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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:07 AM Dec 2018

GIULIANI CALLS FOR MUELLER TO BE INVESTIGATED FOR DESTRUCTION OF FBI EVIDENCE

Source: The HILL

Rudy Giuliani has an unmistakable New Year’s message for special counsel Robert Mueller: It is time for the chief investigator in the Russia case to be investigated in 2019.

In wide-ranging interviews with Hill.TV’s Buck Sexton and me on Wednesday and Thursday, President Trump’s defense lawyer pointedly accused Mueller’s office of destroying evidence by allowing text messages from now-fired FBI official Peter Strzok and his FBI lover, Lisa Page, to be erased in the Russia probe.

“Mueller should be investigated for destruction of evidence for allowing those text messages from Strzok to be erased, messages that would show the state of mind and tactics of his lead anti-Trump FBI agent at the start of his probe,” Giuliani said.

The Justice Department inspector general reported this month that it found large gaps in the preservation of official government text messages between Strzok and Page, the two top FBI agents who helped to start the Russia probe in 2016, who were having an affair at the time, and who expressed disdain for Trump.

Read more: https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/422963-giuliani-calls-for-mueller-to-be-investigated-for-destruction-of-fbi-evidence?userid=216387



Bullshitters are as bullshitters do.

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GIULIANI CALLS FOR MUELLER TO BE INVESTIGATED FOR DESTRUCTION OF FBI EVIDENCE (Original Post) laserhaas Dec 2018 OP
They found them all on a backups. AJT Dec 2018 #1
Seriously? uppityperson Dec 2018 #2
a direct quote from the link below: niyad Dec 2018 #29
Maybe some helpful info... Deuce Dec 2018 #9
Not exactly. onenote Dec 2018 #11
It is amazing what they try to make out of absolutely Glimmer of Hope Dec 2018 #31
Yeah, let's not let FACTS get in the way... AZ8theist Dec 2018 #33
Mueller didn't do it, it was bad software and the texts have been recovered Maeve Dec 2018 #3
Not exactly. onenote Dec 2018 #12
Ok, so he's flailing around with nothing to go on but suspicion Maeve Dec 2018 #19
True onenote Dec 2018 #24
Rootin' tootin' Rudy Scarsdale Dec 2018 #4
Rudy Giuliani, Quick look over there. Pay no attention to the treason, collusion, grifting, ... Botany Dec 2018 #5
So says 'cyber expert' Rudi G.---what a joke. He insults the whole profession and I'm insulted... SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #6
They hate Strzok because UpInArms Dec 2018 #7
And Putin hates Strzok because Strzok busted the illegals. (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #10
They hate Strzok because his career was investigating Russians and getting them.... Pachamama Dec 2018 #18
Lol. I'd say: Bring it on! ananda Dec 2018 #8
Is this what they call grasping for straws? Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #13
Its what I call PatSeg Dec 2018 #25
Can somebody PLEASE........... MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #14
Still trying to be Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #15
You mean... Cracklin Charlie Dec 2018 #16
Dear Rudder.................... turbinetree Dec 2018 #17
It's deflection. It's a Benghazi tactic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #20
Oh FFS Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #21
There is this aspect: AJT Dec 2018 #22
One point of clarification onenote Dec 2018 #26
Which begs the question, what evidence has Giuliani intentionally had destroyed? Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #23
it seems like ghouliani does this every few weeks... Javaman Dec 2018 #27
Buck Sexton?!? C League talk radio host and Rush Limbaugh fill-in? underpants Dec 2018 #28
Why does anyone talk to this guy? paleotn Dec 2018 #30
Don't they have the transcripts? Renew Deal Dec 2018 #32

niyad

(113,323 posts)
29. a direct quote from the link below:
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:30 PM
Dec 2018

But it did not attribute the missing texts to malicious intent on behalf of the two but rather a technology failure by the FBI’s tool meant to sweep up text messages, according to a new report.

onenote

(42,704 posts)
11. Not exactly.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:36 AM
Dec 2018

19,000 emails from the period December 15, 2016 through May 17, 2017 were recovered. That period predates the appointment of Mueller as special counsel and the assignment of Strzok and Page to the investigation. Texts from the phones they used after being assigned to the special counsel's office were not recovered because those phones were wiped clean (and in one case reassigned to a different person) between the time Page and Strzok left the Special Counsel's office and the time the Inspector General requested that those phones be provided for inspection. One of the phones, I believe it was Strzok's, was inspected by DOJ personnel before it was wiped and nothing of substantive significance was found.

