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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:27 AM Nov 2018

James 'Whitey' Bulger's fatal beating: 'He was unrecognizable'

Source: The Boston Globe




By Katharine Q. Seelye, William K. Rashbaum and Danielle Ivory NEW YORK TIMES NOVEMBER 01, 2018

The inmates who killed James “Whitey” Bulger, Boston’s notorious crime boss, deliberately moved out of view of surveillance cameras in a West Virginia prison before pummeling him with a padlock that was stuffed inside a sock, law enforcement officials said Wednesday, as investigations began into how such a murder could have taken place in a supposedly secure facility.

Despite the attackers’ efforts to hide, officials said, cameras caught video images of at least two inmates rolling Bulger, 89, who was in a wheelchair, into a corner where the attack took place. Bulger was bleeding profusely when he was found by prison authorities at 8:20 Tuesday morning. Guards immediately undertook lifesaving measures, officials said, but he was pronounced dead.

A prison official identified one of the suspects as Fotios “Freddy” Geas, 51, a Mafia hit man from West Springfield, Massachusetts. He is serving a life sentence at the Hazelton penitentiary in West Virginia for the 2003 killing of the leader of the Genovese crime family in Springfield.

Daniel Kelly, who has represented Geas for many years, said in an interview that he had no idea whether his client was involved in killing Bulger, who was an informant for the FBI, a relationship he manipulated as a cover while he betrayed and murdered rival gang members.

Read more: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/10/31/james-whitey-bulger-fatal-beating-was-unrecognizable/aJslZdo66TgaTBQh652VjK/story.html

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James 'Whitey' Bulger's fatal beating: 'He was unrecognizable' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
That's pretty much how he left the people he murdered Siwsan Nov 2018 #1
This Had To Be One LONG Term Beef ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #2
And it sounds like they moved him around, quite a bit Siwsan Nov 2018 #3
My thought was he was left to the wolves by a system that reached the ends if it's ... marble falls Nov 2018 #6
I don't think organized crime Mr.Bill Nov 2018 #5
It really was one of those, 'I'm shocked! Wait, no I'm not!' kind of news stories Siwsan Nov 2018 #8
I'm Sure They Don't ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #10
I read an editorial by the prosecutor who put Geas away. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #15
I'm Sure Having A Hard Time Working Up Sympathy. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #17
I don't profess to be a Mafia expert. That's just what the guy said in his editorial. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #19
Perhaps In Boston, That Was Still The Rule ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #20
He definitely looks like someone who threw himself into his work! Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #29
Yeeeeeeeeeeeah. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #30
He'd been snitching on the Italian mob in Boston for decades. maveric Nov 2018 #21
Yeah, I Read About That ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #24
Yeah Cosmocat Nov 2018 #7
None of his victims lived to be 89 TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #4
Live by the sword... However, I wonder if some palms were greased. CentralMass Nov 2018 #9
LIHOP IADEMO2004 Nov 2018 #11
more likely MIHOP hexola Nov 2018 #12
so it was reported this was the way the mob dealt with those who cooperated with the police... samnsara Nov 2018 #13
..i still think if there will be violence against trump it will be by one of his own kids.. samnsara Nov 2018 #14
I doubt that has anyhing to do with it. CentralMass Nov 2018 #16
Nobody should ever be beaten to death in prison. Coventina Nov 2018 #18
Somebody got paid off...moved and put in the general population...how will people testify Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #22
I agree 100% JonLP24 Nov 2018 #26
I am often embarrassed by our justice system or lack there of. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #31
I agree in principal liberaltrucker Nov 2018 #33
I am against all executions...and it wasn't Karma but corruption that allowed this to happen and it Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #34
Whitey was a vicious thug.... SergeStorms Nov 2018 #23
I don't think they should allow any violence in prison JonLP24 Nov 2018 #25
I agree. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #35
Unrecognizable? aeromanKC Nov 2018 #27
Grim New Details About Whitey Bulger's Death Revealed JonLP24 Nov 2018 #28
Second suspect is Paul DeCologero - he dismembered a teenage girl dalton99a Nov 2018 #32

Siwsan

(26,295 posts)
1. That's pretty much how he left the people he murdered
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:32 AM
Nov 2018

I'm certainly not advocating for beating anyone to death, let alone an 89 year old, wheel chair bound man, but some might think that there is a certain, primitive justice to his end.

