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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:42 AM Dec 2018

Tillerson: Trump would ask me to do things I couldn't legally do

Source: The Hill

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says he often had to push back on President Trump, telling him that some of his requests would violate the law.

“So often, the president would say here's what I want to do and here's how I want to do it and I would have to say to him, 'Mr. President I understand what you want to do but you can't do it that way. It violates the law,' ” Tillerson said in rare public remarks in Thursday night in Houston at a fundraiser for the MD Anderson Cancer Center.

“I'd say here's what we can do. We can go back to Congress and get this law changed. And if that's what you want to do, there's nothing wrong with that. I told him I'm ready to go up there and fight the fight, if that's what you want to do,” he added.

Tillerson said Trump would show frustration during those conversations. Trump and Tillerson, a former Exxon Mobil CEO, were known to have a contentious relationship. Tillerson was dismissed from his post in March and replaced by then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420221-tillerson-trump-would-ask-me-to-do-things-that-i-couldnt-legally-do?__twitter_impression=true

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Tillerson: Trump would ask me to do things I couldn't legally do (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 OP
Tillerson: "You can't do it that way, Mr. President, it's against the law..." louis c Dec 2018 #1
LOL n/t orleans Dec 2018 #19
Mafia bosses have a tendency to do that dalton99a Dec 2018 #2
Mafia boss wannabe. watoos Dec 2018 #3
So do toddlers DBoon Dec 2018 #5
And this is why you were fired. Count yourself lucky. My question is SummerSnow Dec 2018 #4
They will tell you that they were around to protect the country. Renew Deal Dec 2018 #7
It had to be weird for Tillerson Renew Deal Dec 2018 #6
It must have been...after all, he did call rump a 'moron'...nt SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #9
Is it ethical for alias Wayne Tracker to deny climate change and thwart efforts to stop it? Ponietz Dec 2018 #12
Exxon.. Ethical...? In the same sentence? pangaia Dec 2018 #20
I know Renew Deal Dec 2018 #21
Tillerson sums it up nicely here: JohnnyRingo Dec 2018 #8
That certainly is the problem. Exxon contributes to it, though. yardwork Dec 2018 #22
Just more examples of duforsure Dec 2018 #10
How many Criminal Soliciation counts does that make it? N/T Ponietz Dec 2018 #11
Getting fired was probably the best outcome for him. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #13
Dementia boy in full bloom with the disease Maxheader Dec 2018 #14
Working for a self-centered bigot such as Trump has to be difficult for most! riversedge Dec 2018 #15
Oh, the stories we will hear from those who interacted with tRump. Grammy23 Dec 2018 #16
You buried the other lede..... brooklynite Dec 2018 #17
I was wondering when we would hear from Rexxon. McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #18
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
1. Tillerson: "You can't do it that way, Mr. President, it's against the law..."
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:44 AM
Dec 2018

Rex, phone call on line 3 from a Mr. Mueller.

JohnnyRingo

(18,640 posts)
8. Tillerson sums it up nicely here:
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:51 AM
Dec 2018

Deep down, we all know this

The former secretary of state also said he believed Trump was able to win the presidency because the public is disengaged on many important issues.

“I will be honest with you, it troubles me that the American people seem to want to know so little about issues, that they are satisfied with a 128 characters,” Tillerson said.

“I don't want that to come across as a criticism of him,” he added. “It's really a concern that I have about us as Americans and us as a society and us as citizens.”


Thanx for posting.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
22. That certainly is the problem. Exxon contributes to it, though.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 01:09 PM
Dec 2018

Decades of anti-science and pseudoscience deployed to protect Exxon from having to deal with the environmental problems their company creates have helped confuse and stupefy the public.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. Just more examples of
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dec 2018

How corrupt and treasonous, and criminal this illegitimate person in the oval office is. I'd bet there's many others in this administration that could say the same thing he's tried with them.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
13. Getting fired was probably the best outcome for him.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:18 PM
Dec 2018

He was considered to be a very competent CEO when at Exxon. Trump probably hired him because he assumed the CEO of a multinational oil company would be a perfect SoS (because, of course, government is just like business, at least to GOPers), and of course to Trump the oil connection meant there was money to be made. But Tillerson, having never been in government, tried to run the State Department like he ran Exxon and it didn't work.

His push to slash “inefficiencies” in the State Department and seeming disinterest in working closely with longtime staff were even more damaging. Under Tillerson’s watch, 60 percent of State’s top-ranking career diplomats resigned and new applications to join the foreign service fell by half, according to a November count by the American Foreign Service Association.

This hollowing-out of the foreign service, combined with Tillerson’s inability to appoint people to vital positions like ambassador to South Korea, delayed American responses to major crises and weakened the State Department for a “generation,” according to George Washington University’s Elizabeth Saunders.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/13/16029526/rex-tillerson-fired-state-department

I think he took the job seriously, but he was a fish out of water and had no idea what he was doing. But the mess at the State Department wasn't entirely his fault because it was impossible to deal with Trump. He sucked as SoS but not getting along with Trump, which is what got him fired, probably saved what was left of his reputation.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
14. Dementia boy in full bloom with the disease
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:22 PM
Dec 2018

confusing it...cartoon characters running around in its mind
yelling "YOUR THE KING!!"....

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
16. Oh, the stories we will hear from those who interacted with tRump.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:27 PM
Dec 2018

This long national nightmare hopefully will come to an end sooner rather than later. Then the tell all books will come tumbling out. As if we don’t know plenty already about tRump, we will probably get more information than we really want to know about tRump and his twisted, criminal mind. His life and mental issues will be studied for a long time. We also need some serious study on exactly how so many Americans were persuaded he was the guy they wanted to lead us. I am not sure we WANT to know the answers but we NEED to know.

brooklynite

(94,717 posts)
17. You buried the other lede.....
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 12:30 PM
Dec 2018

“What was challenging for me coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented Exxon Mobil corporation,” Tillerson said, was “to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports, doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just kind of says, ‘This is what I believe.’ ”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/07/rex-tillerson-trump-undisciplined-doesnt-like-read-tries-do-illegal-things/?utm_term=.b9c8c44466d1

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