Oregon white nationalist clashes with antifa activists, later hospitalized

[Julian Englis]

Source: Oregon Live

A man viewed as a fixture in Oregon’s white nationalist movement was hospitalized Monday after an altercation with antifascist activists in downtown Corvallis.

Jimmy Marr, known for driving a pickup truck around the state with racist and anti-Semitic messages emblazoned on the sides, was admitted to Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center, hospital staff told The Oregonian/OregonLive.

Corvallis police on Tuesday said he suffered from a “medical event” during the incident. His condition is unknown, and he did not respond to phone calls or an email seeking comment.

A fight involving Marr, a 65-year-old Springfield resident, and five other people erupted on Northwest Monroe Avenue near Third and Fourth streets just before 4 p.m., police said.

Read more: https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2018/12/oregon-white-nationalist-clashes-with-antifa-activists-later-hospitalized.html

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I am generally against beating up people. Jimmie Marr makes me question this.

[Jedi Guy]

1. If he threw the first punch, then he got what was coming to him.

If not, then the Antifa activists should be arrested and have their day in court for assault and battery. It's not okay to physically attack someone over a difference of opinion, belief, or ideology, no matter how reprehensible those views may be.

[RDANGELO]

3. Agree.

We need to object to unjustified violence from Antifa. The right wing media tries to push the meme that we all support them. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Democrats didn't even know who they are.

[ancianita]

6. Antifa groups have strict engagement rules. Old dude could have used "fightin' words," but it's

not likely antifa threw the first punch.

I'm sure the truth will come out.

[ret5hd]

8. Point us to all the "unjustified violence" we need to object to please.

[RDANGELO]

11. We need to be carefull here. Giving them a blank check can get us in trouble.

[ret5hd]

13. A "blank check" for deposit in a non-existent account? How novel.

[CentralMass]

27. I live near Portland and would say there have been numerous incidents since the election in 2016

A few related links.

More links

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/portland_may_day_demonstration.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/11/antifa-far-right-protesters-clash-again-in-portland-disrupting-peaceful-rallies/?utm_term=.ca062f9f5314


https://www.newsweek.com/antifa-violence-portland-bernie-sanders-video-1082072

[Marengo]

34. Was the attack on Alejandro Godinez & Luis Torres justified?

[Devil Child]

7. +1 n/t

[CCExile]

17. I mostly agree, but...

"It's not okay to physically attack someone over a difference of opinion, belief, or ideology, no matter how reprehensible those views may be." I'm OK with the opinion and the belief part, but the ideology part gives me trouble. "Nazi" and/or "White Nationalist" ideology go beyond opinion and belief. We've seen this to be true in the worst possible way. An ideology goes beyond. It is a rallying point for action, and the actions lead to, indeed they DEMAND actions that harm innocent people. These people need to be dealt with in a WW2 fashion.

[The Liberal Lion]

19. Disagree

It's perfectly ok to attack, injury, maim or perhaps even kill someone preaching messages of hate. This is not a simple matter of "difference of opinion", this is a matter of good vs evil and right vs wrong, an existential question.
The only reason racist fucks like this one have any foot to stand on is because of so-called "good natured" and "fair folks" allowing these racist attitudes to be equated with "difference of opinion" and that these differences of opinion deserving to be counted as "valid" in the marketplace of ideas. My view is if you are willing to preach hate then you are ready to get hate back.

[Jedi Guy]

29. I completely disagree.

The answer to bad speech is good speech, not violence. Attacking them only allows them to claim to be victims, which gives them a rhetorical tool to spread their views and recruit more people.

Furthermore, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Setting a precedent that it's acceptable to respond to speech with violence will put us on a terrible path as a country. It's already bad enough out there, we don't need it to get worse.

I find it very concerning that you're okay with potentially murdering people over their views. Who gets to decide which views are grounds for being killed? You? Me? A judge? The federal government? Or is it going to just be a free-for-all, with anyone murdering those who hold views they find objectionable?

Once that genie is out of the bottle, there's no putting him back in.

[Marengo]

35. If you advocate homicide as a valid response to the voicing of an opinion, you're no better

Than the Nazis.

[The Liberal Lion]

36. Racism, sexism, homophobia

are not opinions. I advocate an eye an eye. I do not live by the words "treat others as you will have them treat you", I live by the words "treat others as they treat you". In so saying, if one advocates my death, then I will treat that person with the very same intentions as they have for me.

[Marengo]

38. How often do you attack, injure, maim, or kill someone for voicing an opinion?

[The Liberal Lion]

39. until it stops

[Marengo]

41. That's not an answer to my question. I want specifics. Do you assault people daily, weekly?

How many in a given month? In total? Do use weapons of any type? In public or private?

[The Liberal Lion]

42. You should enjoy your holiday with your family and friends

and not worry your little head about this cowardly lion.

[Marengo]

43. As I expected, another deflection. I wonder why you won't answer? No matter, the holiday will be...

Over shortly and I’ll return to ask for specifics again. Should give you ample time to compile a list of your exploits.

[LanternWaste]

30. Who is arguing otherwise?

"It's not okay to physically attack someone over a difference of opinion..."

Who, with weight of validity and premise is arguing otherwise?

