Graham to introduce legislation ending birthright citizenship

[demmiblue]

Source: The Hill

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said on Tuesday that he will introduce legislation to end birthright citizenship after President Trump suggested he could do so through an executive order.

"Finally, a president willing to take on this absurd policy of birthright citizenship. I’ve always supported comprehensive immigration reform – and at the same time – the elimination of birthright citizenship," Graham said in a string of tweets.

He added that he plans "to introduce legislation along the same lines as the proposed executive order" from Trump. Congress is out of session until Nov. 13.

His announcement comes hours after Trump said in an interview released Tuesday that he will sign an executive order intended to end the practice of birthright citizenship.

Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/413832-graham-to-introduce-legislation-ending-birthright-citizenship?__twitter_impression=true

[Va Lefty]

1. Lap dog Lindsey wants a treat

[riversedge]

18. Lindsey wants more golf days with dumpy trump 🌊🌊🌊 #FlipItBlue #BlueWave2018 #VoteThemOUT

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Well looks like they found a way to get the news cycle back.

[DownriverDem]

12. Today

When trump is protested big time in Pittsburg, it will be bigly.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. Hopefully my fellow Pennsylvanians on the other side of the state will come out in force!

[muntrv]

3. 14th Amendment, Lindsey.

[Sneederbunk]

5. A constitutional amendment is required.

[Rebl2]

26. Exactly

Next thing you know he’ll try to get rid of the amendment that limits the number of terms a President can serve.

[jmowreader]

61. Well now, that could be entertaining

10:00 am: “Good morning. I am Senator Lindsay Graham, and I have just repealed by simple legislation presidential term limits. Now Trump can be President forever!”

10:01 am: “Good morning. I am President Barack Obama and I’m running for re-election.”

[olegramps]

13. This announcement was made from under the desk of the West Wing as the Faker smiled for the cameras.

[BigmanPigman]

37. You nailed it.

[obamanut2012]

45. Can we stop with the "Graham is gay so he sucks Trump's dick"

Comments? They have no place on this site.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

59. Okay, how's this: "Graham's from the South and wants blacks

to go back to being slaves without citizenship rights."

It's just as wrong to generalize about a group of people because of where they live, but I know from my experience of living in South Carolina that a lot of people there cannot let go of the Civil War, or as they call it, "The War of Northern Aggression."

[dflprincess]

57. The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 and ensured that the slaves

freed at the end of the Civil War would be citizens. (An 1898 Supreme Court case expanded it to any child born in the U.S.)

Probably why Lindsey doesn't like it.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. They plan to end all citizenship and deport us all

[left-of-center2012]

6. When & why did Graham go from Trump critic to lapdog?

[JaneQPublic]

8. When Trump showed Lindsey the file.

The file Trump got from Putin with info with which to blackmail Graham.

My guess it was during their first golf outing.

[alwaysinasnit]

35. +1000

[tammywammy]

62. When McCain died. n/t

[JaneQPublic]

7. I'm old enough to remember when the GOPers said they must defend the Constitution...

...from Pres. Obama, who -- they said -- wanted tear it apart piece by piece.

Just one of a million examples of their side accusing our side of doing the very thing they plan to do.

[pangaia]

52. Humm.. that's not really very old.

I remember Truman deciding to drop the atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki....

[Jake Stern]

9. Think about it this way

If Trump & Congress can unilaterally change the meaning of a constitutional amendment it sets a precedent for a future president & congress to do the same to the Second Amendment.

[The Liberal Lion]

17. You are optimistic that there will ever be another president. Better you think "1st citizen"

now instead of President. At the rate we are going I don't see how that's going to happen. The republic has already fallen. Obama was the last President.

[sakabatou]

10. These idiots seem to think they don't need a constitutional convention

[The Liberal Lion]

19. They know they don't have to play by the rules

Yet we keep playing by them.

[MiniMe]

11. Is he doing it as a constitutional amendment?

He is a lawyer for God's sake, he knows you can't just write legislation to change the Constitution without it being a Constitutional amendment.

[CTyankee]

63. I wondered the same thing...

I thought maybe I got my history lesson back in school about amending the Constitution wrong.

