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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:28 AM Dec 2018

Maria Butina's boyfriend claimed he set up Trump-Russia NRA "conduit" as campaign funds flowed

Source: Salon

Republican operative Paul Erickson claimed in an email he’d set up a private Russia-GOP channel through the NRA

IGOR DERYSH
DECEMBER 12, 2018 12:00PM (UTC)

Admitted Russian spy Maria Butina’s Republican operative boyfriend wrote in private communications that he was involved in setting up a “very private line of communication” between Russia and the Trump campaign using the National Rifle Association as a “conduit.”

Butina, a 30-year-old Russian gun rights activist, worked for years to cultivate relationships within Republican and NRA circles. She was charged with working as an agent of the Russian government earlier this year and on Monday agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy charges and cooperate with prosecutors.

In her plea deal, Butina admitted that she and “US Person 1,” who is longtime Republican operative Paul Erickson, “agreed and conspired, with a Russian government official,” whose description matches Russian banker and close Putin ally Alexander Torshin, for Butina to “act in the United States under the direction of Russian Official without prior notification to the Attorney General,” ABC News reported.

Under Torshin’s direction, the document said, Butina “sought to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over U.S. politics.”

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2018/12/12/maria-butinas-boyfriend-claimed-he-set-up-trump-russia-nra-conduit-as-campaign-funds-flowed/



A fucking traitor....................end of story

And as for the NRA........................they need to be stripped of there 501(c) tag, they operate under, and then run around hiding behind the second amendment..............................fucking traitors.......................nothing more and nothing less....................enabling fucking traitors....................

Bring there asses into Congressional hearings.................January 3, 2019..................


November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough.......................
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Maria Butina's boyfriend claimed he set up Trump-Russia NRA "conduit" as campaign funds flowed (Original Post) turbinetree Dec 2018 OP
Damning underpants Dec 2018 #1
How the hell can they get a 501(c) tag, watoos Dec 2018 #2
The NRA, a Tax-Exempt Loaded with Private Interest turbinetree Dec 2018 #3
K & R Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #4
"30 year old gun rights activist" like Doogie Howser is an MD lostnfound Dec 2018 #5
Yeah, that's letting her continue to define the (bogus) narrative. deurbano Dec 2018 #9
Dude angrychair Dec 2018 #41
Why isn't this a big deal? Should lead every newscast, no? Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #6
I'm hoping it will be a big deal. watoos Dec 2018 #11
Republicans won't go near this with a 10 ft pole vlyons Dec 2018 #30
Will Butina And Erickson And This Russian Connection To The NRA.... global1 Dec 2018 #7
The depth and scope of the GOPs eagarness to sell out their country procon Dec 2018 #8
Sure looks like a Smocking Gun to me Moral Compass Dec 2018 #10
Meh, remember Alito mouthing "not true" at president Obama's SOTU? watoos Dec 2018 #13
Just in..., safeinOhio Dec 2018 #12
I mean, really. watoos Dec 2018 #14
Meanwhile in Russia the media is saying she is being tortured BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #15
They're saying that because that's what THEY do. calimary Dec 2018 #29
Probably in Saudi Arabia the media is saying BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #42
about this GOP operative Paul Erickson Butina worked with onetexan Dec 2018 #16
Incoming House Intel Committee--please investigate. slumcamper Dec 2018 #17
Will The Repugs In The House & Senate That Accepted Russian Tainted NRA Money..... global1 Dec 2018 #18
NRA has no non-profit purpose HopeAgain Dec 2018 #19
That's the $64-thousand question FakeNoose Dec 2018 #35
Yep, traitors. SunSeeker Dec 2018 #20
Can Scott Walker be the first to be prosecuted? AllyCat Dec 2018 #21
Scott Walker w/Butina and her Russian handler Alexander Torshin Botany Dec 2018 #23
I have heard (Rachel I think) that Mr. Torshin has now gone missing in Russia. Botany Dec 2018 #22
Apparently the Republican senators from NC received millions from the NRA. yardwork Dec 2018 #26
2 things: Botany Dec 2018 #34
Came out months ago DownriverDem Dec 2018 #24
My bet is the 30M went through the RNC infullview Dec 2018 #25
goes back to having "Hard Evidence" and verification of witnesses, if true, this beachbum bob Dec 2018 #27
Watch for some folks in SoDak Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #28
Dusty Johnson was more than happy to be at the Teenage Republicans retreat with Butina... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2018 #37
Hey thanks for the info. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #39
I keep hearing the NRA's name brought up, but no actual charges LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #31
A lot of that is under investigation Apollyonus Dec 2018 #32
What I want to know mickswalkabout41 Dec 2018 #33
Jack Abramoff is involved again. Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #36
Black Jack has been waaay too quiet of late UpInArms Dec 2018 #40
"Russian gun rights activist" LOL. Even Salon is going with that canard? PSPS Dec 2018 #38
This is dynamite, if true. And shocking...how Russia infiltrated our government. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #43
This is Confirmation of What was Widely Suspected dlk Dec 2018 #44
Is Erickson going to jail too? paleotn Dec 2018 #45
Wayne LaPierre ZERTErYNOthe Dec 2018 #46
This is traitorous Trump/NRA/GOP Putin collusion writ large jpak Dec 2018 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author linuxuser3 Dec 2018 #48
Whether it's Iran-Contras or NRA-Russia, wherever there's treason there is Ollie North. Hassler Dec 2018 #49
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. How the hell can they get a 501(c) tag,
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:45 AM
Dec 2018

