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PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:56 AM Oct 2018

4 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue

Source: KDKA-CBS Pittsburgh

SQUIRREL HILL, Pa. (KDKA) – Police from across the city of Pittsburgh are responding to an active shooting situation at the The Tree of Life Synagogue in Squirrel Hill.

KDKA’s Andy Sheehan reports that at least four people have been confirmed dead, possibly as many as 7 to 8 could be dead.

Police have requested that residents stay inside their home as they have exchanged gun fire with a suspected gunman.

The Synagogue was reportedly full of people for a Saturday service and police say they’ve received several calls from people barricaded inside the Synagogue.

Read more: https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/?fbclid=IwAR0t196UrnbKq56l5leGXBBk28PGJx4shsG047NHp17Dlf8Zfu-9gsBHiY4



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4 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue (Original Post) PunkinPi Oct 2018 OP
Holy shit, it's starting... Aristus Oct 2018 #1
... hlthe2b Oct 2018 #3
Vote, our lives depend on it. nt PunkinPi Oct 2018 #5
I did. Aristus Oct 2018 #6
Awesome, wish we had early voting here in VA, but I'm so ready. nt PunkinPi Oct 2018 #9
Go for it. Aristus Oct 2018 #10
Thanks to you both! PunkinPi Oct 2018 #14
I hand delivered my mail ballot to the Santa Fe County Clerk BadgerMom Oct 2018 #42
You can vote early absentee in person in VA, PunkinPi. JudyM Oct 2018 #49
Thanks, JudyM. PunkinPi Oct 2018 #54
? You can still vote early in person. No advance application deadline. Through Nov 3. JudyM Oct 2018 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #25
I sent in my absentee ballot 10 days ago pazzyanne Oct 2018 #65
Kudos pazzyanne! PunkinPi Oct 2018 #66
My daughter is getting staff alerts from Pitt 3 officers shot Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #21
Do you know True Blue American Oct 2018 #57
All the loonies bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #27
With the head loony pushing them along. True Blue American Oct 2018 #58
Will Jared and Ivanka have a conversation with DURHAM D Oct 2018 #2
They are Orthodox Jews Pity Puddles Oct 2018 #11
I don't think Jarvanka are following any of our rules. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2018 #50
Sounds like an opportunity for them to create their own religion. Ilsa Oct 2018 #68
More importantly they ignore all the moral concepts -- it is not kosher to be karynnj Oct 2018 #78
They're only worth two votes - one each (if even that) bitterross Oct 2018 #51
Chaos mode and right before the election. jalan48 Oct 2018 #4
Noooooooooo............ k8conant Oct 2018 #7
Any word on who the murderer might be MontanaMama Oct 2018 #8
We are absolutely certain it wasn't a Guatemalan child........ getagrip_already Oct 2018 #29
Thanks. MontanaMama Oct 2018 #35
Updates by Evan Rosenfeld (Twitter thread) PunkinPi Oct 2018 #12
While the nation is terrified of Islamic extremists, the real terrorists are waging a campaign to Oneironaut Oct 2018 #13
Eight people have been confirmed dead. Donkees Oct 2018 #15
OMG! This is terrible! smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #77
Fatalities now total 11 Donkees Oct 2018 #80
OMG! The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #16
I'm so sorry. My mom lived in Pittsburgh for a time and she always loved the city... PunkinPi Oct 2018 #19
I hang out in the neighborhood a lot. a la izquierda Oct 2018 #44
UPDATE - shooter in custody, per MSNBC nt PunkinPi Oct 2018 #17
8 dead ebbie15644 Oct 2018 #18
Holy shit... PunkinPi Oct 2018 #20
MAGASHOOTER. Silver1 Oct 2018 #24
We need to use that tag for him. Duppers Oct 2018 #75
Oh I think the MAGA people are stuck with this trend. As they should be. Silver1 Oct 2018 #81
MAGAShooter blamed Jewish immigration resettlement for caravan. Duppers Oct 2018 #74
Wonder if Trump thinks there were some "fine people" among the shooters Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #22
MSNBC is drawing a direct line to trump..... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #32
My thoughts exactly. benfranklin1776 Oct 2018 #46
Yes yes yes Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #79
My kid texted me a bit ago to tell me he was sheltering in place MissB Oct 2018 #23
My son went to Pitt for under and grad. Graduated in 2017 bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #28
I'm glad that he's ok. yardwork Oct 2018 #34
More violence duforsure Oct 2018 #26
8 dead, shooter in custody DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #30
Heavy.com reporting shooter is white male bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #31
Updates found here... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #33
So sad. That synagogue is a historic landmark, understatedly beautiful. eppur_se_muova Oct 2018 #36
Media has confirmed the white male shooter is not a terrorist IronLionZion Oct 2018 #37
Yeah, I find it ironic watoos Oct 2018 #41
Two very different things with two very different standards. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #89
Not a terrorist? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #48
Hard to believe... Harker Oct 2018 #64
White male shooters can't be terrorists IronLionZion Oct 2018 #71
Needs a political motive to be a terrorist. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #90
They all should be taken alive. AllyCat Oct 2018 #67
Trump did tell his followers to embrace the word Nationalist - and they are. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #38
Yep, showed up on cue. PunkinPi Oct 2018 #39
from dispatch radio... officers talking about the shooter lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #40
Awful oberliner Oct 2018 #43
Horrifying but not shocked. BeckyDem Oct 2018 #45
UPDATE: Suspect's name is "Rob Bowers" brooklynite Oct 2018 #47
Another MAGAmaniac inspired by his leader to kill. benfranklin1776 Oct 2018 #52
Sounds like the MAGAbomber's profile. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #55
Reportedly the shooter also believes DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #72
I don't think Trump expected this; watoos Oct 2018 #53
Trump's response to this is that we "need to toughen our death penalty laws." SunSeeker Oct 2018 #59
Yeah, they love the death penalty. Jedi Guy Oct 2018 #82
That ought to rate firstwife Oct 2018 #56
Our country is going down the road to hell. milestogo Oct 2018 #60
This is just the opening act, I think. Jedi Guy Oct 2018 #83
I don't like to stand in line . . . Roadside Attraction Oct 2018 #62
I wish I did not agree True Blue American Oct 2018 #69
We'll hire a gardener to go pour horse piss on his grave every morning. Ilsa Oct 2018 #70
Mid-holiday for me, so much for wishing one day without some nauseating news lambchopp59 Oct 2018 #63
We don't even get to recover from the MAGAbomber murielm99 Oct 2018 #73
10 now: demmiblue Oct 2018 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #84
What is the best way to fight antisemitism? oberliner Oct 2018 #86
Why did you overlook the many threads expressing empathy for Jews? Kaleva Oct 2018 #87
Welcome to DU, jory DesertRat Oct 2018 #88
OUR PRESIDENT IS RADICALIZING IDIOTS. truthisfreedom Oct 2018 #85

