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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 01:59 PM Nov 2018

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard to Trump: Being Saudi Arabia's B*tch Is Not 'America First.'

Source: DAILYBEAST



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Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard took to Twitter on Wednesday to excoriate Donald Trump for his decision to apparently pardon Saudi Arabia for the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, labeling the president the “bitch” of the authoritarian kingdom. “Hey @realDonaldTrump,” Gabbard tweeted, “being Saudi Arabia’s bitch is not “America First.” Gabbard’s tweet comes just a day after Trump announced released a statement—with “America First!” right at the top—that heavily implied that he will not pursue any further action against top Saudi officials, who are widely believed to be responsible for the writer’s murder, and cast doubt on the finding of the CIA, his own intelligence service. Gabbard previously came under fire for her own forays into Middle Eastern affairs, including her secret 2016 trip to meet with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria at the height of its civil war and her suggestion that Assad, a brutal dictator who has overseen the deaths of more than 500,000 people in his country, should not be removed from office.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-tulsi-gabbard-to-trump-being-saudi-arabias-btch-is-not-america-first



well, the donald will not like this one.



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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard to Trump: Being Saudi Arabia's B*tch Is Not 'America First.' (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2018 OP
same is true with Russia JI7 Nov 2018 #1
Ohhh...I like this person!! And what's she is saying is true. This is NOT America first. nt SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #2
she's very much a "mixed bag," but on this, I give her kudos!!! hlthe2b Nov 2018 #4
Agree. I'd like to know where she draws that same line with Assad, but kudos to poking Trump in the Bfd Nov 2018 #6
Someone responded to her tweet with that sentiment. George II Nov 2018 #11
Expect they did. Did she reply? Bfd Nov 2018 #12
Politicians rarely, if ever, respond to tweets. That's not a bad policy! George II Nov 2018 #21
Yes, she is a mixed bag. But yes again. Kudos for this sapper! riversedge Nov 2018 #9
Same here. brush Dec 2018 #51
She's right in this case but has a checkered history IronLionZion Nov 2018 #7
Indeed. Once I rec'd your post (and others) about her, I looked her up. An interesting... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #13
She was rumored to be in line for ambassador to the UN under Trump NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #15
I think she's out of the running now. mpcamb Nov 2018 #36
Her ugly, misogynistic choice of words whathehell Nov 2018 #30
There you have it Achilleaze Nov 2018 #3
It is like Crow's needing to be sexually dominated laserhaas Dec 2018 #49
Ouch! jpak Nov 2018 #5
We need more of this tone from Democrats SpankMe Nov 2018 #8
Um, maybe the "tone" whathehell Nov 2018 #31
This tone doesn't work with us. Hortensis Dec 2018 #46
You guys are clueless Yosemito Nov 2018 #10
Thank you. Explains the many 'wtf' replies to her call out. Bfd Nov 2018 #14
Yep, she's appeared on FOX several time to bash Obama. brush Nov 2018 #19
Another explanation whathehell Nov 2018 #26
Actually, that is an excellent point. Is the double standard ok because of her gender? I think not still_one Nov 2018 #40
Thank you.. I agree whathehell Nov 2018 #41
Your explanation sounds pretty cut and dried. watoos Nov 2018 #16
Elizabeth Warren and Pelosi know more than you about the Middle East Yosemito Nov 2018 #33
They are both murderers JonLP24 Nov 2018 #34
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #17
Pretty big accusations against a Democrat, maybe a potential presidential candidate. watoos Nov 2018 #20
it's not a question of whether Assad should be ousted. just like with Saudi Arabia JI7 Nov 2018 #29
Assad has won the "worst human rights violator" of the year JonLP24 Nov 2018 #35
K&R lilactime Nov 2018 #18
she has no credibility when it comes to the middle east. Mosby Nov 2018 #22
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Nov 2018 #28
Thank You. Cha Dec 2018 #48
I'm neither fond of Rep. Gabbard, nor do I like her usage of "America First" in this context. The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #23
Oh snap! ffr Nov 2018 #24
Aw, these young whipper snappers hit it right on the head. pdsimdars Nov 2018 #25
She had no problem with Assad still_one Nov 2018 #27
That was mentioned already above. Did I miss her 'loving' Assad? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2018 #38
She sure voiced skepticism that Assad was responsible for the gas attacks, so while she may not still_one Nov 2018 #39
she's right rollin74 Nov 2018 #32
Rep. Gabbard is spot on and pulls no punches Devil Child Nov 2018 #37
Thank You Rep. Gabbard, duforsure Nov 2018 #42
I don't get the criticism of Gabbard on this thread. EricMaundry Nov 2018 #43
Why, her embrace of Assad is deplorable. Small-Axe Dec 2018 #44
The pro-Trump press has denounced her for this as well EricMaundry Dec 2018 #47
Do more research on her. She used to appear on FOX bashing Obama and she... brush Dec 2018 #52
Not digging on the Dem hate here, dude. EricMaundry Dec 2018 #53
Oh, threats now? Well help yourself, but do your research. brush Dec 2018 #54
"Many here are aware of these things." EricMaundry Dec 2018 #55
Educate yourself. Gabbard leans right on several issues. God, why don't you know this? brush Dec 2018 #56
Sorry. Doesn't justify Dem bashing EricMaundry Dec 2018 #57
I'm wondering what your's are since you're fairly new here. DU is a discussion board... brush Dec 2018 #58
How many posts do you have to make to be allowed an opinion? EricMaundry Dec 2018 #59
You've been here long enough to know then this is a progressive site, not right-leaning. brush Dec 2018 #60
I don't see Dem bashing as being a progressive value EricMaundry Dec 2018 #61
Is it bashing to note that Gabbard is the actual one who has appeared on FOX... brush Dec 2018 #62
Can you supply me with a list off who in the Democratic Party I am allowed to support? EricMaundry Dec 2018 #63
Pay attention. Those who go on FOX and bash a sitting Democratic president... brush Dec 2018 #64
She called Trump a bitch EricMaundry Dec 2018 #65
That part I agree with her on. Let's see how it plays out. brush Dec 2018 #66
Exactly! laserhaas Dec 2018 #50
Oh, brother! Ms. Gabbard has a little committee problem Hortensis Dec 2018 #45
 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
6. Agree. I'd like to know where she draws that same line with Assad, but kudos to poking Trump in the
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:11 PM
Nov 2018

