2018 #41
"to the everlasting shame of the republican party" FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #43
The Pope is Catholic. :) nt Baltimike Dec 2018 #45
k&R BlueJac Dec 2018 #47
we are at war, whether we like it or not, and they've committed treason. nt Baltimike Dec 2018 #48
Exactly delisen Dec 2018 #51
This is just shocking. (not) olddad56 Dec 2018 #50
Gas was near $2 today in NE Florida! at140 Dec 2018 #53
And btw, Welcome to DU, RAB910! calimary Dec 2018 #54

salin

(48,955 posts)
2. Donnie is having a really, really bad news day.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:25 PM
Dec 2018

Probably assumed he would get rave reviews from his trip to see troops, but gets roasted by several Fox hosts for disrespect - and invited to remove all us troops in Iraq due to Donnie's disrespecting the host country and it's leader. And it keeps going down hill with each passing hour.

Am guessing he has lost or will lose a small percentage of his base across this week. Enough big jolts to open some eyes of those who were already growing increasingly uncomfortable with him.

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
3. "... former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo told the audience at the Marker's digital conference ..."
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:29 PM
Dec 2018

Does Mossad chief mean the head of Israeli intelligence? I would think that the word of the head of intelligence carries more weight than just an intelligence officer.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
36. If the (former head of) Mossad said ANYTHING
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:45 AM
Dec 2018

It is interesting, because usually you need a crowbar to pry information out of these people.

The Mossad is very very good at what they do. And, they do NOT like to tip their hands even when the intel is out there. So, if this man is talking, people need to listen.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
40. While dirtbag Donnie...
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:08 AM
Dec 2018

shares Israeli intelligence info with his best friends, the Russians, in a closed door meeting in the Oval Office attended by two Russians and Trump. That is never, ever done by real Presidents of the United States. He could have given them our nuclear launch codes for all we know! Gee, I wonder why dirtbag Donnie never wants any other Americans in the room with him when he converses with his best buds, the Russians? Seems sort of fishy to me.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
44. That moment was the final clincher for me. The added insult of the
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:27 PM
Dec 2018

Russians mocking our journalists publicly on property owned by the American people has never been far from me. Especially whenever l see the image of the traitor they bought and paid for.

Loubee

(165 posts)
6. Just thinking about what this reveals about much of the US electorate...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 05:40 PM
Dec 2018

makes me sick to my stomach (a feeling I've had most of the last 3 years).

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
20. Absolutely.... and the margin in the 3 states that that tipped it was 77,744 votes
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:58 PM
Dec 2018

Hillary, as we all know, won the election by over 3 MILLION votes. Yet a razor thin margin of 77,744 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania tipped the electoral college for Tiny. Between Russian meddling, repub voter suppression tactics, and Comey's last minute fake revelation we got fucked.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
49. I think it shows a vulnerable US electorate as their voice was stolen by Russia
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 06:56 PM
Dec 2018

in coordination with the kGOPb.

The will of the people was not followed.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
15. I think it's newsworthy that this has been confirmed by a former agent of Israeli intelligence
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:31 PM
Dec 2018

of course most of us already know this happened. The confirmations are important.

What I want to know is, why did this intelligence officer not speak publicly until now?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. Buyers remorse?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:50 PM
Dec 2018

Seems a lot of folks thought they owned the last election after spending considerable sums buying it.

karin_sj

(810 posts)
19. The last sentence is infuriating
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

"It is unclear, however, whether these efforts succeeded in swaying voters."

It's just ridiculous when reporters, pundits, and others keep saying, "We don't know if this affected the outcome of the election." OF COURSE IT DID!! And the Russians were probably able to hack into the software as well.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
23. Of course russia did.. and there were plenty
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:18 PM
Dec 2018

of enabling suckers to help the asshole get rigged in.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
28. We have to accept one third of America will gladly choose putin over democrats.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:34 PM
Dec 2018

To the point if putin says we have to all be deported, imprisoned, shot, etc...

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
31. I know, but it so infuriates me there is this many. ALL Of them are the
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:40 PM
Dec 2018

personal responsibility crowd, too. Proving that is the LAST thing they actually do or really care about.

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
27. I wonder if Tamir Pardo is related to Don Pardo, the legendary radio & TV announcer
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:33 PM
Dec 2018

who was the announcer for NBC's "Saturday Night Live," a job he held for 39 seasons.

(Just wondering)

NotAPuppet

(326 posts)
32. There has never been any doubt in my mind
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:43 PM
Dec 2018

that Putin installed Trump, and I’m not afraid to say that I don’t believe that 77K legitimate votes decided the 2016 election.

Republicans and even some Democrats like to point out that HRC was “a bad candidate” who ran a “bad campaign”, and that’s why we lost. Nobody wants to remember the fact that Trump beat Huckabee, Fiorina, Kasich, Carson, Cruz, Paul, Santorum, Christie, and Rubio before he “won” the 2016 election. So, they were ALL bad candidates?

This makes absolutely no sense, and the only logical explanation is that Putin chose and installed Trump. I really hope that we will live long enough to find out what really happened in 2016.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
55. Welcome to DU, NotAPuppet!
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 05:37 PM
Dec 2018

I've felt this, too. All along. Putin found himself a REALLY useful idiot. But one other thing here is false. Hillary was NOT a "bad candidate." AND we DIDN'T lose. Anybody who gets three million more votes than the opponent did - HAS won, AND IMO has won legitimate bragging rights on the popular vote.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
39. The story is misleading. It puts interference as too recent.
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:52 AM
Dec 2018

This story is planted by people who want to change the narrative. It clearly tries to make it look like Putin/Russia only decided to interfere with the US government and elections at a RECENT time. It seeks to quell the fact Trump has been the unwitting or witting tool of Russia for far, far longer. To dispel the notion Putin plays the long-game.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
41. ...and republicans submissively colluded to let it happen
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 05:20 AM
Dec 2018

to the everlasting shame of the republican party

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
43. "to the everlasting shame of the republican party"
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:12 PM
Dec 2018

They have no shame.

They just blame someone else.

Since they don't care about objective reality, that's all they need.

I say this because, we keep hoping they'll have a come-to-reality moment. But I don't think they ever will.

at140

(6,110 posts)
53. Gas was near $2 today in NE Florida!
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 09:48 PM
Dec 2018

Why is USA producing so much oil and depressing the price of oil?
I thought Russia likes higher oil prices?

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