Aristus

(66,386 posts)
10. Go for it.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:13 AM
Oct 2018

Here in Pierce Co. Washington, it's actually vote-by-mail, but same thing, really.

I prepared my ballot and Mrs. Aristus' ballot and put them in the ballot drop-box a full week before the election.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
42. I hand delivered my mail ballot to the Santa Fe County Clerk
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:22 PM
Oct 2018

on the first day of early voting a couple of weeks ago. The place was packed. My heart swelled.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
49. You can vote early absentee in person in VA, PunkinPi.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:37 PM
Oct 2018

Need to fall within one of the accepted justifications, but even going shopping in the next county over is legitimate.

1D Personal business or vacation outside County/City of residence on Election Day

https://www.elections.virginia.gov/casting-a-ballot/absentee-voting/index.html

I’m going to be volunteering in the next county over on Election Day, so I voted last week, felt great!

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
54. Thanks, JudyM.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:51 PM
Oct 2018

I did know about absentee voting, but I missed the deadline to apply. No worries, as I do like doing in person. And, thanks for working the polls!

Response to Aristus (Reply #6)

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
65. I sent in my absentee ballot 10 days ago
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:26 PM
Oct 2018

and have checked on its progress. It has been accepted and is being counted!

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
57. Do you know
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:58 PM
Oct 2018

What the head loony said?

Would not have happened if they had an amed guard. He also said it was not because of guns!

