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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:39 PM Nov 2018

CIA Hunted For Truth Serum To Use On Terror Suspects After 9/11

Source: Talking Points Memo/AP



By DEB RIECHMANN

November 13, 2018 2:27 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — Shortly after 9/11, the CIA considered using a drug it thought might work like a truth serum and force terror suspects to give up information about potential attacks.

After months of research, the agency decided that a drug called Versed, a sedative often prescribed to reduce anxiety, was “possibly worth a try.” But in the end, the CIA decided not to ask government lawyers to approve its use.

The existence of the drug research program — dubbed “Project Medication” — is disclosed in a once-classified report that was provided to the American Civil Liberties Union under a judge’s order and was being released by the organization Tuesday.

The 90-page CIA report, which was provided in advance to The Associated Press, is a window into the internal struggle that medical personnel working in the agency’s detention and harsh interrogation program faced in reconciling their professional ethics with the chance to save lives by preventing future attacks.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cia-truth-serum-search-post-sept-11

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CIA Hunted For Truth Serum To Use On Terror Suspects After 9/11 (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Veritaserum Recipe niyad Nov 2018 #1
"CIA decided not to ask government lawyers to approve its use?" mitch96 Nov 2018 #2
That was my reaction, too. Nitram Nov 2018 #5
They decided to ask forgiveness instead of permission. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #6
I'm wading through the 90 page document now... SeattleVet Nov 2018 #8
Men who stare at goats truthisfreedom Nov 2018 #3
Somebody Should Hunt For A Truth Serum To Use On Cadet Bone Spurs nt smb Nov 2018 #4
There's nothing that powerful. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #7
Put it in his diet Coke keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #9
Considering how delusional he is I doubt he even can tell the difference cstanleytech Nov 2018 #12
Did they try it on Cheney? pressbox69 Nov 2018 #10
Shades of MKULTRA EarthFirst Nov 2018 #11

niyad

(113,344 posts)
1. Veritaserum Recipe
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:45 PM
Nov 2018

Veritaserum
hp.png Veritaserum Mind

Arguably the most potent truth serum in the world, Veritaserum is a substance strictly controlled by the Ministry of Magic. Three drops is said to induce the drinker to spill even the darkest and most well-guarded secrets. There are methods of resistance which vary in degrees of success, such as utilizing its antidote or Occlumency. It is most effective when used on one who is unaware and unprepared to attempt resistance. Despite its efficacy, Veritaserum is not used to coerce confessions of guilt or innocence in trial as it is considered to be unreliable and unfair - much the same as Muggle Polygraph test results.
Only an advanced potion maker should attempt to brew Veritaserum. The process is complex, and the finished product must mature over the course of one full lunar cycle (approximately twenty-eight days.) If done correctly, the potion will be odourless, colourless, and almost indistinguishable from water.

Part I
• On the day of the new moon, pour Standard Potioning Water into an iron cauldron and bring to a simmer
• Pour Vial of Ptolemy into cauldron with an anti-clockwise motion and allow to simmer for ten minutes
• Stir Powdered Moonstone into the mixture one spoonful at a time, dissolving thoroughly
• While the mixture simmers, carefully slice Adder's Fork lengthwise to divide the tongue into halves and drop into cauldron
• Raise heat and bring mixture to a rolling boil
• Drop Jobberknoll Feathers into cauldron, stirring clockwise one time between each feather
• Remove cauldron from flame upon reaching a rolling boil
• Quickly crush Sopophorous Beans with the flat of the blade of a silver knife and add to the mixture
• Allow mixture to cool before straining into a bottle for maturation

Part II
• Leave bottle in a dark, cool undisturbed location for the duration of the cycle
• On the night of the full moon, place bottle in the moonlight to absorb the light
• If this last step cannot be performed due to weather conditions, the potency will suffer to a degree

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
2. "CIA decided not to ask government lawyers to approve its use?"
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:54 PM
Nov 2018

If you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you.... Knowing of their past shady dealings they prolly tried it on a bunch of people and it did not work..
That "CIA decided not to ask government lawyers to approve its use." is a CYA ploy...
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Nitram

(22,822 posts)
5. That was my reaction, too.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 04:21 PM
Nov 2018

I would consider the CIA to be negligent if they didn't try to develop a safe truth serum.

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
12. Considering how delusional he is I doubt he even can tell the difference
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 10:32 PM
Nov 2018

from what is a lie and what is the truth so it would probably not work on him.

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