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arenean

(456 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:04 AM Nov 2018

Bernie Sanders says midterms prove progressive can win the White House

Source: The Guardian

Bernie Sanders has declared that the midterm election results show a clear path for a progressive candidate to win the White House in 2020 – but the Vermont senator hasn’t made up his mind yet as to whether he will be among those running.

In a phone interview from Burlington on Wednesday, Sanders, fresh off his Senate re-election victory, called Trump’s “us-against-them” approach to government a lesson in “demagoguery 101” and said he was dismayed that the president’s fear-based appeals helped strengthen Republican control of the Senate.

“When people are anxious and worried about the future, demagogues not just in the United States but all over the world play to those fears,” Sanders said.

But the Democratic takeover of the House, which ended one-party rule in Washington, was a “very clear message from the American people against Trump policies, his behavior and his bigotry”, Sanders told the Guardian.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/07/bernie-sanders-midterms-progressive-2020-president

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Bernie Sanders says midterms prove progressive can win the White House (Original Post) arenean Nov 2018 OP
He's quite right. truthisfreedom Nov 2018 #1
And again trump lied duforsure Nov 2018 #2
Wait, I thought he said he didn't see a blue wave coming njhoneybadger Nov 2018 #3
That's right.. BS was wrong. Cha Nov 2018 #16
That's not the whole story, Bernie. In New York a progressive candidate replaced a progressive Nitram Nov 2018 #4
The midterms did not prove his assertion one way or another, and your assessment is quite correct. still_one Nov 2018 #11
Has anyone ever said a progressive *couldn't* win the White House?? Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #5
You're correct. NOBODY has ever said that. It's an absurd statement. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #6
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Nov 2018 #10
A "progressive*" can win the Presidency, but not just ANY "progressive". George II Nov 2018 #18
That is an important distinction. AND... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #20
With all due respect, Bernie... beastie boy Nov 2018 #7
On top of that, if the endorsed candidates by his own organization (Our Revolution)..... George II Nov 2018 #14
Did he explain how that was proven on Tuesday night? The right progressive can win... George II Nov 2018 #8
Yeah, I think so too, because of rural America. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #13
Congrats to Governor Cordray and Senator O'Rourke. OilemFirchen Nov 2018 #9
Except the composition of the Senate is closer to what is takes to elect a president Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #12
Bernie is right. It's just the beginning! Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #15
The Clintons' were progressive and they won--25 years ago. R B Garr Nov 2018 #17
Don't know if a progressive(whatever the hell that means) can. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #19

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. And again trump lied
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:44 AM
Nov 2018

He claimed the markets would go bad if they were voted out, the opposite occurred and it shot up over 500 points showing the Dems win was good. It will crash before long from their policies, and he knows its coming.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
4. That's not the whole story, Bernie. In New York a progressive candidate replaced a progressive
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:48 AM
Nov 2018

candidate. In other states, moderates won because a progressive would never have won. Democrats need to keep a big tent, because the country has an enorrmous and very diverse population. One size most defnitely does not fit all.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
11. The midterms did not prove his assertion one way or another, and your assessment is quite correct.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:22 AM
Nov 2018

The only thing the midterms demonstrated is what you said, "one size does not fit all"

Howard Dean's 50-state strategy


Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. Has anyone ever said a progressive *couldn't* win the White House??
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:08 AM
Nov 2018

I seem to remember that dude we ran back in '08 did all right for himself...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. You're correct. NOBODY has ever said that. It's an absurd statement.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:56 AM
Nov 2018
Has anyone ever said a progressive *couldn't* win the White House??
You're correct. NOBODY has ever said that. It's an absurd statement. -- I think maybe I've heard pundits say that Bernie couldn't win the White House... maybe that's what he's referring to.

I seem to remember that dude we ran back in '08 did all right for himself...
Absolutely true. Obama was very progressive and he did indeed do quite well for himself AND for our nation.

Bernie's statement assumes things that haven't been seriously claimed conflicts with what we already know to be true and it serves no good purpose for anyone to claim otherwise and to ignore or denigrate Obama's progressive accomplishments. At this time, we need to acknowledge and CELEBRATE our party's history and contributions. Why ignore them or pretend that it didn't happen?

From the Guardian: "And for progressives, like Sanders, who had hoped the midterm elections would prove that Democrats can run unapologetically liberal campaigns and win in battleground districts and states, the night provided little evidence."
Exactly. The type of "one-size-fits-all" approach that Sanders and his supporters advocate has been proven (again) to be the wrong way to go.

All I'm saying is that Howard Dean was correct with his "Fifty-State" approach. Dean understood that New England and East-Coast politics doesn't work well in the Midwest or the Deep South. The candidates we select must be able to attract votes from the center-left AND the center-right. We can't win on "far left" votes alone.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. A "progressive*" can win the Presidency, but not just ANY "progressive".
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:28 PM
Nov 2018

*a loosely defined, evolving term.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. That is an important distinction. AND...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:02 PM
Nov 2018
*a loosely defined, evolving term.
... and that's an important distinction.

beastie boy

(9,345 posts)
7. With all due respect, Bernie...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:02 AM
Nov 2018

Midterms prove that progressives can win the House and lose the Senate. It's a far stretch to project either on the outcome of the Presidential elections.

This is a repeat of what Bernie was saying in 2016, and look where it got us.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. On top of that, if the endorsed candidates by his own organization (Our Revolution).....
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:09 PM
Nov 2018

....is indication, his premise is incorrect.

This year Our Revolution endorsed candidates in 287 races, only 88 (30.7%) won. This is from Our Revolution's own website.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Did he explain how that was proven on Tuesday night? The right progressive can win...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:05 AM
Nov 2018

....in 2020, but it's more likely that a moderate can/will win.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
9. Congrats to Governor Cordray and Senator O'Rourke.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:12 AM
Nov 2018

And a special shout-out to my new Representative Theresa Gasper.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
12. Except the composition of the Senate is closer to what is takes to elect a president
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:50 AM
Nov 2018

Not saying Sanders is wrong, but winning the house majority is more like Hillary getting 3 million more votes... and still not wining the presidency. If we can win senate majority, that's like being able to win the electoral collage. We were close to that at least. Rural areas have more say than they should I think. It should be based on popular vote, but it's not.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
17. The Clintons' were progressive and they won--25 years ago.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:59 PM
Nov 2018

Healthcare
Climate change

Obama actually accomplished the ACA. Go Democrats!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Don't know if a progressive(whatever the hell that means) can.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:45 PM
Nov 2018

But I damn well know a liberal Democratic candidate can.

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