ProfessorGAC

(65,205 posts)
2. This Had To Be One LONG Term Beef
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:36 AM
Nov 2018

Bulger has been in jail for a long time. And he was on the run for years before that. Some outfit guys held a grudge for a very long time!

Siwsan

(26,295 posts)
3. And it sounds like they moved him around, quite a bit
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:40 AM
Nov 2018

No doubt he was a high profile, high risk inmate. His work as an FBI informant would seem to be a reason to keep him in protective custody, yet he was in general population. It does kind of smell of a set up.

marble falls

(57,257 posts)
6. My thought was he was left to the wolves by a system that reached the ends if it's ...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:54 AM
Nov 2018

rope with him. He was left to the elements in an institution that been described as having a violence problem.

Siwsan

(26,295 posts)
8. It really was one of those, 'I'm shocked! Wait, no I'm not!' kind of news stories
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:57 AM
Nov 2018

He really was a deeply vile individual.

ProfessorGAC

(65,205 posts)
10. I'm Sure They Don't
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 09:23 AM
Nov 2018

Joe Pistone is still living under an assumed name with the WPP and he WAS an actual FBI agent. Yeah, they don't forget.

Jedi Guy

(3,258 posts)
15. I read an editorial by the prosecutor who put Geas away.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:16 AM
Nov 2018

Apparently he wanted to be a made man, but couldn't because he wasn't Italian. So he settled for being a paid hitman and wanted to build himself a reputation for being vicious and cold-blooded. Now his claim to fame is killing Bulger. He basically stole Bulger's infamy.

He was already in for life without parole, and the death penalty is unlikely to be sought for killing Bulger. That being the case, what did he have to lose? About the worst that'll likely happen to him is being sent to ADX Florence supermax in Colorado.

It's speculation, sure, but at least from an informed source.

ProfessorGAC

(65,205 posts)
17. I'm Sure Having A Hard Time Working Up Sympathy. . .
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:34 AM
Nov 2018

. . .but Bulger, but this guy was 20 years too soon. At least in Chicago, non-italians were "made" all the way back into the 70's.

You make them money, and get a powerful enough crew, they're good with you.

Jedi Guy

(3,258 posts)
19. I don't profess to be a Mafia expert. That's just what the guy said in his editorial.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:21 PM
Nov 2018

Doesn't surprise me that being non-Italian wouldn't be a barrier, given enough money changing hands. In my experience, very few people's principles will hold true when enough money is thrown at them.

That said, I imagine that a non-Italian made man and an Italian made man were treated differently. I'd also be willing to bet that there was a definite glass ceiling in terms of advancement.

ProfessorGAC

(65,205 posts)
20. Perhaps In Boston, That Was Still The Rule
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:24 PM
Nov 2018

It was the policy for a LONG time. That sort of went away during the labor racketeering and drug trade era of the outfit.

But, maybe Boston didn't change their policy until long after NY and Chicago did.

Judi Lynn

(160,631 posts)
29. He definitely looks like someone who threw himself into his work!
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:11 PM
Nov 2018










Thanks for the information on this guy. The country will be a lot safer if he just stays in prison.

Jedi Guy

(3,258 posts)
30. Yeeeeeeeeeeeah.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:55 PM
Nov 2018

I think it's just as well he'll never see the other side of a prison fence for the rest of his life. Sometimes, people just aren't able to live with civil society.

maveric

(16,446 posts)
21. He'd been snitching on the Italian mob in Boston for decades.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:42 PM
Nov 2018

The Anguilo’s and Patriaca’s have long memories for things like this.

ProfessorGAC

(65,205 posts)
24. Yeah, I Read About That
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 03:43 PM
Nov 2018

There was also a documentary i saw on AHC about him. He was quite the scumbag.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
7. Yeah
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:56 AM
Nov 2018

I am not a Vengeance type person, but this guy did far worse to MANY during the course of his life, including people who wore complete innocent. Just seems like justice in some perverse way.

samnsara

(17,636 posts)
13. so it was reported this was the way the mob dealt with those who cooperated with the police...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:10 AM
Nov 2018

...anyone else wonder if his move to this prison was JUST for these optics and maybe trumps message to those Muellers interviewing..? wont be safe in or out of prison if you rat trump out.

samnsara

(17,636 posts)
14. ..i still think if there will be violence against trump it will be by one of his own kids..
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:12 AM
Nov 2018

...or a deplorable.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
18. Nobody should ever be beaten to death in prison.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:00 PM
Nov 2018

Having said that, I'm finding it hard to muster outrage about this.

