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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:41 AM Oct 2018

Nancy Pelosi: 'You Will See Evidence' of the Political Climate Calming When Dems Take Back The House

Source: Mediate



by Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Oct 31st, 2018, 12:56 am

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) appeared on The Late Show and discussed the toxic political climate our country is facing.

Stephen Colbert began by pointing out that Pelosi was wearing purple, asking her if that was a “message” she was trying to send out.

“It could be,” Pelosi responded. “It’s about unifying the country. I think it is time to heal.” Pelosi was then asked if she has seen “evidence” that the “temperature” in the country has lowered.

“Well, I think when we win, you will see evidence of that. Because when we do win, we will have, as we open the new Congress- we will honor the vows of our founders: ‘E pluribus unum’, ‘From many one,'” Pelosi told the audience. “Well you couldn’t imagine how many we would be or how different we would be from each other, but they did know that we had to strive for oneness. It’s okay to disagree, a marketplace of ideas, that’s exciting. But it is also important to find solutions that unify and not divide. And that’s what makes a big difference between Democrats and what’s in the White House now.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-pelosi-you-will-see-evidence-of-the-political-climate-calming-when-dems-take-back-the-house/

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Nancy Pelosi: 'You Will See Evidence' of the Political Climate Calming When Dems Take Back The House (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
I admire this statement The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #1
Good statment from the incoming Majority Leader. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2018 #2
90% chance that we'll see it! 7962 Oct 2018 #3
It's a great ideal, but ... Whiskeytide Oct 2018 #4
Before you go calling Nancy Pelosi "naive", you should read this. athena Oct 2018 #18
I was only referring to her comments ... Whiskeytide Oct 2018 #23
Is She Hinting Here That The Dems When Back In Power Won't Initiate A Lot Of..... global1 Oct 2018 #5
Well let's look at her history humbled_opinion Oct 2018 #6
I think it's a good strategy going into the election.... SayItLoud Oct 2018 #11
I think she's merely playing a good strategy LanternWaste Oct 2018 #17
No, she's telling people: VOTE FOR DEMS and things will be better. n/t pnwmom Oct 2018 #20
I hope not BeyondGeography Oct 2018 #7
Boy, is she naive. Firestorm49 Oct 2018 #8
"Naive"? Seriously? athena Oct 2018 #16
Yours is my Halloween Gift of Irony. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #19
She's smart. People are exhausted, fearful, and she's promising better after November 6. pnwmom Oct 2018 #21
I can think of a lot of adjectives to describe Nancy Pelosi.. AZ8theist Oct 2018 #22
If by "calming" she means a relentless, unemotional investigation of Trump and administration Fiendish Thingy Oct 2018 #9
That's what I'm afraid of durablend Oct 2018 #12
It will be status quo. SayItLoud Oct 2018 #10
Calm and civil are not currently in my vocabulary. Hugin Oct 2018 #13
Is she, or does she think...we are that naive? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #14
I believe that to a good extent. News sources, universities, Hortensis Oct 2018 #15

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
4. It's a great ideal, but ...
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:10 AM
Oct 2018

... I hope Nancy isn’t naive enough to think the republicans will go along with that healing initiative. I suspect she isn’t.

If we take back either the house or senate, they will be worse in terms of pulling shit. They thrive on the division.

athena

(4,187 posts)
18. Before you go calling Nancy Pelosi "naive", you should read this.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:35 PM
Oct 2018
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/05/04/nancy-pelosi-is-the-most-effective-member-of-the-resistence/

I argue often with liberals, progressives and varieties of lefty about the Democratic Party’s future. The occasions for the arguments are usually my insistence that party leaders dedicate some time to courting the votes of the white working class. This arouses frequently a predictable response, something to the effect of: If the Democratic Party again panders to bigots, I want nothing to do with it.

My retort is usually something like this: If you think the Democrats are pure of heart, I have a bridge to sell you. President Donald Trump is, as I take delight in repeating as often as I can, a lying, thieving, philandering sadist, and the Democrats do come off as saints by comparison. But let’s not fool ourselves. The people arguing with me about what to do with the white working class are the same people who’d argue, rightly, that soft racism and casual sexism are everywhere, even among the ranks of the Democratic Party.