[Jedi Guy]

33. Quite a few people in this thread.

At the time I made the post, though, no one had. That was simply a statement of belief and opinion on my part. But you knew that, of course.

[Corgigal]

2. 65 years old?

Oh grow up, you silly fool.

[pwb]

4. Another fake tough guy racist.

Good he got what he deserved. They think they can say anything they want but a democrat will kick their ass every time.

[pecosbob]

5. We know Jimmy Marr deserves the label...not so sure about the others...

that label is bestowed rather freely in some quarters and reinforces RWTPs.

Local news reports said the clash may have involved anti-fascist (antifa) activists, but police had not confirmed that.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/12/18/oregon-neo-nazi-jimmy-marr-hospitalized-after-street-fight

[ret5hd]

9. Here's ole' "Genocide Jimmy" (his twitter handle):

[The Liberal Lion]

20. This one most def deserved an ass whoppin'

[Triloon]

10. this is good news

Nazis look their best in hospitals, prisons, and graveyards. Anyone want to dispute that? In reading the article I see that those terrible antifa with their brutal treatment of this poor man were jailed by police for Suspicion of Disorderly Conduct, and later released. In other words, they didn't lay a finger on him. He had a "medical event" and checked into the hospital. I'm guessing a blood pressure spike from eating too much bacon proving he's not Jewish or Muslim. There are plenty of people that deserve your sympathy in this world but this Marr guy isn't one of them.
The presumptions some people have about antifa are a damn shame. Kneejerk pr straight out of Alex Jones, Gavin McInnis, and St Putinsburg.

[Roadside Attraction]

15. My father and his generation . . . .

My father and his generation went off to war where they killed Nazis. Their only failure is they didn't kill 'em all.

[ProfessorGAC]

31. They Couldn't Kill Those Not Yet Born

This guy is 65. That makes him 3 years older than me which means he was not only born after WWII but either after Korea or at the tail end of the wind down.

So, unfortunately, your dad and his generation didn't have a chance to stop these stooges. They grew up to be stooges much later.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

12. This guy is such a virulent racist

that even the Southern Poverty Law Center knows who he is. Those of us who have lived in the Great Pacific Northwest for any length of time, remember him as "NO ZOG" Jimmy. That's what his license plates read, until ODOT (Oregon Dept. of Transportation) got so many complaints, they revoked his plates. His truck is emblazoned with nazi slogans and swastikas.

If he had his ass handed to him, he probably deserved it. It would not be the first time, either.

[Roadside Attraction]

14. ". . . against beating up people . . . "

The author of this comment states: "I am generally against beating up people. Jimmie Marr makes me question this."

Well, yes, I also am generally against violence. Or, more accurately, I should say I WAS against violence. That was before the days of Charlottesville. That was the days before I discovered one of my neighbors was among the Nazis at Charlottesville and is a contributor to various Nazi websites, including the Daily Stormer.

Three years ago I learned from another neighbor that a young fellow who lives in our neighborhood in rural Virginia is a Nazi, white supremacist, contributor to Nazi websites and regular commentator on The Daily Stormer. A few months later, at a neighborhood picnic, in a conversation with a couple of other neighbors, I unloaded on Nazis, white supremacists and assorted trash. The next morning, I found a small swastika flag stuck in my front yard. I burned it.

Two days later, happened again. Burned it.

Three days later, happened again. I took the flag inside and called the young fellow, asked him to come to my house. Invited him to sit on the back porch, brought out the flag, asked if he was the one putting them in my yard. He admitted he did it.

I then went in the house and came out with my shotgun. Laid it on the table between us. Told him the next time I find a swastika flag or similar horseshit in my yard, Mr. Remington and I will have a conversation with him. He all but shit in his trousers.

That was around two years ago. Haven't heard from him since.

Sometimes you really do have to slap the shit out of them.

[Julian Englis]

16. Strong work. n/t

[UpInArms]

18. Well done

[The Liberal Lion]

21. That's how it's done.

[Docreed2003]

26. Well played!

[Still In Wisconsin]

22. Another stupid right wing MFer who has made the mistaken assumption that only one side

is willing to fight. Glad to see a guy like this get the crap knocked outta him.

[Just a Weirdo]

23. Karma hit him. Repeatedly.

Not fun being a Nazi, Marr?

Tots and pears for him.

[Hulk]

24. These are the souls that simply don't matter when they are gone.

I have regrets in life. I really have some guilt about mean things I did when I was a kid, how I used words that today are unthinkable to use for labeling people....for laughs or for whatever urged me on.

But I'm hoping when I die I leave people with good memories of me....I will have left four wonderful kids and at least 8 wonderful grandchildren that I am so proud of.

But people like this jackass, I honestly think the world will be better off without. Nobody will miss them; certainly not our sick society today. These sick, twisted bastards just need to either get mental help or die off.

[marble falls]

25. Marr just learned that crap don't play well on the westside.

[zanana1]

28. Yes, he's repulsive, but...

One against five just isn't right.

[ProfessorGAC]

32. Unless. . .

. . .the one started it knowing he was outnumbered because he was a slimy numbskull.

[Hugin]

37. Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center...

There's some irony for you.

[Paladin]

40. Good. (nt)