He is the most revolting man ever in Politics and I thought McConnell was bad.

bucolic_frolic

(43,177 posts)
27. All the loonies
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:42 AM
Oct 2018

are going to figure, it's now or never. The first is like a signal to them, and off they go.

 

Pity Puddles

(98 posts)
11. They are Orthodox Jews
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:15 AM
Oct 2018

The shul where the shooting occurred is Conservative (a lot more flexible than Orthodox)... They may not care as they are "inferior" to them.

Just sayin' from an ex-Ortho Jew

However, Jarvanka aren't following the strict rules of Shabbat or any Jewish holiday.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
50. I don't think Jarvanka are following any of our rules.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:42 PM
Oct 2018

Not that I am anywhere near perfect (nor do I claim to be), but it seems Jarvanka are Jews when it is convenient for them to be so. At other (most) times they are simply grifters.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
68. Sounds like an opportunity for them to create their own religion.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:40 PM
Oct 2018

If they don't fit in with any sect, build your own. Services once a month. Serve moo-shu pork at the Seder dinner. Move Hannukah to December 24, every year. That's a long, generous minor holiday. Ivanka could dismiss Yom Kippur because, like her daddy, what does she have to atone for?

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
51. They're only worth two votes - one each (if even that)
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:43 PM
Oct 2018

The MAGAterrorists are worth a lot more votes.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
8. Any word on who the murderer might be
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:10 AM
Oct 2018

or his/her hat color of choice? Lordy I hope these kooks don’t try to outdo each other. Stay strong, Pittsburgh.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
29. We are absolutely certain it wasn't a Guatemalan child........
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:50 AM
Oct 2018

Police haave identified him only as wounded and in custody.

Witnesses said he was yelling anti-semitic slogans as he was shooting.

No word on the color of his hat. Shooter used an AR style weapon.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
35. Thanks.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:00 PM
Oct 2018

Turning on the news. It’ll be interesting to see who this man is. I am serious when I say I am fearful that the red hats will really try to outdo each other. This is tragic...as they all are.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
13. While the nation is terrified of Islamic extremists, the real terrorists are waging a campaign to
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:18 AM
Oct 2018

kill us all. Who needs Al Qaeda when you have The Proud Boys?

Donkees

(31,417 posts)
15. Eight people have been confirmed dead.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:24 AM
Oct 2018

KDKA’s Andy Sheehan reports that at eight people have been confirmed dead. Other have been shot but we don’t know the extent of their injuries.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
77. OMG! This is terrible!
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:17 PM
Oct 2018

I have been watching movies all day just to give my head a rest and I log on and this is the first thing I see. WTF! Can't we go one day without some major horror in Trump World? This is just sick and unacceptable! When are the American people going to say enough!

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
16. OMG!
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:27 AM
Oct 2018

Just last week I was right in the same spot. I'm originally from Pittsburgh living now in Florida. I was there to see my hometown one last time before I leave the country. I was thinking while I was in Pittsburgh that compared to Florida things are much more calm. The divisions I see here in Florida I just didn't see in Pittsburgh. I experienced a level of comfort in Pittsburgh that I just can't get to here in Florida. I'm truly saddened.

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
19. I'm so sorry. My mom lived in Pittsburgh for a time and she always loved the city...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:30 AM
Oct 2018

she mentioned Squirrel Hill with fond memories.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
44. I hang out in the neighborhood a lot.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:27 PM
Oct 2018

I live in Morgantown, WV and this is a cool, close spot. I am so devastated for the community.

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
20. Holy shit...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:34 AM
Oct 2018



Steve Herman
?Verified account @W7VOA

"All these Jews need to die," suspect tells police on scene at Pittsburgh synagogue shooting.
11:10 AM - 27 Oct 2018

Silver1

(721 posts)
81. Oh I think the MAGA people are stuck with this trend. As they should be.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 04:44 PM
Oct 2018

And Trump won't be able to dismiss it. This isn't going to wash off so easily.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
74. MAGAShooter blamed Jewish immigration resettlement for caravan.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:37 PM
Oct 2018

According to another DU thread:

"alleged suspect had post 2hrs ago blaming jewish immigration resettlement org for caravan, “likes to bring invaders in that kill our people”

11:50 AM - Oct 27, 2018

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211330040






 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
22. Wonder if Trump thinks there were some "fine people" among the shooters
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:38 AM
Oct 2018

Motherfucker is Responsible for this.

