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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:50 PM Nov 2018

FDA approves powerful opioid despite fears of more overdose deaths

Source: The Washington Post



By Lenny Bernstein November 2 at 2:02 PM

The Food and Drug Administration approved a powerful opioid Friday for use in health-care settings, rejecting criticism from some of its advisers that the drug would inevitably be diverted to illicit use and cause more overdose deaths.

The opioid is five to 10 times more potent than pharmaceutical fentanyl. A tiny pill that is just three millimeters in diameter, it is likely to worsen the nation’s drug crisis, according to critics and the head of the FDA’s advisory committee on painkillers.

FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb issued an unusual statement saying he would seek more authority for the agency to consider whether there are too many similar drugs on the market, which might allow the agency to turn down future applications for new opioid approvals.

“We need to address the question that I believe underlies the criticism raised in advance of this approval,” Gottlieb wrote. “To what extent should we evaluate each opioid solely on its own merits, and to what extent should we also consider .?.?. the epidemic of opioid misuse and abuse that’s gripping our nation?”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/fda-approves-a-powerful-new-opioid/2018/11/02/88cd27e6-deaf-11e8-85df-7a6b4d25cfbb_story.html

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FDA approves powerful opioid despite fears of more overdose deaths (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Obviously, that's what they want. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #1
Let's be real. nycbos Nov 2018 #2
You're not wrong. I wish you were, but you're not. SKKY Nov 2018 #15
+1 (And I'm white) ck4829 Nov 2018 #25
The same outfit spent $500k to defeat legalized pot sandensea Nov 2018 #3
Gee I wonder why? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #6
Why the fuck would you need an opioid 5 to 10 times more powerful than Fentanyl? kysrsoze Nov 2018 #4
Bc they are drug dealers, protected by corporate laws. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #5
Because there are cancer patients who have pain fentanyl won't relieve jmowreader Nov 2018 #20
Thank you for stating what should be obvious. n/t crim son Nov 2018 #21
This was posted here before... Archae Nov 2018 #7
+1 CountAllVotes Nov 2018 #8
Thank you. nt blaze Nov 2018 #9
+1 keopeli Nov 2018 #10
The fear that quantities might be diverted to the streets Ellen Forradalom Nov 2018 #11
I think they will be, actually taking this drug involves a lot of effort. Archae Nov 2018 #12
But controls don't always work, do they? atreides1 Nov 2018 #13
Of course. Archae Nov 2018 #14
I agree with you in principle regarding the hyperbolic response... SKKY Nov 2018 #16
At least it won't be available for prescribing in the outpatient setting. Aristus Nov 2018 #17
chalk one up to saturated advertising of drugs. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2018 #23
"for use in health-care settings" This is good news, many people NEED pain relief in Hospitals Sunlei Nov 2018 #18
Some people actually need narcotic for pain relief imavoter Nov 2018 #27
I agree. and a very tiny pill (like this new one) was needed. Sunlei Nov 2018 #29
We are going to legalize MJ in MI. roamer65 Nov 2018 #19
Sites like leafly dot com do good reviews of the effects of strains of weed. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2018 #28
MJ works very, very well to 'reduce inflamation'. wish it was Legal everywhere. Sunlei Nov 2018 #30
Fentanyl has a pretty bad rap now. Flaleftist Nov 2018 #22
K&R ck4829 Nov 2018 #24
I'm so disappointed we have yet another pain med Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #26

sandensea

(21,655 posts)
3. The same outfit spent $500k to defeat legalized pot
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:54 PM
Nov 2018

Fentanyl is 50 times more addictive than heroin.

Its most famous (but by no means only) victims, of course, were Prince and Tom Petty.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. Gee I wonder why?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:38 PM
Nov 2018


See kids this is why a harmless herb is still illegal and can get you jail time and a record!

kysrsoze

(6,022 posts)
4. Why the fuck would you need an opioid 5 to 10 times more powerful than Fentanyl?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:00 PM
Nov 2018

Fentanyl itself is already WAY too powerful. And of course, people could just do marijuana instead... with no risk of addiction or death.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
5. Bc they are drug dealers, protected by corporate laws.
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:23 PM
Nov 2018

CORPORATE REFORM-2019
Just what the world needs...more pain killer pills.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
20. Because there are cancer patients who have pain fentanyl won't relieve
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:14 PM
Nov 2018

Kysrsoze, once you've gotten to the point where fentanyl isn't doing it for you, marijuana won't do shit. It would be like giving aspirin to someone who just chopped off his leg with a chain saw.

