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demmiblue

(36,898 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 07:45 AM Dec 2018

Putin Backs Trump's Decision To Pull Troops Out Of Syria, Says "Donald Is right"

Source: Newsweek

The Russian president Vladimir Putin has said that the U.S. is correct to withdraw its troops from Syria.

During his annual Q&A with domestic and foreign media, Putin was asked by The Chicago Tribune what he thought of the decision by President Donald Trump and his claims that the war against the Islamic State had been won.

"Donald is right and I agree with him," Putin said.

Putin reiterated Moscow’s view that the U.S. presence in Syria is illegitimate because it has not been agreed by the U.N. Security Council or approved by Syrian President Bashar Assad’s government.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/putin-backs-trumps-decision-pull-troops-out-syria-says-donald-right-1266460



MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin praised President Trump’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria, describing the American presence there as illegitimate and the Islamic State as largely defeated on the ground.

Putin told journalists at his annual year-end news conference that the Islamic State has suffered “serious blows” in Syria.

“On this, Donald is right. I agree with him,” Putin said.

Trump said Wednesday that the Islamic State has been defeated in Syria, although analysts say the militant group remains a deadly force.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-welcomes-the-us-decision-to-withdraw-its-military-from-syria/2018/12/20/4a7a0c32-0445-11e9-958c-0a601226ff6b_story.html
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Putin Backs Trump's Decision To Pull Troops Out Of Syria, Says "Donald Is right" (Original Post) demmiblue Dec 2018 OP
Does anyone need more evidence that Trump has sold out his county? olegramps Dec 2018 #1
No rational human being would doubt it RVN VET71 Dec 2018 #2
He just removed sanctions from Oleg Derapaska, watoos Dec 2018 #12
He could choose Bendict Arnold's plan and escape to Russia like Arnold escaped to England. olegramps Dec 2018 #19
We have a Russian Agent in the White House Botany Dec 2018 #3
+1 Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #11
The military loves him. watoos Dec 2018 #13
The military brass has been in the Republican's pocket for years on end. olegramps Dec 2018 #20
Trump lie-tweeted "Russia doesn't like (exit)" to deflect the "agent" accusation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #21
Putin owns Trump. We will find out what he has on him when Trump is no longer useful. olegramps Dec 2018 #22
The depth to which "they" have sown their hatred can be seen in how upset some people are at the ... Botany Dec 2018 #23
Yes. It is a double barreled attack. Hate radio propaganda reinforced from the pulpits. olegramps Dec 2018 #24
Evangelicals are Christians who have skipped the teachings of Christ. Botany Dec 2018 #25
Well, that settles it than.... yuiyoshida Dec 2018 #4
No matter what side of the issue one's on, this decision, and the way it was made and implemented, mobeau69 Dec 2018 #5
I mean, are his Tweets, orders? watoos Dec 2018 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2018 #6
As I understand it mobeau69 Dec 2018 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2018 #9
I would agree with you 99.9% of the time, but.. watoos Dec 2018 #15
The republican misleader* has sold out America Achilleaze Dec 2018 #7
Pootins Puppet Racerdog1 Dec 2018 #10
We have a russian agent LittleGirl Dec 2018 #16
Oh, well then. If Papa Pootie says it's okay then I guess we shouldn't worry about it. Nitram Dec 2018 #17
Who's a good boy?! Codeine Dec 2018 #18
Sock puppet obeys Spymaster MFGsunny Dec 2018 #26
"Donald," not "President Trump" More_Cowbell Dec 2018 #27
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I have to wonder what our end goal for Syria has been xor Dec 2018 #28

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
2. No rational human being would doubt it
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:06 AM
Dec 2018

And there are other issues of payback Individual-1 owes to Vladimir Putin, issues which will be brazenly revealed by the failed mob boss over the next very few months. Sadly, even as those debts are paid and the smile on Putin's face grows more arachnoid, a spider contemplating its victim wrapped hopelessly in a cocoon of webbing, there'll be 30,000,000 Americans -- and most of the GOP -- supporting his every bizarre and treasonous act as proof he wants to MAGA!

The more obvious his treason becomes, the more I find myself hoping that, far from prison, Individual-1 simply "escapes" to Russia, there to languish in humiliation and obscurity until death comes for him.

Baitball Blogger

(46,761 posts)
11. +1
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:00 AM
Dec 2018

Republican military brass have been duped if they supported this dope.