when they gave 30 million dollars to Trump?

Well, if that's the case, maybe they should owe a lot of back taxes. Bankrupt the traitors.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
3. The NRA, a Tax-Exempt Loaded with Private Interest
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:49 AM
Dec 2018
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2018/03/08/ask-the-taxgirl-is-the-nra-a-charity/#5d2b818e17df


https://www.csgv.org/nra-tax-exempt-loaded-private-interest/

They are not suppose to take any foreign money and shove it into a campaign that came from a power power or players.....................................bring there asses into a congressional hearing ....................

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
5. "30 year old gun rights activist" like Doogie Howser is an MD
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:55 AM
Dec 2018

Last edited Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)

She plays one in videos
If she was seriously fighting for private gun rights in Russia, she’d be in Siberia or six feet under or have periodic lockups

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
9. Yeah, that's letting her continue to define the (bogus) narrative.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:00 PM
Dec 2018

The idea that Putin is a fan of private gun rights in Russia reminds me of the NRA's legendary support for gun rights for black Americans.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. I'm hoping it will be a big deal.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:09 PM
Dec 2018

It will be a bigger deal if McConnell was involved. I don't think that all of that 30 million dollars went to just Trump.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
30. Republicans won't go near this with a 10 ft pole
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:50 PM
Dec 2018

The question is -- what GOP congressman/senator did NOT get NRA money?

Check out top congress critters who got NRA money -- https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=d000000082

global1

(25,270 posts)
7. Will Butina And Erickson And This Russian Connection To The NRA....
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:59 AM
Dec 2018

bring down the NRA or just severely wound it? Will it root out the bad element in the NRA and let it become again an organization just for gun safety?

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. The depth and scope of the GOPs eagarness to sell out their country
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:59 AM
Dec 2018

to Russia is unprecedented. How did they think they could get away with it?

Moral Compass

(1,525 posts)
10. Sure looks like a Smocking Gun to me
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:03 PM
Dec 2018

Hard to pick which smocking gun is going to do the most damage.

This looks reaaaaaaalllllly bad. Back channel communications with a hostile foreign power and money laundering through a purported 501c to obscure where the money was coming from...

What a tangled web was weaved...

The shit is hitting the fan.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. Meh, remember Alito mouthing "not true" at president Obama's SOTU?
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:12 PM
Dec 2018

I keep waiting for journalists to ask Alito if he wants to apologize to Obama?

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
15. Meanwhile in Russia the media is saying she is being tortured
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:16 PM
Dec 2018

in jail here and she is a political prisoner (CNN).

calimary

(81,459 posts)
29. They're saying that because that's what THEY do.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:47 PM
Dec 2018

That’s how they treat their own political prisoners.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
42. Probably in Saudi Arabia the media is saying
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 06:12 PM
Dec 2018

That bone saws are being used on her. Our new allies, Russia and the Saudis...isn't it lovely.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
17. Incoming House Intel Committee--please investigate.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:21 PM
Dec 2018

Let's hear what the folks at NRA have to say about this "channel."

global1

(25,270 posts)
18. Will The Repugs In The House & Senate That Accepted Russian Tainted NRA Money.....
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:24 PM
Dec 2018

be caught up in this as well or will they just say that they didn't know it was Russian tainted? With the amount of money that was passing from the NRA to the Repugs - seems like it could take a lot of Repugs down.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
19. NRA has no non-profit purpose
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:33 PM
Dec 2018

Nothing they do is charitable, religious or educational. Why is being traitorous tax exempt?

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
35. That's the $64-thousand question
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:31 PM
Dec 2018

Their tax-exempt status should be rescinded immediately. Then the IRS should bill them for 30 years' back taxes during the time they were nothing but a pro-gun lobby (not a charity) and they'll be out of business in no time.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
22. I have heard (Rachel I think) that Mr. Torshin has now gone missing in Russia.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

How many Republicans got Russian money through the NRA.

In Ohio Rob Portman got > $3,000,000. Total traitors.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
26. Apparently the Republican senators from NC received millions from the NRA.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:12 PM
Dec 2018

It's important to point out that the NRA itself - in addition to illegally funneling Russian cash to Trump and other Republican campaigns - promote massive marketing efforts against Democrats. The NRA routinely promotes lies about Democratic positions on gun rights.