All of this is spelled out in the report:https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/i-2018-003523.pdf

AZ8theist

(5,470 posts)
33. Yeah, let's not let FACTS get in the way...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:49 PM
Dec 2018

of TREASON, Rudy..

BTW, Rudolph....
Maybe you're a little buggy because you knew of something, something ...BEFORE the election???

Perhaps you COMMITTED A CRIME AS WELL?????????????????????????

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
3. Mueller didn't do it, it was bad software and the texts have been recovered
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:11 AM
Dec 2018

Other than that, Rudy...

The stupid, it hurts...

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
19. Ok, so he's flailing around with nothing to go on but suspicion
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:02 PM
Dec 2018

and he's still on about the dossier and repeating discredited lies. You'd think he'd get dizzy with all the spin.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
5. Rudy Giuliani, Quick look over there. Pay no attention to the treason, collusion, grifting, ...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:15 AM
Dec 2018

... and obstruction of justice. Because after all the real crime is two FBI agents on their own
time thought that Trump is screw up and crook.

“Mueller should be investigated for destruction of evidence for allowing those text messages from Strzok to be erased, messages that would show the state of mind and tactics of his lead anti-Trump FBI agent at the start of his probe,” Giuliani said.

No, Rudy the FBI probes were started after Carter Page, Cohen, Flynn, Trump, and others reached out to
the Russians for help in rigging our elections and to help pay for the republicans running for elections too.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
6. So says 'cyber expert' Rudi G.---what a joke. He insults the whole profession and I'm insulted...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:18 AM
Dec 2018

that he considers himself a cyber expert.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
25. Its what I call
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:44 PM
Dec 2018

poking the hornet's nest. You have to be a major fool to keep antagonizing Robert Mueller who undoubtedly knows everything, including any dirt on Rudy.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
17. Dear Rudder....................
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018

how about the 400 million that your "guy and his family defrauded"................lets see his tax returns for New York, to clear this up shall we.......................

AJT

(5,240 posts)
22. There is this aspect:
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:08 PM
Dec 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/18/trumps-latest-cell-phone-related-conspiracy-theory-explained

The gap in the FBI’s collection of messages, which affected 10 percent of phones, lasted from December 2016 to May 2017.

n the middle of 2017, both got new S7s. When each joined the special counsel’s team, they were also given those iPhones.

Now, notice a key point here: There were not going to be any messages on the iPhones related to the start of the Russia investigation because they didn’t get the phones until well after Mueller had been appointed! Unless Strzok and Page decided a year after the investigation began in July 2016 to start reminiscing over text about their theoretical plot to take down Trump, any messages on those phones wouldn’t have revealed anything about its genesis.


onenote

(42,704 posts)
26. One point of clarification
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:50 PM
Dec 2018

Mueller was appointed special counsel in May 2017. The texts that remain unrecovered are those from the brief period in mid 2017 when page and Strzok were assigned to the investigation. Strzok’s phone was reviewed before it was wiped and nothing of consequence found. Page’s phone was not reviewed but any texts between her and Strzok should have been reviewed when Strzok’s phone was reviewed.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
23. Which begs the question, what evidence has Giuliani intentionally had destroyed?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:20 PM
Dec 2018

That's how that pack operates. You can tell what they've been up to from what they accuse others of doing.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
27. it seems like ghouliani does this every few weeks...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:30 PM
Dec 2018

goes off on a wild tangent with bullshit for evidence.

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
30. Why does anyone talk to this guy?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:30 PM
Dec 2018

He's just going to spout bullshit and everyone knows it. I'm sorry, but bullshit isn't a different "side" worth covering. It's something you scrape off your shoes.

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