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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:07 AM Oct 2018

No intention to shoot if migrant caravan crosses border, DHS secretary Nielsen says

Source: NBC News




As many as 7,000 people, mostly from Honduras, are slowly making their way toward the U.S through Mexico.

Oct. 26, 2018 / 5:28 AM CDT
By Alexander Smith

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Thursday that there is no "intention right now to shoot at people" from a Central American migrant caravan if they cross the United States border.
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Last week in the White House, Nielsen became involved in a heated discussion over the caravan, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

Nielsen was explaining an 80 percent rise in immigrant families crossing the border when National Security Adviser John Bolton interrupted her to criticize her handling of the issue, the people said.

Bolton said that Nielsen was doing a poor job with the border and that her department was not producing the needed results, these people added. He argued that she was failing at one of her signature tasks as Homeland Security secretary, they said.

This prompted a heated exchange between Bolton and White White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, according to the sources................................

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-intention-shoot-if-migrant-caravan-crosses-border-dhs-secretary-n924716



Two things bother me--
One-she says intentions of no shooting "right now"!! Why add the right now??
Two--Bolton is surely pushing sever retributions as they cross IMHO--He and Stephen Miller are deep trouble!










President Donald Trump made immigration a central issue ahead of next month's midterm elections, and tweeted about the caravan Thursday.





Central American migrants, who are part of a caravan trying to reach the United States, walk on a street in Tapachula, Mexico, on Monday.UESLEI MARCELINO / Reuters

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No intention to shoot if migrant caravan crosses border, DHS secretary Nielsen says (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2018 OP
How very thoughtful of them to refrain from shooting desperate refugees and small children. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #1
Yes, isn't that nice. mobeau69 Oct 2018 #2
"No intention now" implies a temporary stay of executive slaughter. RVN VET71 Oct 2018 #14
Alisyn Camerota reported this morning that a lot of the caravan mobeau69 Oct 2018 #3
He'll take credit for that, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #4
True. He's always in CYA mode. mobeau69 Oct 2018 #5
Then the country has this from a DHS witch. saying this......................... turbinetree Oct 2018 #6
The fact she makes this statement DBoon Oct 2018 #7
Yep. dalton99a Oct 2018 #10
Bolton would prefer Gaza/Korea type rules of border engagement Marcuse Oct 2018 #8
Most magnificently magnanimous. dalton99a Oct 2018 #9
I suggest they duck anyway. malthaussen Oct 2018 #11
Another inflamatory wording was "if they cross the United States border" LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #12
NAPALM would be much more efficient Submariner Oct 2018 #13
And we should believe the baby-crate lady why? Hekate Oct 2018 #15
no plan to shoot migrant "right now" friend of m and j Oct 2018 #16
You and me both! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #17
This even had to be said!?!? NickB79 Oct 2018 #18

RVN VET71

(2,692 posts)
14. "No intention now" implies a temporary stay of executive slaughter.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:03 PM
Oct 2018

She implies that it'll just take another meeting to smooth the way. She's not sounding a humanitarian note. "No intention now" is half a phrase, followed at some point by a "but if . . ." As in "but if that's what we have to do, that's what we'll do"; or an "unless . . ." As in "unless they leave us no alternative."

Nielsen is prepared to do whatever it takes to please Butthead Bolton and the rest of the murderous maniacs in the WH. I hope her legal people have advised her of the international penalties for mass murder.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
3. Alisyn Camerota reported this morning that a lot of the caravan
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:13 AM
Oct 2018

people are turning around. The size is shrinking as many just can't make the trek.

Dotard won't like that optic.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
6. Then the country has this from a DHS witch. saying this.........................
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:28 AM
Oct 2018

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Thursday that there is no "intention right now to shoot at people".......................how in the fuck could some one say that with any credibility .....................no "intention right now to shoot at people"..................I really do hope and even though I do not pray, I do hope that we take back the house and bring this person in for questioning.......................that is just fucking sick.....................to even think that out loud........................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough......................vote

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
11. I suggest they duck anyway.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:32 PM
Oct 2018

Whenever this Administration announces anything, they do the exact opposite. What do you think would happen if they did open fire? Mr Trump's supporters would eat it up.

Military units might refuse to fire, but I'm not so sure about ICE or the border agencies.

-- Mal

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
12. Another inflamatory wording was "if they cross the United States border"
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

How the hell would they cross the border? Isn't there a border station on all roads leading into the US? Unless there is some plan I am unaware of that they are all going to disperse just before the border and fan out and sneak through in small groups.. or rush through all together.

These are potential refugees. Isn't their plan to be allowed in as refugees, to apply for that status by entering through an official entrance along a road? Keep it orderly?

I have to admit that this is coming at a very bad time politically. This will be used by Republicans, especially along border States to imply there is a giant mob of gangsters coming to invade the country.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
13. NAPALM would be much more efficient
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

A laser sighted NAPALM bomb accurately dropped at the far end of that street at a flight speed of about 280 mph could cover the whole caravan in the burning napalm-jelly. So I have to agree with Trump, for right now, don't consider gatling guns yet.

friend of m and j

(220 posts)
16. no plan to shoot migrant "right now"
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:21 AM
Oct 2018

I can't believe the US has fallen to the point where even the idea of possibly shooting migrants attempting to escape violence in their country of origin even came into someone's head, much less discussed in the White House.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
17. You and me both!
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:34 AM
Oct 2018

Who would think of such a thing?? These people are escaping violence, they're seeking asylum - not to mention that they're families with children. This country has always welcomed those seeking a better life - most of us wouldn't be here if it didn't.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
18. This even had to be said!?!?
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:25 AM
Oct 2018

What have we become if there's even a second's thought in our elected officials about opening fire on a caravan of unarmed families. Women, children, elderly.

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