For instance, there was an incredibly well-funded, massive campaign by the NRA against Hillary Clinton in 2016. Millions of people became convinced that she would take away all their guns if elected.

The same smear campaigns contributed to the losses of Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.

The Democrats need to put the NRA out of business.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
34. 2 things:
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:54 PM
Dec 2018

I was in the belly of the beast in 2004 and we had the real life people who served w/Kerry in Vietntham and the local TV stations and Newspaper would not give them any coverage but some were more than willing to give a platform to those paid liars.

In 2016 the gun nuts in Ohio were convinced that HRC was going to repeal the 2nd amendment as President....
We were overwhelmed with dark (Russian) money NRA ads.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
24. Came out months ago
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:58 PM
Dec 2018

I remember seeing something about this months ago. Let's hope it brings down the NRA too.

infullview

(982 posts)
25. My bet is the 30M went through the RNC
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:06 PM
Dec 2018

You have all the right people involved Elliott Broidy, Reince Priebus, and Michael Cohen. I'm sure they passed millions on to republican candidates - so they are all guilty and this is probably one of the big reasons they're protecting tRump. If he goes down, there will be a lot of small fish who will also fry.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
28. Watch for some folks in SoDak
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:44 PM
Dec 2018

being rolled up in this. Last I heard,his family and friends do not know him. BTW,watch for NRA Sodaker's running for the hills so to speak.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,077 posts)
37. Dusty Johnson was more than happy to be at the Teenage Republicans retreat with Butina...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:58 PM
Dec 2018

... I post this to give others here an update or background on a few things discussed in this thread.

[link:http://dakotafreepress.com/2017/03/27/maria-butina-connects-russians-nra-trump-sibby-and-mathew-wollmann/|

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
39. Hey thanks for the info.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:10 PM
Dec 2018

Was in Sodak when the famous Sunday insert in the Souix Falls Paper. The fellow next door where we were staying is the County Dem Chair Person,and he came over with this story. Erickson was behind the Broadside to take out Dashle. Perfect timing,we saw this method used in Utah were by white papers and Sunday Broadsides were our stake through the Heart for we Dems. In my neighborhood in Utah at the time,white papers were the norm on the Sunday before Election Day.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
31. I keep hearing the NRA's name brought up, but no actual charges
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
Dec 2018

Why don't they get more coverage? I get there is so much happening in the White House every day, but this is directly related to the election that got Trump where he is. Why is there no hard interviews with NRA officials? No arrests made? I hope its coming down the pike.

 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
32. A lot of that is under investigation
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:05 PM
Dec 2018

Butina and her BF have to be debriefed by the prosecutors and then they have to find corroborating evidence.

I think we'll see indictments in a few months naming the NRA's brass. Until then, there will be silence. It is also possible that someone in the NRA will start secretly singing to get a better deal.

mickswalkabout41

(145 posts)
33. What I want to know
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:34 PM
Dec 2018

Is how long the NRA has been funneling money to the Republican Party. Follow the money, step over the turtle and find out whose involved. Then lock em all up.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
40. Black Jack has been waaay too quiet of late
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:12 PM
Dec 2018

jmho

And from what I know, these swamp things just go dark and crawl out at night to do nefarious deeds

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
38. "Russian gun rights activist" LOL. Even Salon is going with that canard?
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:01 PM
Dec 2018

There is no "gun rights" movement in Russia.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
43. This is dynamite, if true. And shocking...how Russia infiltrated our government.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 07:47 PM
Dec 2018

F***king Russia actually infiltrated our government.

dlk

(11,576 posts)
44. This is Confirmation of What was Widely Suspected
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 07:55 PM
Dec 2018

The NRA has been money laundering for the Russians. Lock them up!

ZERTErYNOthe

(200 posts)
46. Wayne LaPierre
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 08:26 PM
Dec 2018

Wayne LaPierre, who is a long time VP? President? of the NRA, since 1991, apparently resigned in May of this year, which lead to Ollie North becoming president of the organization. I think ... hope someone else can verify.

My googling tonight hasn't really helped me out, so I will ask some fellow DU people:

* What has been Wayne LaPierre's role in the NRA over the last 30+ years?
* Did he resign in May of this year?

I think there is 'something' there, but would like to hear other peoples opinions. I searched for his resignation, and honestly, there isn't much out there (unless I have been using the wrong search terms), except for this article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/07/us/oliver-north-nra-president.html

I suspect that he saw the пишу on the wall ....

jpak

(41,759 posts)
47. This is traitorous Trump/NRA/GOP Putin collusion writ large
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 08:54 PM
Dec 2018

Lock them UP.

Grab their fucking holy gunz.

Yup

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