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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:38 PM Oct 2018

Trump says he's taking 'revolutionary' action to lower drug prices

Source: The Washington Post


By Paige Winfield Cunningham and Felicia Sonmez October 25 at 4:30 PM

President Trump has introduced his boldest action yet on high drug prices, saying his administration is moving to stop the “global freeloading” by foreign nations when it comes to the price that American patients are paying for prescription drugs.

In a speech Thursday afternoon at the Department of Health and Human Services, Trump said his administration would be taking the “revolutionary” step of allowing Medicare to directly negotiate prices with drug companies who he says have “rigged” the system, causing U.S. patients to pay more for their medicines.

“Americans pay more so other countries can pay less. It’s wrong. It’s unfair,” Trump said.

Trump’s remarks were the first as president at HHS and come at a time when health care is playing a defining role in the midterm campaign. He argued other countries were being “very disrespectful” by selling their prescription drugs to Americans for higher prices than their own citizens are paying for them.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-address-drug-prices-in-speech-shifting-focus-to-health-care-before-midterm-elections/2018/10/25/88e16e0a-d84b-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html



Trump Proposes to Lower Drug Prices by Basing Them on Other Countries’ Costs

By Robert Pear
Oct. 25, 2018

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WASHINGTON — President Trump proposed on Thursday that Medicare pay for certain prescription drugs based on the prices paid in other advanced industrial countries — a huge change that would save money for the government and for millions of Medicare beneficiaries.

As part of a demonstration project covering half the country, Medicare would establish an “international pricing index” and use it as a benchmark in deciding how much to pay for drugs covered by Part B of Medicare.

“This is a revolutionary change,” Mr. Trump said in a speech on Thursday at the Department of Health and Human Services. “Nobody’s had the courage to do it, or they just didn’t want to do it.”

Mr. Trump said his plan took aim at “global free riding” that forces Americans to subsidize lower drug prices in other countries.

“Americans pay more so that other countries pay less,” Mr. Trump said.

Mr. Trump’s announced was part of a flurry of initiatives emerging from the White House ahead of next month’s midterm elections when Democrats are threatening to take control of the House — and possibly the Senate. Democrats have focused their campaigns on health care, hammering Republicans on the high cost of prescription drugs and asserting that Republicans would undo protections for people with pre-existing medical conditions — one of the most popular provisions of the Affordable Care Act.

On Thursday, the Trump administration offered an answer — but the drug proposal would go into effect in late 2019 or early 2020 at the earliest.

Mr. Trump has the authority to use the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation created by the Affordable Care Act to implement the proposal. That agency has wide discretion to conduct demonstration projects. The Trump administration will accept public comments before starting the project. But the proposal is likely to face fierce political resistance from drug makers, some health care providers and some Republicans in Congress, and it could also be subject to legal challenges.

Mr. Trump’s announcement came after his administration released a government study that found that Medicare was paying 80 percent more than other advanced industrial countries for some of the most costly physician-administered medicines.

“The current international drug pricing system has put America in last place,” Alex M. Azar II, the secretary of health and human services, said in unveiling the report on Thursday.


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Trump says he's taking 'revolutionary' action to lower drug prices (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
Americans pay more so other countries can pay less Maxheader Oct 2018 #1
I think a price fixing for off patent drugs is not a bad idea Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #2
He's proposing using the ACA's structure to do this, yet he is supporting a lawsuit to kill the ACA. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #3
Bingo. LisaM Oct 2018 #4
Because he's lying. He doesn't mean a word of it. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #6
Of course! The only people crazier than Trump are those who believe him! SunSeeker Oct 2018 #7
can I say election stunt? rurallib Oct 2018 #9
That is the first, and last.... SergeStorms Oct 2018 #29
Trumpy always lies. Nuff said. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2018 #5
It is true that the European Big Pharms overprice the US McCamy Taylor Oct 2018 #16
And it's a double whammy on Americans because... rlegro Oct 2018 #20
Isn't there a federal law passed in early 2000s that prohibits the federal sinkingfeeling Oct 2018 #8
IIRC that was part of the Medicare Part D law rurallib Oct 2018 #10
$32,000 in American prices vs $15 in other countries. Initech Oct 2018 #11
Isn't Congress out right now? LakeArenal Oct 2018 #12
Election cycle stunt that truthfully can only be accomplished by Democratic Party wins. truthisfreedom Oct 2018 #13
Democrats tried to do exactly that years ago. flyingfysh Oct 2018 #14
They nuked the filibuster. Pity Puddles Oct 2018 #21
This is try. Guardian UK wrote about in 2005 McCamy Taylor Oct 2018 #15
So he's making the prices higher sakabatou Oct 2018 #17
Don't trust him duforsure Oct 2018 #18
This can only mean ... relayerbob Oct 2018 #19
It's another Trump Con! it doesn't apply to prescriptions bought at pharmacies! blue neen Oct 2018 #22
...and there's the fine print. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #25
This is nothing new, he said he was going to do this during his campaign. ooky Oct 2018 #23
Not for prescriptions at the drug store. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #24
That's what I was trying to figure out. blue neen Oct 2018 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Oct 2018 #27
Sounds like it's about cutting into Doctors/Hospital's profit margin, not Big Pharma ... mr_lebowski Oct 2018 #28
Will that before or after xxqqqzme Oct 2018 #30

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
1. Americans pay more so other countries can pay less
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:42 PM
Oct 2018

I thought the countries with cheaper drugs subsidized
their pharmy corps...? Don't get dementia boys logic...