eyeball on the Saudi's.

Well said.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
7. She's right in this case but has a checkered history
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:12 PM
Nov 2018

she's a complex individual, one of the first Dems to work with Trump when he won the election.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
13. Indeed. Once I rec'd your post (and others) about her, I looked her up. An interesting...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:21 PM
Nov 2018

character indeed.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. She was rumored to be in line for ambassador to the UN under Trump
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:29 PM
Nov 2018

though it was eventually filled by Nikki Haley

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
30. Her ugly, misogynistic choice of words
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:48 PM
Nov 2018

is decidedly 'wrong'..As a woman and a democrat, one expects more self- respect and less self- hatred.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
8. We need more of this tone from Democrats
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:14 PM
Nov 2018

Republicans do this all the time to us, and they get credit for being all ballsy, genuine and direct. We don't want to lose our dignity. But they occasional dope-slap tweet should become SOP for Dems.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. This tone doesn't work with us.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:31 PM
Dec 2018

This subject reminds me of that nasty, snide, insinuating tone that's a signature of Republican political attack ads. Works wonderfully for them, but we never copy it. Nastiness disgusts and repels most Democrats.

In more ways than one. While engineering our blue wave, the DCCC learned that pictures of Trump and children in cages on mailers disturbed and irritated many Democrats into turning them over to remove the pictures from view instead of reading. They changed to an emphasis on positive messages of what we intend to do for the nation, and...ding-ding-ding! Hundreds of wins.

 

Yosemito

(648 posts)
10. You guys are clueless
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:20 PM
Nov 2018

While it is true that Trump is Saudi Arabia's bitch, Gabbard said this not because she is a principled anti-despot politician.
She said it because Saudi Arabia has called for the removal of Assad, a murderer that Tulsi worships.

brush

(53,784 posts)
19. Yep, she's appeared on FOX several time to bash Obama.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:59 PM
Nov 2018

I'm glad she did this but she's a DINO.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
26. Another explanation
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 04:59 PM
Nov 2018

might be the ugly, sexist language. As a woman, this "expression"

sickens me.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
16. Your explanation sounds pretty cut and dried.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:53 PM
Nov 2018

Tulsi backs a murderer, and he is murdering his own people, but I believe Syria is in the middle of a civil war, correct? Following your logic, the reason that Saudi Arabia wants Assad removed is because Assad is a murderer, correct? How noble of SA to denounce someone who is a murderer, correct?

Are you sure that this situation isn't a bit more complicated? C'mon now, what's the real reason that SA wants Assad removed? I think it has to with Israel and Iran doesn't it?

Are you 100% sure that Assad gassed his own people?

Just asking because Tulsi knows a little bit more about the Middle East than you or I know.

 

Yosemito

(648 posts)
33. Elizabeth Warren and Pelosi know more than you about the Middle East
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:21 PM
Nov 2018

If you and I go back and forth comparing each other to Congress Democrats...trust me.
I'll win.


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Response to Yosemito (Reply #10)

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
20. Pretty big accusations against a Democrat, maybe a potential presidential candidate.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:19 PM
Nov 2018

When she speaks about the Middle East she does so with experience. Did she bash Obama or bash one of his policies? For all of you people here claiming that Assad should be ousted, I have but one question for you, would the Middle East be better off with Assad out of power, with a vacuum left in Syria?