They are right, and it’s this subliminal bigotry that’s keeping us from seeing what’s happening. Fact is, the Democrats are doing remarkably well, all things considered. They are united. They have blocked Trump where they can. They exploited and exposed his weakness and the disarray of the Republicans to extract major concessions.

But we can’t see this because we are not giving credit to the one person doing the most, and we are not giving her credit, because she’s a woman. That’s what I mean when I say subliminal bigotry is preventing us from seeing. That’s what I mean when I say the Democratic Party is not pure of heart. Our sin is finding us out.

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
23. I was only referring to her comments ...
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 04:16 PM
Oct 2018

... about healing after the election, not Pelosi in general. And I stated that I don't really think she's naive. I respect her, and I'm a fan.

My only point is that we have to stop underestimating the repub leadership's penchant for ratfuckery. They don't want to heal. They don't want a more civil discussion. They want to slap the olive branch from your hand, and create the division that gets them elected (since they can't do it on policy achievements).

I know a lot of nice republican voters. Friends, family and co-workers. I'm cool with trying to make peace with them.

But I really don't know many repub politicians that are not pretty loathsome in general. I'm less and less in a mood to try and appease them. I think NP agrees with me on that, even if she can't publicly state it. jmo.

global1

(25,266 posts)
5. Is She Hinting Here That The Dems When Back In Power Won't Initiate A Lot Of.....
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:36 AM
Oct 2018

committee investigations or testimony? Will we not get the bottom of things because the Dems are going to be civil?

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
6. Well let's look at her history
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:44 AM
Oct 2018

With Bush on his admission of torture she said "First time a sitting President has admitted an impeachable offense".... and then when we took majority in 2006 she promptly took impeachment off the table, it is sad that Democratic politicians are the only ones that play politics fairly, when will we learn ?

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
11. I think it's a good strategy going into the election....
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:47 PM
Oct 2018

Keep the electorate calm, offer hope, get some kind of power then sucker punch the fuck outta the POS never potus and investigate every wart on his political body, and most importantly financial life. Drag that grifter Kushner in front of committee after committee and find out what $ he got for trading American intel to the Middle East? Make their life hell in a civil, committee driven way.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. I think she's merely playing a good strategy
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:34 PM
Oct 2018

I think she's merely playing a good strategy-- a lot of people want a calmer, more serene environment in contrast to the current atmosphere of violence, confusion and fury.

But sure... you can interpret it in such as way as to prophecy what won't happen, as well...

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
8. Boy, is she naive.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:28 AM
Oct 2018

The Buffoon in Chief has already pontificated and to such a degree, promoted national violence at his idiot rallies, not only if rePuglicants lose the mid-terms, but also if his sorry ass doesn’t get re-elected.
For some reason, I don’t see Pelosi or the party singing Kumbaya in the meadows after a win. But, good luck with that anyway. Nice guys finish last.

athena

(4,187 posts)
16. "Naive"? Seriously?
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:33 PM
Oct 2018

You're suggesting that a woman who has led the Democratic Party in the House for over 15 years and has been described as the "most powerful woman in U.S. history"* is "naive"?

I am sick and tired of people using words like "weak" and "naive" to describe our most effective female politicians. News flash: you're not automatically smarter and stronger and wiser than half the population just because you were born with a penis. It is laughable than anyone out there would think they're less "naive" than Nancy Pelosi. I'm sure she could run circles around you if you ever were in a debate with her about what is the best way to lead the Democratic Party.

What is naive is thinking that someone at the level of Nancy Pelosi just says whatever comes into her head. Unlike those who think they're smarter than she is, Nancy Pelosi realizes that a message of unity is the way to turn people out to vote next week in this extremely divisive political environment that Trump and the Republicans have created. Most voters out there want a Congress that gets things done. They crave normalcy. The idea of endless investigations does not motivate the average Democratic voter to take time out of her busy day to stand in line to vote. I am glad that Nancy Pelosi is leading the Democrats, while those who think she's "naive" sit in front of their computer typing stuff no one will read.

* See: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/mar/26/nancy-pelosi-politician-speaker

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. Yours is my Halloween Gift of Irony.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:38 PM
Oct 2018

Calling someone whose experience far outweighs anyone's on this board 'naive' is akin to a fish denying the existence of the very water it experiences daily.

