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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:31 PM Oct 2018

Investigation Into Pipe Bombs Turns Toward Florida as More Trump Critics Are Targeted

Source: The New York Times



By William K. Rashbaum, Alan Feuer and Adam Goldman
Oct. 25, 2018

Federal authorities investigating a spate of pipe bombs sent this week to several prominent critics of President Trump have turned their attention toward southern Florida, believing that a number of the explosive devices were mailed from the area, two people briefed on the matter said Thursday.

The focus on Florida came as law-enforcement officials around the country were scrambling for another day to respond to the mysterious and repeated discovery of the crude devices contained in similar packages. Three more devices were found in Delaware and New York, the F.B.I. said Thursday morning. Two were addressed to former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., a Delaware resident, and a third to the actor Robert De Niro, who lives and works in Lower Manhattan.

All of the 10 packages that have been discovered since Monday bore return addresses from Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a Democratic congresswoman from Florida.

The continuing wave of bombs has prompted an intense, nationwide investigation into whether people who have criticized the president and been vilified by the right are being targeted. None of the devices has so far exploded on its own, and investigators have been trying to determine whether the devices were indeed capable of detonating.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/nyregion/bomb-explosive-device.html

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Investigation Into Pipe Bombs Turns Toward Florida as More Trump Critics Are Targeted (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
determine whether the devices were indeed capable of detonating. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #1
My theory of it just being intimidation or a "troll" seems less likely xor Oct 2018 #3
Where did you hear that they can actually explode? Wintryjade Oct 2018 #4
Oh whoops, I misread the article posted. I'm dumb. xor Oct 2018 #8
That is funny, the way the brain works sometimes. Ok, thanks. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #11
This should take 30 seconds. justgamma Oct 2018 #2
True. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #5
I suspect that they don't want to disclose that information. Yonnie3 Oct 2018 #6
Ya, you are probably correct. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #12
Then Donald will make it a 10 second, limited scope investigation? keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #9
A little more perspective.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #7
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #10
florida huh? found it... Locrian Oct 2018 #13
 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
1. determine whether the devices were indeed capable of detonating.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:35 PM
Oct 2018

Well, at least we finally got to the point of hearing that they do not even know if they can detonate. But, I hear they have shrapnel and the parts, so they will be considered a viable threat when prosecuted.

xor

(1,204 posts)
3. My theory of it just being intimidation or a "troll" seems less likely
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:40 PM
Oct 2018

now that it's known they can explode. If it was either of those then I would think they would have mailed inert devices that didn't actually risk causing harm.

I hope they figure out who this person is before he (or she, I guess) figures out how to do it correctly.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
4. Where did you hear that they can actually explode?
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:47 PM
Oct 2018

The article said determining IF they can. I have not read they could. But then, I did not go into the link.

xor

(1,204 posts)
8. Oh whoops, I misread the article posted. I'm dumb.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:17 PM
Oct 2018

I thought I read "one exploded on its own", but it said none exploded on its own.. heheh my bad.

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
2. This should take 30 seconds.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:38 PM
Oct 2018

investigation into whether people who have criticized the president and been vilified by the right are being targeted.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
5. True.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:48 PM
Oct 2018

They really should not need this amount of time to see if they could explode. It cannot be that hard to follow the wires.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
6. I suspect that they don't want to disclose that information.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:00 PM
Oct 2018

The possibility exists that some were made that can detonate and some that cannot. They don't know if more are out there undelivered as of today. People might let their guard down if they believe the devices are not capable of exploding.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
12. Ya, you are probably correct.
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 08:12 PM
Oct 2018

And I did read earlier that because they had the parts and shrapnel, regardless it was being handled as explosive.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
9. Then Donald will make it a 10 second, limited scope investigation?
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:34 PM
Oct 2018

Then Donald will make it a 10 second, limited scope investigation?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
7. A little more perspective....
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:15 PM
Oct 2018
Feds focus mail-bomb investigation on Florida, two other states
Miami Herald

Link: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article220621360.html

(snip)
Federal sources told the Miami Herald that they were poorly made and posed no threat.

“The way they were constructed they were not going to go off,” one law enforcement source told the Herald. “You could not compare then to the Boston Marathon bomber.”

Then, there's this from a wanna-be Florida Man:

Drunk man on South Beach had 5 loaded guns, bullet-resistant vest and swastika, cops say

Link: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article220599655.html

(snip)
Sioux Falls (SD) resident David Goldammer, 32, sits in Miami-Dade County Jail on charges of DUI, carrying a concealed weapon and openly carrying a weapon.
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After watching Goldammer almost fall as he stepped out of the truck, the report says, cops patted him down and found a loaded .357 Magnum revolver in his front waistband. He refused to do field sobriety tests, according to police.

The charges were not for the long gun, but for the two handguns found in the console and the one in his waistband. It’s not illegal to own a semiautomatic rifle. But it’s illegal to open carry in Florida — and as far as police could tell, he did not have a concealed weapons permit.

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