Top Dem Jerry Nadler Says Yes, Trump Can Be Impeached if He Directed Porn Star Payoff
Source: Mediate
by Tommy Christopher | Dec 9th, 2018, 10:05 am
Donald Trump could face impeachment in fairly short order, if incoming House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) is any indication. On Sunday mornings edition of CNNs State of the Union, Nadler told host Jake Tapper that the offenses alleged in Michael Cohens sentencing memo would certainly
be impeachable offenses.
Tapper recounted the contents of those documents, which show that federal prosecutors believe that Trump directed Cohen to commit felonies by paying off porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. If its proven, are those impeachable offenses?
Well, they would be impeachable offenses, Nadler said, but added that whether they are important enough to justify impeachment is a different question.
But certainly, they would be impeachable offenses, because even though they were committed before the president became president, they were committed in the service of fraudulently obtaining the office, he continued.
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thesquanderer
(11,992 posts)What they haven't had is a House willing to impeach and a Senate willing to convict. We may soon have the first, but things may have to get even more obviously egregious to have a shot at the second.
Izzy Blue
(282 posts)Trump was trying to obtain the presidential office according to Giuliani Cohen began receiving monthly retainer payments from the Trump Organization in January 2017.
Not only was this done then when Trump was now president it was done with an agreement between Trump's people and possibly Trump too, for Cohen to submit monthly false invoices for legal services that were never done
.
These false invoices were reported to also have been written off as business expenses by the Trump Organization.
It's part of the SDNY's investigation into the Trump Organization and it's finances along with Allan Weisselberg the CFO of the organization who was said to have been given immunity for his testimony.
Weisselber was mentioned on the Trump/Cohen tape as the go-to guy for Cohen to make the arrangements in setting up a shell company to pay back David Pecker of AMI the $150,000 for Karen McDougal's story about her affair with Trump and get all the info they had pertaining to it.
The shell co. was eventually set up and wasn't used for Pecker it was used to pay Stormy the $130,000/NDA.
Cohen was fraudulently paid $420,000 for the $130,000 of his own money he used to pay Stormy.
When all is said and done Trump arranging the payment with Cohen to AMI with while he was campaigning for president may be the tip of the iceberg.
Snip:
"When asked how many payments Trump had made, Giuliani told NBC News the president started paying Cohen back in January 2017 and that altogether there were "about 12 installments of $35,000 each."
The money, totaling an estimated $420,000, also covered other expenses and fees for Cohen, Giuliani said, but he was unable to provide details".
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-giuliani-he-ll-get-his-facts-straight-n871391
Botany
(70,588 posts)... other crimes but at the end of the day the real question is, "What about Hillary's emails?"
Trump Must Go
(32 posts)if we impeached Trump for anything less than his conspiring with Russia to steal the election. We would look like we were out to get him for no good reason (like the Republicans did with Bill Clinton). We would never be able to convict and we would put the country thru a great deal of pain.
Izzy Blue
(282 posts)Cohen and Trump aides have denied any affair.
"Giuliani also said in his statement Friday that his "references to timing" in media interviews this week were "not describing my understanding of the President's knowledge, but instead, my understanding of these matters."
amcgrath
(397 posts)- as usual - seem terrified of raising the idea of impeachment because they fear looking weak if they lose.
Do they truly believe a loss would reflect as badly on them as Republican congress members standing and voting that the felony of campaign finance fraud, is acceptable for the secret funnelling of money to pay off hookers?
It is possible that under the right framing of the debate that some Reps who have sworn allegiance may well crumble. And if they don't, then they have rightly been put on record as pro-crime, and anti democracy. - something that will mark them for the next election.
LiberalFighter
(51,094 posts)There should be more than enough to do it. And they need to counter the DOJ's memo that a sitting President can't be indicted too. Individual 1 is a criminal. He has no right to be President.
riversedge
(70,306 posts)Muskiteer
(34 posts)Top Democrat: Constitution allows Trump to be indicted while in office
by Naomi Lim
December 09, 2018
Washington Examiner
Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., doesn't buy Justice Department guidelines that suggest a sitting president can't be indicted.
"I disagree with the Office of Special Counsel and the Department of Justice: There is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits the president from being indicted," the likely next chairman of the House Judiciary Committee told CNN Sunday. "This country originated in a rebellion against the English king. We did not seek to create another king. Nobody, not the president, not anybody else, can be above the law. There's no reason to think that the president should not be indicted."
Nadler added that either way, a president can be indicted after they leave office.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-democrat-constitution-allows-trump-to-be-indicted-in-office
BigmanPigman
(51,630 posts)and that prompted the moron to tweet nasty Blumenthal tweets the next day.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)We need to proceed and get all the crimes Trump has committed out in the public before we impeach.