"For some reason, I don’t see..."
My guess: that reason is a lack of relevant knowledge.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
21. She's smart. People are exhausted, fearful, and she's promising better after November 6.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:45 PM
Oct 2018

Assuming the Dems win.

AZ8theist

(5,488 posts)
22. I can think of a lot of adjectives to describe Nancy Pelosi..
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:56 PM
Oct 2018

But "naive" doesn't even crack top 1000.

As a strategy, projecting calm and a ratcheting down of the bigoted rhetoric of the Reich wing in this country, and from it's Imbecilic leader, it is well played to help bring out the vote. Independents and marginally intelligent Republicans may gravitate to this point of view.

But make no mistake, when we take back the House and possibly the Senate, boy oh boy is the shit going to hit the fan come next January.

At a minimum, the House Select Committee on Intelligence chaired by Adam Schiff will re-open the russian probe of Dotards conspiracy to "rig" the election. It will be an actual investigation, not the cover up perpetrated by Nunes.

Other committees will be exposing the entire Dotard crime family daily. Several repukes will resign when their criminality gets exposed.

So if you think we have a constitutional crises now, just wait when we get subpoena power. The reich wing will go bonkers.

I say, "Bring. IT. ON."

Fiendish Thingy

(15,651 posts)
9. If by "calming" she means a relentless, unemotional investigation of Trump and administration
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:48 AM
Oct 2018

Then I'm all for it.

Hopefully it doesn't mean "looking forward, not backwards".

I don't want people to think the Democrats slogan for 2020 is "Keeping our powder dry since December 2000".

durablend

(7,464 posts)
12. That's what I'm afraid of
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 01:35 PM
Oct 2018

Didn't want to say anything because of the "OH SHUTUP YOU'RE DEPRESSING THE TURNOUT!"

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
10. It will be status quo.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:43 PM
Oct 2018

When, if, the voters turn our and actually elect Blue candidates and when/if even the House majority becomes Democratic the RePUBICS will still be screaming their fear mongering. Only time it will become somewhat quiet is when they want to pass some fucked up legislation. Otherwise it will be same ole same ole bullshit imo.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
14. Is she, or does she think...we are that naive?
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:10 PM
Oct 2018

"But it is also important to find solutions that unify and not divide. And that’s what makes a big difference between Democrats and what’s in the White House now.”

So...if we get one more Democrat than Republicans in the House, just the mere presence of a majority of Democrats will magically transform the Republicans left there, many from the tea bagger sweep of moderate Republicans years ago, into willing partners to "heal" the country?

All that and Trump still tweeting madly about the election being rigged. And doubling down on hateful rhetoric.

It takes two to tango. And I desperately fear that this is a signal that Democrats will once again capitulate rather than confront. ie..if your dance partner refuses to even do the tango, because they don' t want to and demand it be a square dance So you concede in order not to start an argument. Then they demand to be the lead. Once again you concede. And then they proceed to step on your toes. But we have to keep our mouths shut and not make a sound. Because WE are so civil and everyone will see that and admire us for it, right? As they chuckle under their breath and give you another heel down hard on your toes.

I really hope its just a ploy. And impeachment hearings will begin right after they are sworn in with a majority. As well as other investigations like Nunes. But seriously, based on past history of Pelosi, and the party brass, when I hear these kinds of statements, I don't hold out much hope for that now.

For the sake of the country get out of this bubble you've created and start fighting for the country. If there was any time to go on the offensive it is now.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. I believe that to a good extent. News sources, universities,
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:30 PM
Oct 2018

authors, think tanks are all AFRAID of what the powers on the right can and will do to them if they take them on too boldly. More vulnerable ones destroyed outright, serious to severe profit losses for others. So almost all criticism is wrapped up on false claims that Democrats are as, or practically as, bad in our way. They all know better.

We're incredibly different from the thugs who have control now. They grow their power BY growing fear, insecurity, divisions, animosity. We are believers in and protectors of government of, by and for the people.

If the right hadn't stolen the presidency, at least one house of congress in 2016, most of the other, and some state governments, in spite of their out-of-power plottings, Hillary's two terms following Obama's two would have done much to restore feelings of security and faith in what the future holds. And still MUST.

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