Are they gonna try the ERA type of thing?

[The Liberal Lion]

14. These people are true pieces of shit

The GOP has officially abandoned the tome of fiscal responsibility and fidelity to the Constitution. They are outright frauds!
They themselves no longer deserve the privileges and rights that belong to American citizens.

[George II]

15. Of course trump had to lie about what other countries do in order to feebly justify....

....his racist immigration and/or citizenship policies.

He's against what his grandfather AND his mother did.

[matt819]

16. It's early days yet

But you can be pretty sure that research is under way now to identify family members of republicans who have benefited in some way from birthright citizenship. Maybe spouses of republicans and their family members who were born in the US to foreign parents.

What's next? Denying citizenship to Americans born to American parents abroad? Denying birthright citizenship only to selected groups?

And, to the extent that this heads to the Supreme Court, something tells me that the fix is already in.

[LiberalFighter]

25. Yep! Ted Cruz born in Canada.

Marco Rubio? Parents from Cuba.

[defacto7]

20. I don't think the president or congress can do this.

But how much can they get away with before it catches up with them? How much damage can they do? What's the real game here?

[sinkingfeeling]

21. And then what? Seems to me it would have to be a constitutional amendment

to abolish the clause of the 14th.

[Racerdog1]

23. Aunt Lindsey

Still on his knees and wiping his chin.

[demmiblue]

34. Why can't we have a thread about Lindsey Graham without the homophobic comments?

[7962]

42. IKR? Apparently it's fine when its a republican.

No hypocrisy here, right?

[Haggis for Breakfast]

44. It's not homophobia

It goes straight to the question of how far is Graham willing to go to "suck up" to trmp ? A common expression. Doesn't need to be seen as homophobic.

I was about to post this: Hey Lindsey, just how far up trmp's ass is your tongue.

In the follow up to Guy Ritchey's "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrel," movie, titled, "Snatch" (about a diamond heist,by the way, lest anyone think I'm talking about female anatomy - see, context is everything), the character Brick Top accuses a sycophant of sucking up by asking him to "Pull your tongue out of my asshole." No homophobia implied. Just a turn of a phrase that people use all the time. Nothing sexual to it at all.

Get a grip.

[obamanut2012]

47. Yes, it is -- and to say it isn;t sexual, too???

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

Just stop.

[7962]

49. Man, you're trying really hard on that one! Failing, but a good try.

Anytime you're talking about "on your knees" EVERYONE knows what that refers to. And you're not "wiping your chin" if your heads up someones ass. Also referring to Graham as a FEMALE. I seem to remember Trump being blasted for using the same expression?
The fact that nobody alerted this just proves my point of the hypocrisy we have here.

[obamanut2012]

46. "Lindsey is gay so sucks Trump's dick"

Upthread -- I agree, all these comments are so homophobic, and I am tired of it.

[athena]

60. Thanks for telling us how degrading you think it is to be female.

I never cease to be amazed by the levels of sexism and misogyny that DUers consider acceptable.

[jmbar2]

24. This may be a prelude to a rightwing movement to call a new constitutional convention

From Common Cause:

[A well-funded, highly coordinated national effort is underway to call a constitutional convention, under Article V of the U.S. Constitution, for the first time in history. The result of such a convention could be a complete overhaul of the Constitution and supporters of the convention are dangerously close to succeeding. With special interest groups gaining more momentum, conservative advocates are just six states short of reaching the constitutionally-required 34-state goal. They are targeting Republican-controlled legislatures in 2018 and are within striking distance.]

If you haven't heard of this before, it is truly scary. Well-funded, stealthy initiative from the Kochtopus. Keep your eyes on this little snake slithering around in the shadows.

https://www.commoncause.org/resource/u-s-constitution-threatened-as-article-v-convention-movement-nears-success/

[lunasun]

28. They are trying to change the legislature in Illinois but I think it will remain D controlled

I've posted about a con con previously, and how this is one of the Koch's / RW goals for years now to have a US con con

[Jake Stern]

30. They need 2/3 of the states to call a convention

But anything done there still has to be ratified by 3/4 (38) of the states which means at least a few blue states will have to go along which I don't see them doing with some of the extreme proposals.

