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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 08:21 PM Oct 2018

When Trump Phones Friends, the Chinese and the Russians Listen and Learn

Source: The New York Times

When President Trump calls old friends on one of his iPhones to gossip, gripe or solicit their latest take on how he is doing, American intelligence reports indicate that Chinese spies are often listening — and putting to use invaluable insights into how to best work the president and affect administration policy, current and former American officials said.

Mr. Trump’s aides have repeatedly warned him that his cellphone calls are not secure, and they have told him that Russian spies are routinely eavesdropping on the calls, as well. But aides say the voluble president, who has been pressured into using his secure White House landline more often these days, has still refused to give up his iPhones. White House officials say they can only hope he refrains from discussing classified information when he is on them.

Mr. Trump’s use of his iPhones was detailed by several current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so they could discuss classified intelligence and sensitive security arrangements. The officials said they were doing so not to undermine Mr. Trump, but out of frustration with what they considered the president’s casual approach to electronic security.

American spy agencies, the officials said, had learned that China and Russia were eavesdropping on the president’s cellphone calls from human sources inside foreign governments and intercepting communications between foreign officials.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html

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When Trump Phones Friends, the Chinese and the Russians Listen and Learn (Original Post) Julian Englis Oct 2018 OP
And they were outraged at Hillary's private server Bfd Oct 2018 #1
How is he still allowed access to insecure phones? forgotmylogin Oct 2018 #14
Shithole and his administration are stupid. Iliyah Oct 2018 #2
But her emails! nt wiggs Oct 2018 #3
Would there be records in data center in Utah Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #4
Trump doesn't care whether China and Russia listen in Danascot Oct 2018 #5
Maybe that is how he is communicating with them Perseus Oct 2018 #6
I think you're on to something. Probably the intelligence community figured it out too Merlot Oct 2018 #8
Dem Senator Mark Warner sounding the alarm........ riversedge Oct 2018 #7
How is this not treason? NickB79 Oct 2018 #9
Yes! Shouldn't there be MsLeopard Oct 2018 #10
Wait. He has friends? smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #11
Russia doesn't have to do much because Trump does what Putin tells him anyway muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #12
But not his emails because he can't read or write IronLionZion Oct 2018 #13
Greenwald and Snowden were- yeah, yeah, you know the rest... Blue_Tires Oct 2018 #15

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
14. How is he still allowed access to insecure phones?
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:08 AM
Oct 2018

Weren't there reports that Obama was reluctant to give up his Blackberry, but of course he did because that's what you do as the President of the US?

I mean...the EPA Chief was building overzealous soundproof booths for his landline calls. Why wouldn't TRMP the germophobe be wary of his calls being leaked?

Maggiemayhem

(811 posts)
4. Would there be records in data center in Utah
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:12 PM
Oct 2018

I thought they have records of every texts, email and calls. I hope they are listening to Trumps calls.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
6. Maybe that is how he is communicating with them
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:46 PM
Oct 2018

I hope the secret service is listening too. It would be preposterous if the secret service was not listening, this is not a matter of personal privacy, this guy knows too much about secrets of the USA and everyone knows that he will do anything to "look good", at least he thinks he "looks good" by telling USA secrets to friends, he has a big mouth, the secret service needs to protect the country from this child.

riversedge

(70,243 posts)
7. Dem Senator Mark Warner sounding the alarm........
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:11 PM
Oct 2018





Mark Warner
?Verified account @MarkWarner

Mark Warner Retweeted The New York Times

This is a big problem, if true. The intelligence community works hard to defend us against foreign espionage. The last thing we need is for the President to be jeopardizing national security through sheer carelessness.














SassyGirl914
? @ToniC8
Replying to @MarkWarner @RonaldKlain

What a dope. They know his and maybe our secrets now. It shouldn't have been an option. Presidential power has to reevaluated after this mess is over. If its ever over.😞 Careless abuse of power.
7:46 PM - 24 Oct 2018

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
9. How is this not treason?
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:19 PM
Oct 2018

He's not even fucking trying to act like he gives a fuck about our nation's security anymore.

MsLeopard

(1,265 posts)
10. Yes! Shouldn't there be
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:19 PM
Oct 2018

Some sort of national police force that can step in and arrest him for such a blatant crime, committed right out in the open, now?!! If it were a Democrat doing the same thing, there would be an inquisition, a persecution, and the building of a hangman’s scaffold within weeks.

Nov 6th has to bring a message to these fascist pigs, we the people will not go down without a fight. VOTE!!!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Wait. He has friends?
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:35 AM
Oct 2018

Honestly, is there any human being on the planet who is truly a "friend" to DT or just a user, associate or hanger-on?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
12. Russia doesn't have to do much because Trump does what Putin tells him anyway
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:36 AM
Oct 2018
Russia is not believed to be running as sophisticated an influence effort as China because of Mr. Trump’s apparent affinity for President Vladimir V. Putin, a former official said.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. Greenwald and Snowden were- yeah, yeah, you know the rest...
Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:47 AM
Oct 2018

I don't get it... The national outrage over Hillary having an unsecured homebrew e-mail server was enough to start a congressional investigation and cost her the presidency...

Exactly what makes Trump so immune to the rule of law again?

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