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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:46 PM Oct 2018

Design of bombs targeting Trump critics came from Internet: source

Source: Reuters



OCTOBER 25, 2018 / 4:40 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Investigators believe that the design and instructions for building the bombs sent to several critics of U.S. President Donald Trump this week were taken from the internet, a federal law enforcement official told Reuters on Thursday.

The instructions for such devices are widely available on websites and in propaganda distributed by Islamic militant groups including Al Qaeda and ISIS, said the official and a former federal government bomb expert.

The federal official also said the designs could have been lifted from “The Anarchist Cookbook,” a notorious bomb and hacker manual dating to the early 1970s.

There was no claim of responsibility for the spate bombs, none of which exploded.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-packages-design/design-of-bombs-targeting-trump-critics-came-from-internet-source-idUSKCN1MZ306

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Design of bombs targeting Trump critics came from Internet: source (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
What uninformed speculation passes for news. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #1
It's worse than uninformed jberryhill Oct 2018 #26
Yup. Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #2
Again, Dunning Kruger. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2018 #3
A stupid person's idea of a smart person Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #7
That narrows it down Racerdog1 Oct 2018 #10
And the labels were printed.. reACTIONary Oct 2018 #12
+1! Did they even use gloves? Someone Cha Oct 2018 #15
"This is a stupid person who doesn't know he is stupid." So a DJT copycat?? efhmc Oct 2018 #16
Called it ck4829 Oct 2018 #24
"There was no claim of responsibility for the spate bombs, none of which exploded. " Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #4
Jeebus H. Keerist..*sigh* osmium Oct 2018 #5
The fact that the source added... PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #6
Agreed. But my point is.. osmium Oct 2018 #9
I wonder why no one has sent white phosphorus in an air tight bag yet. LiberalArkie Oct 2018 #8
Whoever , duforsure Oct 2018 #11
30 year minimum, I gather. Chemisse Oct 2018 #13
The MAGABombers didn't use gloves?! Cha Oct 2018 #14
Actually, the expert I was listening to pointed out that it was pretty hard to use gloves with tape. Chemisse Oct 2018 #19
Makes sense.. Thanks, Chemisse That Cha Oct 2018 #22
trump is warming up his pardon pen PSPS Oct 2018 #17
Oh yes. A foolish prank. Boys will be boys, after all. Chemisse Oct 2018 #20
Very fine person ck4829 Oct 2018 #25
"Critics of U.S.President..." REALLY? Merlot Oct 2018 #18
Good point! n/t Chemisse Oct 2018 #21
Kick ck4829 Oct 2018 #23
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. It's worse than uninformed
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:22 AM
Oct 2018

It's downright stupid:

"The federal official also said the designs could have been lifted from “The Anarchist Cookbook,” a notorious bomb and hacker manual dating to the early 1970s."

First off, back in grad school I picked up a copy of that book for shits and giggles, and the likelihood of making a functional anything from it is extremely low. IMHO, people go on about that book in order to divert would-be miscreants into an enterprise where they are more likely to hurt themselves than anything else.

Secondly, the most obvious stupidity here is that small coin-battery-operated digital clocks of the type used by Sayoc did not even exist in the early 1970's, and so it is pretty bleedingly apparent that whatever Sayoc was up to did not come from that book.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
3. Again, Dunning Kruger.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:08 PM
Oct 2018

Some Trump supporter figured it would be good to send off bombs to everyone on Trump's regular hit list.

Not a master bomb maker, he goes to the internet and finds the first thing he thinks is a functional explosive and attempts to build it.

He sends it out, bad spelling and all, and the rest is history.

This is no criminal mastermind. This is a stupid person who doesn't know he is stupid.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
4. "There was no claim of responsibility for the spate bombs, none of which exploded. "
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:11 PM
Oct 2018

This is how we know these bombs came from a right winger.
Righties are weak and cowardly. A true "revolutionary" that really believed in their cause, would love to claim responsibility.

Edit for spelling error.

osmium

(94 posts)
5. Jeebus H. Keerist..*sigh*
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:13 PM
Oct 2018

That's freakin' weak.

Third turn in a game of "telephone:"

"The Internet made the bombs."

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. The fact that the source added...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:16 PM
Oct 2018
the designs could have been lifted from “The Anarchist Cookbook,”

indicates they have no clue where the design came from.

osmium

(94 posts)
9. Agreed. But my point is..
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:41 PM
Oct 2018

..That lots of people don't read, much less comprehend if they do, so seeing the headline(C&P from source): Design of bombs targeting Trump critics came from Internet: source, I can see this turning weird really quickly.

As a really germane example I offer the following: "Al Gore said he invented the Internet." That's patently false, but wide swaths of the electorate believe that Gore said that very thing. Why? "Telephone." Secondary sources that for whatever reason disseminated erroneous information. Of course there are even more egregious variants of my above example, such as: "Al Gore invented the Internet." That even a few people believe this is very telling. Humans don't communicate very well under laboratory conditions. When ideas/facts are released into the wild, it's anyone's guess where and how the info will land.

I think my case is too valid to dismiss; and I wasn't even being serious

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
8. I wonder why no one has sent white phosphorus in an air tight bag yet.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:40 PM
Oct 2018

Or maybe the white powder is white phosphorus but a poor grade.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
13. 30 year minimum, I gather.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:27 PM
Oct 2018

And with fingerprint all over the tape that held the bombs together - just for starters - I expect the culprit(s) will be behind bars pretty promptly.

All about what we could expect from a Trumpite - violent and stupid.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
19. Actually, the expert I was listening to pointed out that it was pretty hard to use gloves with tape.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:09 AM
Oct 2018

And perhaps the culprit thought the evidence would be destroyed in the explosion.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
22. Makes sense.. Thanks, Chemisse That
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:39 AM
Oct 2018

makes a good point that the magabomber thought it would detonate.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
20. Oh yes. A foolish prank. Boys will be boys, after all.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:12 AM
Oct 2018

And nobody was hurt, so really what was the harm?

I can just picture him saying something along those lines.

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