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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:58 PM Nov 2018

Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/us/politics/pre

WASHINGTON — President Trump told the White House counsel in the spring that he wanted to order the Justice Department to prosecute two of his political adversaries: his 2016 challenger, Hillary Clinton, and the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

The lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, rebuffed the president, saying that he had no authority to order a prosecution. Mr. McGahn said that while he could request an investigation, that too could prompt accusations of abuse of power. To underscore his point, Mr. McGahn had White House lawyers write a memo for Mr. Trump warning that if he asked law enforcement to investigate his rivals, he could face a range of consequences, including possible impeachment.

The encounter was one of the most blatant examples yet of how Mr. Trump views the typically independent Justice Department as a tool to be wielded against his political enemies. It took on additional significance in recent weeks when Mr. McGahn left the White House and Mr. Trump appointed a relatively inexperienced political loyalist, Matthew G. Whitaker, as the acting attorney general.

It is unclear whether Mr. Trump read Mr. McGahn’s memo or whether he pursued the prosecutions further. But the president has continued to privately discuss the matter, including the possible appointment of a second special counsel to investigate both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Comey, according to two people who have spoken to Mr. Trump about the issue. He has also repeatedly expressed disappointment in the F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray, for failing to more aggressively investigate Mrs. Clinton, calling him weak, one of the people said.


Read more: New York Times



And with his new stooge Whitaker now at the helm of the DOJ, are we out of the woods here yet?

This is just another blatant sign of autocratic desiring on the Madman's part. Disgraceful yet not at all surprising.
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Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2018 OP
Worthless f*&% Maxheader Nov 2018 #1
Banana Republican Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #2
This is why impeachment is necessary JonLP24 Nov 2018 #3
Right. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2018 #5
No.Republicans rather have trump in the fish bowl & they actually run presidents position. Sunlei Nov 2018 #7
I'd like to see an investigation of 'who' ordered 5th st. Doctors office raided & all records stolen Sunlei Nov 2018 #4
Agree. It's amazing how many critical news stories fall off the radar in a day or two. erronis Nov 2018 #11
That was a strongarm attack on that Doctors office. Must be something worth hiding Sunlei Nov 2018 #12
Reads like a clear and present danger to me. byronius Nov 2018 #6
Lindsey Graham will head the Judiciary Committee come January. charlyvi Nov 2018 #8
Hell be too busy Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #23
A US Attorney has already been tasked to look at Clinton exboyfil Nov 2018 #9
Huber better shove the Clinton issue to be looked Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #24
I don't know if we're gonna make it. mobeau69 Nov 2018 #10
That's become an oxymoron: Patriotic Repuglicans erronis Nov 2018 #13
Institutions being extremely challenged. djacq Nov 2018 #14
Criminally stupid. C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #15
It's all the rage with these right-wing despots sandensea Nov 2018 #16
CNN said that tRump was warned that it could lead to impeachment. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #17
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #18
Putin has his puppet duforsure Nov 2018 #19
Jebus Crisp. He doesn't get rule of law at all, does he? He thinks he's a tin pot dictator. marble falls Nov 2018 #20
from my twitter feed Gothmog Nov 2018 #21
Seems to me that we are hanging onto a democracy by a thin thread. Canoe52 Nov 2018 #22
not any more, Dems have the House now so we can breathe a little better onetexan Nov 2018 #27
Dumbshit thinks the justice department are his lackeys Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #25
holy cow i've been bz today and just now heard this on Ari Melber onetexan Nov 2018 #26
From the Beat with Ari Gothmog Nov 2018 #28
Trump wants to politicize all branches of government to serve him as a weapon, duforsure Nov 2018 #29

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
5. Right.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:06 PM
Nov 2018

I think hoping to vote him out in 2020 is both too good for him and not a done deal.

Once Mueller is done his investigation, it's time to go all in.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. No.Republicans rather have trump in the fish bowl & they actually run presidents position.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Nov 2018

shove whatever needs signing in front of him. Trumps an excellent distraction and Pence would rather stay in the shadows.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. I'd like to see an investigation of 'who' ordered 5th st. Doctors office raided & all records stolen
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

all original medical records taken.

erronis

(15,355 posts)
11. Agree. It's amazing how many critical news stories fall off the radar in a day or two.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:23 PM
Nov 2018

How about a nice website/blog that keeps a list of these items and where they are now?