Actually, betrayed would be a better word.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
22. Putin owns Trump. We will find out what he has on him when Trump is no longer useful.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:01 AM
Dec 2018

Putin will squeeze him dry and then throw him in the garbage dump. The major problem is that the Republican Party's senators and representatives have unconditionally committed themselves to the destruction of the Democrats. They have engaged in spreading hatred and division so extensively that they would have to make a major change to stop the destruction that is taking place. Their dilemma is that their program has been resounding success. Their constituency has been so deeply brainwashed with the 24/7 hate propaganda that if they oppose Trump and his insane policies they will face defeat at the polls. They have made a pact with the devil that is having devastating repercussions throughout American society. Meanwhile the oligarchs are steadily working to transform the presidency into a authoritarian dictatorship that they can control at will. Good luck citizens. While we slept they were busy undermining every article of the constitution. A democracy is a government of the people and when they fail to be informed and properly utilize their right to vote it is in its death throes.

Botany

(70,593 posts)
23. The depth to which "they" have sown their hatred can be seen in how upset some people are at the ...
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:35 AM
Dec 2018

.... the "NFL kneeling thing." Trump is on record telling people to go to websites that
are out of Russia to learn "the truth" and the web sites were: Stand for the flag, Stand for
the troops, and Stand for the anthem. Trump/Russia/GOP/Coal Companies have also sold
ignorance and hatred to the coal people of Appalachia and even though they know down deep
that coal is a dying business they have had their hatred stoked by years of hate talk and
and pure lies by the coal companies and others. In W.V. one of the big factors in the spreading
of this ignorance is by people'e "pastors."

We are up against something so big it is hard to understand.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
24. Yes. It is a double barreled attack. Hate radio propaganda reinforced from the pulpits.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:50 AM
Dec 2018

I attended two fundamentalist maga-churches. The control of the congregations was alarming at best. Both had rallies after the services that were addressed by local Republican pols who attacked the Democratic candidates, local, state and federal, as enemies of stolid god fearing Christians. They were in lockstep agreement to vote straight Republicans tickets. There was no descent and a lot of amen.

Botany

(70,593 posts)
25. Evangelicals are Christians who have skipped the teachings of Christ.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 12:16 PM
Dec 2018

But they do love their JEEE=zus! And bring him out as their hammer.

mobeau69

(11,158 posts)
5. No matter what side of the issue one's on, this decision, and the way it was made and implemented,
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:32 AM
Dec 2018

is terrifying on so many levels.

He's shooting from the hip on a critical nationality security issue for perceived domestic political purposes! We're not out of the woods yet, America.

Thanks, deplorables.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. I mean, are his Tweets, orders?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:09 AM
Dec 2018

The military has failed to act on several of his previous Tweets.

You know how he got elected president (other than with help from Russia). He listened to the people's gripes who were calling in to AM radio and he used those issues in his campaign.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Response to mobeau69 (Reply #8)

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
15. I would agree with you 99.9% of the time, but..
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:15 AM
Dec 2018

once we pull out, our allies, the Kurds, who did the ground fighting for us and we supplied air support, in our fight against ISIS, are going to get slaughtered. We made a promise to them that we would stick by them. What message is that going to send to other people, to other countries? It will send the message to not trust the United States, our word is no good.

Nitram

(22,898 posts)
17. Oh, well then. If Papa Pootie says it's okay then I guess we shouldn't worry about it.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:57 AM
Dec 2018

I suspect Putin just delivered an ultimatum to the Trumpster: "deliver, or we release the video."

xor

(1,204 posts)
28. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I have to wonder what our end goal for Syria has been
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 02:27 PM
Dec 2018

As in, what our overall objective is and what was the criteria for completion. I understand the goals of helping our Kurdish friends defeat ISIS and others of their ilk. For the most part that seems to be mostly complete. Not that ISIS is gone, of course, but their little wanna be country has been beaten down.

So, are we now there to protect our Kurdish friends from the Sryian/Russians and the Turks? If so, what is the scope of this and how long should we be there? What is the criteria for us to leave the region? We don't seem to be pushing for any political solutions like a Kurdish state. So, it seems like the plan is to stay indefinitely without any real timeline or goals.

If our continued goal is put pressure on Assad so that his regime falls, then I'm not sure I can support that. Assad is an asshole who should be tossed out, but if that happens then we risk ISIS or a similar group rising again. If Assad is gone and Syria goes to complete hell, then I doubt the Russians would stick around. That means US men and women will likely be the ones who will be brunt of any force to try to regain control. Iraq was/is bad enough. I don't want to see another 5,000 Americans die over there. Nor do I want to see millions of Syrians suffer more than they would have because of it.

I get that people will suffer under Assad, and that really sucks. Similar to how many suffered under Saddam's rule and would have continued to suffer under him if the US didn't invade. But how much more suffering was caused by our invasion? Most of us acknowledge that ISIS has its roots from the our Iraq adventures.

I am by no means an expert (on anything), so I could be wrong on this. I'm trying not to let my dislike for Trump and relationship with Russia influence my opinion too much.

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