I wish folks would stop the whole Chicken Little routine concerning these conventions.

[jmbar2]

32. I agree that there are considerable obstacles to such a convention...

...but I think talk of changing the 14th Amendment may be a trial balloon by the Republicans who'd like to go there.

[7962]

43. I dont get it either. It could pass depending on what's included, but there's no panic needed.

If it's as simple as saying you're only considered a citizen if born to legal residents, I really dont have a problem with that. We all know of the "Birth tourism" that goes on, especially from China. The talk about Cruz & Rubio; well they would be legal because their parents were legal residents.
But still, as you point out, it takes a lot to pass an amendment or change one.

[jberryhill]

54. Oh, it's that simple? Would you mind a few questions?

“If it's as simple as saying you're only considered a citizen if born to legal residents”

By “born to legal residents”, do you mean BOTH parents has to be a legal resident? Or do you mean just one parent.

And if you mean just one parent, then you mean the mother, right? After all, she’s the only one who would have to show up at a medical facility, and I’m not aware of any medical facility which does not take the mother’s word on who is the father, if known.

So every hospital is going to have someone in charge of checking whether mothers are or are not legal US residents, is that correct?

If the mother identifies a father who is not present, then how is the legal resident status of that father determined?

[7962]

58. Its not like citizenships has to be conferred immediately upon birth.

Hell, they dont even give you a BC until the parents decide on a name.
You don't think verification would be a pretty easy task?
If you are an immigrant here legally you'd be able to show that easily. Just like when applying for a job or benefits. They damn sure get all your insurance info while you're there!
And when I say "legal residents", I'm including those who are not yet citizens, but are here legally. Which wold also be very easy to show. And yes, I think one legal citizen parent would be allowed, as I believe it is today if you're born outside the US.
I do wonder about your point on the father; a hospital will let the mother just name the father without ANY agreement or proof? So a woman could give birth and say I was the father and I wouldn't even KNOW it? Seriously, I ask because I have no idea. If thats the way it is, I wonder how often someone is named as father who really ISNT?

[Thekaspervote]

41. With 8 governships about to flip from red to blue, a CC is not as looming a threat

[PA Democrat]

27. What a shameless bootlicker.

[dalton99a]

31. Lindsey, next time you wipe Trump's ass, make sure there is no toilet paper hanging out

[cstanleytech]

33. Nice dog whistle before the election Lindsey but we all know its doomed to failure as

the Constitution specifically denies Congress the ability to create any law that does what you are proposing and the only way to do it would be to amend the Constitution.

[NCjack]

36. Looks like MAGAprez and Jared have finally gotten all

of their Russian buddies American citizenship for their tourist babies born here. Time to close that gate.

[Marthe48]

38. Hope the other countries have enough room for all of us

and hope this jerkwater has a plan for the orderly exodus of all the white people from the U.S.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

39. Did someone make fun of Lindsey again?

He's trying to show how tough he is.

[Nitram]

40. Republicans have read the writing on the wall and they are desperate.

That's good, because desperation will lose votes and demoralize supporters.

[Maxheader]

48. Whats that on your lips grammy...shoe polish?

jerk

[UpInArms]

50. Dear gawd

I guess having Putin’s hand up trump’s ass and trump’s hand up Graham’s ass has rendered all of these fools just stumbling over themselves to destroy our country.

[pangaia]

51. Just showing again, and even more frequently now that somebody has him by the balls,

what a hate-filled, sick, little shit fuck of a human being he has always been.

[beachbum bob]

53. He needs to review law, as this must be done as per constitutional

requirement...just another GOP wasteful stunt

[DonCoquixote]

55. this is why when we praise a gop just for hating DT

we risk a lot. This person rode the modrrate gravy train for years, but he may very well empower a president to change the constitutions at a whim.

[MurrayDelph]

56. He knows it isn't legal, nor would it pass if it was

It's just Lindsey's way of asking Trump

"Can I please, Please, PLEASE be the next Attorney General after you fire Sessions next Wednesday?