Sorted and filtered by the what/who/when.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. That was a strongarm attack on that Doctors office. Must be something worth hiding
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:26 PM
Nov 2018

in those family records.

I guess prescription medicine abuse, years of it.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
8. Lindsey Graham will head the Judiciary Committee come January.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:12 PM
Nov 2018

He is on record saying he wants to investigate her.

As Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) gets ready to take the reins as chair the Senate Judiciary Committee, he spoke with Fox News’ Sean Hannity this week about his plans for the new year – specifically as to the kind of issues Graham is prepared to investigate. From the Lexis-Nexis transcript:

“You know, to my Democratic friends, if you want to look backwards, we are all going to look backwards. I want to know why the FBI reached to the conclusion along with the Department of Justice that Hillary Clinton didn’t commit a crime. Was it because of political bias? […]

“Did the Department of Justice and the FBI use a document paid for by the Democratic Party? Research by foreign agents to get a warrant against an American citizen that was inappropriate, potentially unlawful? […]

“We need a special counsel to look at all of this. But I intend to look at it. I’m going to look at it. If you are going to keep plowing everything up in 2016, count me in. If you want to look for it, I will look for it.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/lindsey-graham-eager-investigate-doj-hillary-clinton

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
23. Hell be too busy
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 09:36 PM
Nov 2018

Trying to head off House subpoenas to care. Trump is in all kinds of trouble and is facing death for treason. He stole from the American taxpayers and continuing criminal enterprise already headed for RICO charges and stripped from humanity and thrown into solitary death row.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
9. A US Attorney has already been tasked to look at Clinton
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:19 PM
Nov 2018

John Huber. A special counsel makes no sense because no conflict exists since Clinton is no longer in government.

mobeau69

(11,156 posts)
10. I don't know if we're gonna make it.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:19 PM
Nov 2018

It's all up to the new House and Mueller now. There doesn't seem to be any patriotic republicans left in Congress.

erronis

(15,355 posts)
13. That's become an oxymoron: Patriotic Repuglicans
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

I do feel some sadness for the demise of the quote/unquote "moderates" from yesteryear. But even these moderates were probably rabidly far right but knew how to look/talk like real humans.

Lindsay "boy" Graham has worn many coats in his career. I think he has decided to become totally buck nekkid now. Screw Democracy and Fuck the Rule of Law.

sandensea

(21,674 posts)
16. It's all the rage with these right-wing despots
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 06:56 PM
Nov 2018

Hungary's Orban, Poland's Duda, Brazil's Temer (and now Bolsonaro), and Argentina's Macri are taking their cues from Cheeto:

Appointing attack dogs to top posts, using judges against opponents, using surveillance to threaten critical media and public figures, etc.

BigmanPigman

(51,635 posts)
17. CNN said that tRump was warned that it could lead to impeachment.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 07:06 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Tue Nov 20, 2018, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

It is a civil liberties violation. It seems like he wants to be impeached? He is so fucked up in his pea size brain who knows?

THIS is an indictable offense the guests on Air Member just said. This is a really BIG DEAL they are saying.
They are sure Mueller is looking into this now too.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
19. Putin has his puppet
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 07:56 PM
Nov 2018

Trying to do the same things here he's done there in Russia. Investigators need to ask Session , did he ask you to go after Comey and Clinton too? Will we soon see people poisoned here too?

onetexan

(13,062 posts)
27. not any more, Dems have the House now so we can breathe a little better
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 11:33 PM
Nov 2018

we just need Mueller to hasten it a bit quicker so we can get this fool the hell out of the WH

onetexan

(13,062 posts)
26. holy cow i've been bz today and just now heard this on Ari Melber
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 11:31 PM
Nov 2018

clearly obstruction & abuse of power by the DOTUS

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
29. Trump wants to politicize all branches of government to serve him as a weapon,
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:58 AM
Nov 2018

Including the DOJ, the judicial system, and the military, and the Senate. He wants absolute power to protect himself with , and to use against his opponents with, and just like Putin has done in Russia. He wants to be the judge , jury, and executioner.

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