In a broad spectrum of drugs that range from ones that relieve mild suffering (where aspirin is fine) to ones that make the kind of pain you wouldn't wish on anyone but Donald Trump bearable, marijuana has A place but not the ONLY place.

Archae

(46,343 posts)
7. This was posted here before...
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 07:10 PM
Nov 2018

The drug is for acute pain sufferers, administered in cancer centers and places where patients go to die.

It has to be administered by a nurse or doctor.

I wish we would not automatically go to "We're all gonna die!" mode every time a new drug or farm chemical comes out.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
11. The fear that quantities might be diverted to the streets
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:24 PM
Nov 2018

is not unreasonable. I hope controls are up to the task.

Archae

(46,343 posts)
12. I think they will be, actually taking this drug involves a lot of effort.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:30 AM
Nov 2018

Mostly on the part of the nurse or doctor, they have to use an applicator, anyone who tries to handle the drug will probably get a fatal overdose.

So on the streets...

(Pusher hands an addict a little pill)

Both of them die of overdose through their skin.

atreides1

(16,091 posts)
13. But controls don't always work, do they?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:25 AM
Nov 2018

We can't assume that there won't be a break in that wall! At some point this drug will get on the street...because most of them do!

So on the streets...

(Pusher with small plastic bag and wearing gloves, hands an addict a little pill)

Pusher collects the money and walks on, addict dies of overdose soon after taking pill!!!


Archae

(46,343 posts)
14. Of course.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:29 AM
Nov 2018

Addicts have shown they will do anything, for a fix.

Even sell their babies and steal from their parents.

So do we ban anything an addict might abuse?

SKKY

(11,818 posts)
16. I agree with you in principle regarding the hyperbolic response...
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:36 AM
Nov 2018

...but based on my experience, and from some of the things I've seen, once that genie is out of the bottle, it doesn't go back. Actually to the contrary, it tends to seriously screw things up.

Aristus

(66,446 posts)
17. At least it won't be available for prescribing in the outpatient setting.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:45 AM
Nov 2018

Just what an overworked clinician needs: another powerful drug about which patients will insist: "But Dsuvia is the only thing that works!"

I became a Physician Assistant to help heal people. More and more, it seems I'm just trying to stem the headlong rush of patients too eager to kill themselves by inappropriate use of medication.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. chalk one up to saturated advertising of drugs.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:56 AM
Nov 2018

I was astounded at the amount of prescription advertising I've seen. Time was that was not allowed, and for good reason.
Cigarette advertising is not allowed anymore, but some medicines equally as addictive are.

imavoter

(646 posts)
27. Some people actually need narcotic for pain relief
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 10:05 AM
Nov 2018

Not everyone is an addict...the need for pain control is real.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. I agree. and a very tiny pill (like this new one) was needed.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:06 AM
Nov 2018

a lot harder to make "dosage mistakes" with a pill.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
19. We are going to legalize MJ in MI.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:46 PM
Nov 2018

I plan to use MJ as my arthritis gets worse. Screw NSAIDS and opioids.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
28. Sites like leafly dot com do good reviews of the effects of strains of weed.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 12:25 PM
Nov 2018

Including pain control.

I really like that legal weed is sold with so much information about the strains, both THC level and medicinal properties.

Now that it has reached tipping point of legal states, companies are racing to jump on the lucrative bandwagon, which will, in turn, put pressure on more states to legalize it. (looking at YOU, Alabama)

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
22. Fentanyl has a pretty bad rap now.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:38 AM
Nov 2018

Here's a new drug, that probably costs a lot more and could be used instead.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
26. I'm so disappointed we have yet another pain med
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 09:53 AM
Nov 2018

but no new antibiotic push. I've heard we havent had new antibiotics in many years, bc they don't pay the bills.
yet, hysteria about majijuana as a pain killer. It's just corporate America running our lives in yet another venue.
These will be used as recreational. bc. they always are. People will die.
That from the group that hides behind pro-life. Groan.

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