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
4. Bingo.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:55 PM
Oct 2018

Is he oblivious to the fact that all attempts prevent negotiating drug prices have come from the GOP?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
6. Because he's lying. He doesn't mean a word of it.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:11 PM
Oct 2018

He is packing in the bullshit before the election. That is all that matters now.

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
9. can I say election stunt?
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:27 PM
Oct 2018

the last we'll hear about this is Nov. 6th.
Surely the drug companies have already been tipped to that.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
29. That is the first, and last....
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:47 AM
Oct 2018

time we'll hear anything about this subject. It's more Gee Oh Pee lying before the mid-term elections. They're promising everyone exactly what a Democratic majority in both houses of congress and a Democratic President would enact, but only as a ruse to convince low-information independents to vote for them. Lying, cheating, criminal scumbags, every damned one of them!

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
16. It is true that the European Big Pharms overprice the US
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 07:18 PM
Oct 2018

so they can under price at home. The Guardian UK wrote about this in 2005, said that Brits should object to Medicare drug price bargaining because it would mean higher prices in the UK.

However Trump is almost certainly lying when he says he will do something about it. European Big Pharm gives Citizens United money too.

rlegro

(338 posts)
20. And it's a double whammy on Americans because...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:10 PM
Oct 2018

...the federal government subsidizes a lot of pharmacological research, which private drug companies then turn into private profits.

sinkingfeeling

(51,461 posts)
8. Isn't there a federal law passed in early 2000s that prohibits the federal
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

government from negotiating Medicare Part D drug prices?

Initech

(100,081 posts)
11. $32,000 in American prices vs $15 in other countries.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

Who's rushing out to pay these prices exactly?

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
13. Election cycle stunt that truthfully can only be accomplished by Democratic Party wins.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:22 PM
Oct 2018

Dem candidates should seize on this and own it. We’ve supported the ideas for years. Ask Bernie.

 

Pity Puddles

(98 posts)
21. They nuked the filibuster.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:23 PM
Oct 2018

We should do the same for the next Congress - nuke the filibuster for everything until the next Congressional session. Turnabout is a fair play.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
15. This is try. Guardian UK wrote about in 2005
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 07:16 PM
Oct 2018

said that the UK had to lobby against Medicare drug price negotiations because if European pharms did not charge more in the US then people in the UK would not get a discount. I wrote about it at DU at the time. Looks like someone finally noticed. Will someone do anything or is this just more hot election air? Likely the latter.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
22. It's another Trump Con! it doesn't apply to prescriptions bought at pharmacies!
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:23 PM
Oct 2018

"The new payment model will affect only drugs purchased and dispensed by doctors themselves under Medicare’s Part B program — not medicines purchased at pharmacies. In the five-year experiment, carried out through CMS’s innovation center, prices will be gradually and increasingly pegged to the new international index instead of average U.S. sales price."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-address-drug-prices-in-speech-shifting-focus-to-health-care-before-midterm-elections/2018/10/25/88e16e0a-d84b-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html?utm_term=.c59e187c663a

How on earth is that going to help anyone?

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
25. ...and there's the fine print.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:03 AM
Oct 2018

There's always fine print in a Trump deal. Wait until people get the bill for the upper class tax cut.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
23. This is nothing new, he said he was going to do this during his campaign.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:46 PM
Oct 2018

It was one of his many promises he didn't follow through on. Now 2 years later and 2 weeks before the next election he tells the same lie again.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
24. Not for prescriptions at the drug store.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:01 AM
Oct 2018

The prices for our monthly medicines are just fine with him.

He's only proposing to lower costs of drugs administered at doctor's offices and out patient clinics. So... flu shots?

I'll rec if you add that disclaimer.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
26. That's what I was trying to figure out.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:18 AM
Oct 2018

What drugs are administered at doctor's offices? Maybe it is just flu shots. Who knows?

Just another Trump Scam.

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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. Sounds like it's about cutting into Doctors/Hospital's profit margin, not Big Pharma ...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:51 AM
Oct 2018

As others have mentioned, this is nothing to do with the drugs anyone buys at the pharmacy.

I'm not saying I'm 'against' cutting DRASTICALLY down on the ridiculously large upcharges that Hospitals do when they give you meds, but the way I'm reading this ... that's who's profits they're actually going after.

He's not going to cross Big Pharma, no way.

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