I could be wrong but I think I'm hearing Saudi Arabia/right wing Israeli talking points here.

Who is going to fill in the void when Assad is ousted? Don't get me wrong I understand that Assad is a brutal dictator who murders his own people, but so was Saddam Hussein, and how many of you here believe it was a good idea for us to oust him from power? I'm 71 years old and I still remember what happened in Iraq and it sounds to me like people here are asking for an Iraq 2.0 with Syria.

Just asking.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
29. it's not a question of whether Assad should be ousted. just like with Saudi Arabia
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 05:10 PM
Nov 2018

in both cases admitting that they have done does not mean one has to support war.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
35. Assad has won the "worst human rights violator" of the year
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

There is a big difference plus the reasons going into Iraq was based on a made up conspiracy theory.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
23. I'm neither fond of Rep. Gabbard, nor do I like her usage of "America First" in this context.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:54 PM
Nov 2018

The slogan of "America First" is a chauvinistic piece of nationalist garbage. America was only a "shining City" on the hill due to our at least surface level appearance of being a partner amoung nations. Due to the make-up of America, namely that every nationality, ethnicity, religion, gender, etc could be found in this land we were a role model for how a country of many could cooperate as one. That's what made us a leader, that's what made us cultural role models. The use of "America First" in any context ignores this fact of our existence and thereby our former greatness. There was better ways Rep. Gabbard could have chastised trump. This, however, was a poor method.

still_one

(92,213 posts)
39. She sure voiced skepticism that Assad was responsible for the gas attacks, so while she may not
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:03 PM
Nov 2018

"love" Assad, she sure had no problem providing cover for him


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
42. Thank You Rep. Gabbard,
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:20 AM
Nov 2018

Hopefully it will be looked into when he learned about this plot to kill this journalists. When did intel tell him about it, and i bet he knew before it happened and did nothing, and partly why he's running a cover up about it now . Did trump and jared have a hand in giving the prince intel on his opposition, and did they provide mercenaries for them to be rounded up for him , where they sent some to prison and murdered some of them. Did trump work with the prince to do this to his critic Kashoggi?

brush

(53,784 posts)
52. Do more research on her. She used to appear on FOX bashing Obama and she...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 07:44 AM
Dec 2018

cozied up to trump when he "won." and was on the short list to be UN ambassador which Haley got. Plus she's an Assad apologist.

Many here are aware of these things.

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
53. Not digging on the Dem hate here, dude.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 08:27 AM
Dec 2018

Maybe this needs to go to the jury. I'm filing a complaint.

brush

(53,784 posts)
58. I'm wondering what your's are since you're fairly new here. DU is a discussion board...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:12 AM
Dec 2018

that allows criticism. I'm far from the only one noting Gabbards previous Obama bashing on FOX and her providing cover for Assad. Do your research.

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
59. How many posts do you have to make to be allowed an opinion?
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:18 AM
Dec 2018

I've actually had this acct for quite some time. But I work a lot, so the board fly thing is not available to me.

brush

(53,784 posts)
62. Is it bashing to note that Gabbard is the actual one who has appeared on FOX...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:39 AM
Dec 2018

Last edited Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:20 AM - Edit history (1)

several time bashing Obama?

Do your research then get back to us.

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
63. Can you supply me with a list off who in the Democratic Party I am allowed to support?
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:42 AM
Dec 2018

Obviously there is some sort of commissariat in session.

You sure you're not just upset that she called Trump a bitch?

brush

(53,784 posts)
64. Pay attention. Those who go on FOX and bash a sitting Democratic president...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:47 AM
Dec 2018

and later cozy up to trump makes one wonder if they're actual Democrats or DINOs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. Oh, brother! Ms. Gabbard has a little committee problem
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:07 PM
Dec 2018

she needs to focus on instead of building fake foreign policy cred to run for president on. Yes, I know.

The job her constituents just elected her to do is to be on some pertinent (to them) committees and to do work, real work, on those committees, to serve her state and nation, plus whatever duties require her presence in Hawaii.

One problem is that she famously has a history of causing trouble for those she works with, something of course known to all her colleagues, including something like 116 heads of their committees and subcommittees. It doesn't help that she not only refused to do the fundraising expected of all, but that the DCCC had to invest a lot more than usual to help her hold her seat against the Republican candidate. Needless to say, she's not well regarded among her colleagues.

The other is, again, that Ms. Gabbard wants to be President Gabbard. Chances of making it through the primaries are somewhat less even than Trump's would have been after subtracting his draw of our authoritarian and/or progressive populists (his trumpsters) and Putin. But in practical terms it's apparently basically physically impossible to wage a 2-year campaign for president and even partially adequately serve her state, which is 4700 miles from DC. Meanwhile, 2020's already approaching irritatingly fast and we have build on our majority, not lose seats.

But the world needs her. How else are we ever going to get peace in the Middle East?

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