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
46. My thoughts exactly.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:28 PM
Oct 2018

Words have consequences and last night Mango Mussolini again boasted of being a Nationalist which is code for white supremacist sympathizer. Fucker. Blood is on his hands. Vote as our survival depends on it.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
23. My kid texted me a bit ago to tell me he was sheltering in place
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:38 AM
Oct 2018

He lives in the neighborhood (Pitt student). Horrible shooting.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
28. My son went to Pitt for under and grad. Graduated in 2017
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:49 AM
Oct 2018

Squirrel Hill is a beautiful neighborhood with good and kind people. My heart is breaking.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
26. More violence
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:40 AM
Oct 2018

While the white nationalists in control do more to incite others claiming themselves as victims like trump has done. .Another day more crimes of hate , a white nationalist agenda being used against us all now , with the president and his supporters in Congress blaming others for their actions and lies, and allowing him to weaponize his and them their positions with. Until they are out of office , and behind bars this will continue, and will get a lot worse. That's what trump and putin wants.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
30. 8 dead, shooter in custody
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:53 AM
Oct 2018

Andy Sheehan, KDKA reporter who lives near the synagogue, has been doing yeoman reporting.

The latest is 8 dead, plus more injured. 3 cops shot, but no reports the injuries are life-threatening.

The shooter is in custody and has given police his name although the name given isn't confirmed to be that of the shooter. Parishoners reported the shooter entered the synagogue shouting anti-semetic things such as "all Jews must die". The shooter was reportedly armed with an AK-47 and 2 handguns.

In addition to sabbath services, there was also a bris ceremony being conducted.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
31. Heavy.com reporting shooter is white male
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:54 AM
Oct 2018

There are more people wounded and two officers were shot, reported CBS Pittsburgh, adding that the suspect is a white male who was crawling and wounded. A Saturday service was underway at the synagogue when the mass shooting occurred.

Suspect talking about all these Jews need to die. We’re still communicating with him,” said one officer on the dispatch audio. A short time later, another officer followed up with a similar disturbing comment.

“The suspect is talking about killing Jews. He doesn’t want any of them to live,” said another officer. One officer said the shooter claimed to be heading to his vehicle when he “engaged officers responding.”


https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/squirrel-hill-active-shooter-synagogue-pittsburgh/

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
33. Updates found here...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:56 AM
Oct 2018
'Multiple casualties,' some fatalities in Squirrel Hill synagogue shooting
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

localnews@post-gazette.com
Oct 27, 2018 10:29 AM

Link: http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2018/10/27/Police-responding-to-incident-in-Squirrel-Hill/stories/201810270069

(snip)
Three officers have been shot, multiple people wounded and some killed in a shooting at Tree of Life Congregation in Squirrel Hill Saturday morning.

The shooter is in custody, Pittsburgh Police report. “There are multiple casualties. Neighbors are advised to shelter in place and stay in their homes and lock their doors,” Pittsburgh Police Cmdr. Jason Lando said.

.......... ............

eppur_se_muova

(36,267 posts)
36. So sad. That synagogue is a historic landmark, understatedly beautiful.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:00 PM
Oct 2018

I used to walk past there occasionally on my walks around Pitt/CMU campuses. So tragic for these victims and this country that we have a pResident who is giving such extremists a sense of justification and even legitimacy.

IronLionZion

(45,451 posts)
37. Media has confirmed the white male shooter is not a terrorist
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:10 PM
Oct 2018

despite screaming "All Jews Must Die".

He was apprehended alive somehow despite shooting at the police. Sounds about white.

Maybe RW media will tell us about mental health issues and how society failed him because he's the real victim here. Or that if a good guy with a gun had been there, it would have been a wild west shootout.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
41. Yeah, I find it ironic
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:21 PM
Oct 2018

that a shooter isn't mentally ill enough to not be allowed to buy a gun, but once he murders people with it he becomes mentally ill.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
89. Two very different things with two very different standards.
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 03:16 AM
Oct 2018

It also frustrates the hell out of the folks working in the court system.