Reaping what you sow and all that....

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
22. Somebody got paid off...moved and put in the general population...how will people testify
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

if this sort of thing happens...this guy was no loss but he helped put away many other bad guys. They need to investigate and prosecute and do a better job of protecting snitches or their won't be any. I would add that our prisons are disgrace.

liberaltrucker

(9,130 posts)
33. I agree in principal
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 12:26 AM
Nov 2018

Just like I oppose the death penalty in principal.
However, once in a long while, a perpetrator comes along
whose crimes are so heinous, so reprehensible, that karma deals
them justice.

Mr Bulger is a prime example. As was Ted Bundy.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
34. I am against all executions...and it wasn't Karma but corruption that allowed this to happen and it
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 08:29 AM
Nov 2018

hurts us for when this happens again and we need someone to talk in order to stop the next bad guy. If you can't protect people there is no incentive to to turn states evidence.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
23. Whitey was a vicious thug....
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 01:26 PM
Nov 2018

and he was dispatched by another vicious thug. What comes around, goes around. Eventually.

aeromanKC

(3,328 posts)
27. Unrecognizable?
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 06:43 PM
Nov 2018

How do we know its him then..?? What if this is a set up to make us think he's dead. Perhaps he is now in Omaha making donuts?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
28. Grim New Details About Whitey Bulger's Death Revealed
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:01 PM
Nov 2018

But questions continue to mount about why prison officials transferred the mob boss to a veritable lion's den.
By Andy Campbell
11/01/2018 12:16 PM ET

New details are emerging about the death of notorious mob boss Whitey Bulger on Tuesday after he was transferred to the general population of U.S. Penitentiary Hazelton, one of the most dangerous prisons in America.

Bulger ― who ruled Boston’s criminal underground for more than 20 years and stayed on the run for another 16 before his capture ― was reportedly beaten to death within hours of his transfer from a Florida prison to the high-security penitentiary in West Virginia on Tuesday.

Federal Bureau of Prisons officials say one of the weapons used to murder him was a lock in a sock. Bulger was in a wheelchair when “several potential suspects” beat him to death, officials told NBC. The lock in a sock is a particularly grisly method, which involves a lock placed in a sock and swung like a mace.

So far, federal officials have been dodging questions about who transferred Bulger and why. But reports by HuffPost and The Boston Globe suggest that whoever did so was throwing him into the lion’s den. There were plenty of inmates at Hazelton who hated him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5bdaff87e4b01abe6a1bca89/amp

If it can happen to him it can happen to anybody.

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)
32. Second suspect is Paul DeCologero - he dismembered a teenage girl
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 12:00 AM
Nov 2018
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/11/01/authorities-eye-second-suspect-whitey-bulger-murder/AKb1h4gfb4HttjK0vYPPOK/story.html

Paul J. DeCologero, a member of a notorious North Shore organized crime group that robbed rival drug dealers and dismembered a teenage girl they feared might give them up, has emerged as a second suspect in the murder of Boston mobster James “Whitey” Bulger.

DeCologero is serving a 25-year sentence for racketeering and the conspiracy that led to the 1996 murder of 19-year-old Aislin Silva of Medford. The so-called DeCologero Crew, headed by DeCologero’s uncle, Paul A. DeCologero, cut up and disposed of Silva’s body, which wasn’t found until 2006.

Paul A. DeCologero ordered Silva’s murder after police seized guns that his crew had stashed at Silva’s apartment and he feared she might cooperate with authorities.

Paul J. DeCologero’s role in that conspiracy was to obtain an especially strong strain of heroin that was meant to kill Silva with an overdose. When that plan failed, another member of the crew, Kevin Meuse, killed her by breaking her neck. Members of the crew then dismembered her in a bathtub and disposed of her body in a makeshift grave somewhere in the woods of the North Shore and in a dumpster in Danvers.
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