IronLionZion

(45,451 posts)
71. White male shooters can't be terrorists
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:54 PM
Oct 2018

no matter how many innocent people they terrorize. Everyone knows that.

And a white nationalist who murders a lot of innocent Jewish Americans in a synagogue can't be called a Nazi. Liberals are the real nazis for being intolerant of white nationalism.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
67. They all should be taken alive.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:36 PM
Oct 2018

I get your excellent point. The police have the power and training to apprehend people without killing them. It does seem this strategy is not applied to all groups.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
40. from dispatch radio... officers talking about the shooter
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:18 PM
Oct 2018

“Suspect talking about all these Jews need to die. We’re still communicating with him,” said one officer on the dispatch audio. A short time later, another officer followed up with a similar disturbing comment.

“The suspect is talking about killing Jews. He doesn’t want any of them to live,” said another officer. One officer said the shooter claimed to be heading to his vehicle when he “engaged officers responding.”

brooklynite

(94,593 posts)
47. UPDATE: Suspect's name is "Rob Bowers"
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:33 PM
Oct 2018

Social media profile has anti-Semitic and anti-refugee comments

benfranklin1776

(6,448 posts)
52. Another MAGAmaniac inspired by his leader to kill.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:46 PM
Oct 2018

This blood is on Trumps hands. Just last night he again called himself a nationalist sending his love to these psychopathic brown shirt murderous thugs.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
72. Reportedly the shooter also believes
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:02 PM
Oct 2018

Trump is a "globalist", not the "nationalist" he claims to be. But this seems to be targeted at a Jewish refugee resettlement organization perhaps driven by Trump's harping on the "caravan". However, there was a story in the Pgh Post-Gazette a day or so ago about Pgh shutting down its refugee resettlement program due to dropping numbers and naming a local Jewish organization as one of the organizations that would pick up the slack.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2018/10/24/Pittsburgh-refugees-Trump-Northern-Area-Multi-Service-Center-NAMS-Jewish-Family-JFCS-AJAPO/stories/201810240127

The two remaining refugee resettlement agencies in Pittsburgh are Jewish Family and Community Services (JFCS), based in Squirrel Hill, and the Acculturation for Justice, Access and Peace Outreach (AJAPO), based in the Hill District.
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
53. I don't think Trump expected this;
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

I mean when he said he would pay for the legal fees that was before his Charitable Foundation came under investigation. He certainly isn't going to pay for strangers legal fees with his own money even if they vote for him.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
59. Trump's response to this is that we "need to toughen our death penalty laws."
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:05 PM
Oct 2018

It's the standard right wing talking point after a mass shooting.

So no, it does not look like he's paying legal fees, or taking responsibility.

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
82. Yeah, they love the death penalty.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 04:59 PM
Oct 2018

Of course, when one points out that it's been proven over and over again that it has no deterrent effect on crime and is actually more of a resource drain than life in prison without parole, it just sails right past their little pointed heads. When one points out that innocent people could be (and have been) executed, they just shrug. Gotta break some eggs to make those omelettes, yanno.

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
83. This is just the opening act, I think.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 05:02 PM
Oct 2018

When Congress (or at least the House) flips blue, these guys are going to lose their shit even more than they already have. If this is how they're behaving now, it's gonna get really, really ugly after the midterms.

It's heartbreaking that this is where we are in 2018, particularly when one considers what might have been.

 
62. I don't like to stand in line . . .
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:12 PM
Oct 2018

Several people shot to death while worshiping in a synagogue.

And the only thing the asshole who thinks he is president can say is: If people in the synagogue had been armed, they could have stopped this.

When Trump dies, I will not go piss on his grave . . . I don't like standing in line.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
70. We'll hire a gardener to go pour horse piss on his grave every morning.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

And stack cow patties on his tombstone. I'd be satisfied with that.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
63. Mid-holiday for me, so much for wishing one day without some nauseating news
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

"So this is hell, and there's a crucifix in it". What will it take for the MAGA's to see there just isn't any goodness to reap from this debacle?

Response to PunkinPi (Original post)

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
87. Why did you overlook the many threads expressing empathy for Jews?
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 06:16 PM
Oct 2018

Why vent in just this one while ignoring all the rest. Something doesn't seem right.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11330683

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