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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:08 PM Oct 2018

Kelly, Bolton Get in Profane Shouting Match Outside the Oval Office

Source: Bloomberg

President Donald Trump’s chief of staff and his national security adviser engaged in a profanity-laced argument outside the Oval Office on Thursday, according to three people familiar with the episode.

It wasn’t immediately clear what the chief of staff, John Kelly, and the national security adviser, John Bolton, were arguing about. The clash is an indication that tension is resurfacing in the White House 19 days before midterm elections in which Republican control of Congress is at stake.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-18/kelly-bolton-in-shouting-match-as-white-house-tensions-reemerge



Trouble in paradise?
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Kelly, Bolton Get in Profane Shouting Match Outside the Oval Office (Original Post) leftynyc Oct 2018 OP
The Walrus and the Carpenter arguing over oyster allocations. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2018 #1
Haha Corvo Bianco Oct 2018 #29
Only the best people underpants Oct 2018 #2
Tiny only has the best people groundloop Oct 2018 #3
Arguing over which one was supposed to wipe the fingerprints off the bone saw. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #4
Ohhhhh FarPoint Oct 2018 #8
The argument was outside the Oval Office, but it's unclear if Trump heard it More_Cowbell Oct 2018 #5
No kidding. catbyte Oct 2018 #27
Head up his ASS Cha Oct 2018 #40
Oh, he heard it alright. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #52
Who's the bigger Asshole? There's Cha Oct 2018 #54
The Jamaicans used to have a great expression. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #56
Just another day in that well-oiled machine of a White House. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2018 #6
Haw-Haw! n/t FSogol Oct 2018 #7
Maybe they could have a duel ThoughtCriminal Oct 2018 #9
preferrable in the oval office with idiot-in-chief in attendance. pennylane100 Oct 2018 #13
Grenades grantcart Oct 2018 #24
Who wins the duel? flotsam Oct 2018 #31
Someone needs to punch Bolton in the nose, once and for all. ZZenith Oct 2018 #10
If the orange blob was en casa...... dawnie51 Oct 2018 #11
You can just cut the tension with a bone saw MrScorpio Oct 2018 #12
They're both Johns yet ironically more like prostitutes. BlueStater Oct 2018 #14
LOL...these clowns The Genealogist Oct 2018 #15
immigration and border crossings is code Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #25
So much winning!!! n/t archiemo Oct 2018 #16
Where can we buy tickets? KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #17
Same here! 😁 Duppers Oct 2018 #32
Whatever Else He Is, Kelly Is A Tough Marine smb Oct 2018 #37
... Duppers Oct 2018 #47
I come from a (generational) USMC family, and Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #53
Give them both pistols and let them duel it out. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #18
my money is on the marine..... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #50
He can always use the toilet paper on Trump's shoe. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #51
I bet that argument had nothing to do with control of Congress. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #19
Bolton refuses to retrieve documents from the Saudi embassy forgotmylogin Oct 2018 #55
How is it not "immediately clear Totally Tunsie Oct 2018 #20
No punches thrown? world wide wally Oct 2018 #21
Things are working just like a well oiled.... gasoline fire.... in the oval office. salin Oct 2018 #22
Moustache envy? BHDem53 Oct 2018 #23
Kelly might have insulted that thing on his face n/t hibbing Oct 2018 #42
So much drama. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2018 #26
Trump sided with Bolton ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2018 #28
Considering it was Kelly and Bolton arguing DFW Oct 2018 #30
Who gives a shit Racerdog1 Oct 2018 #33
trump always goes for the most extreme possible AlexSFCA Oct 2018 #34
This no doubt was simply a heated argument over Russian adoption policy Mr. Ected Oct 2018 #35
Latest DC gossip has it as.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #36
The Underlying Issue smb Oct 2018 #38
Good point, along with other Sunni countries he sees as supportive..... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #44
Ooh! Fighting over a woman I see! machoneman Oct 2018 #49
Trouble in HELL. Cha Oct 2018 #39
Trump tries to fire John Kelly 'but Kelly just ignores him', White House official says keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #41
Neither wanted piss duty that night. Kaleva Oct 2018 #43
Bolton, NATURALLY. elleng Oct 2018 #45
Lovers quarrel? 47of74 Oct 2018 #46
Someone pissed off the Walrus.... n/t gay texan Oct 2018 #48

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Arguing over which one was supposed to wipe the fingerprints off the bone saw.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018

Now they're both in hot water.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
5. The argument was outside the Oval Office, but it's unclear if Trump heard it
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oct 2018

Must have been during "executive time"

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
52. Oh, he heard it alright.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:16 PM
Oct 2018

And then he sided with Bolton. Who in their right mind would EVER side with Bolton ?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
56. The Jamaicans used to have a great expression.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:05 PM
Oct 2018

"A round fart." Because it takes a prefect asshole to produce one.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
11. If the orange blob was en casa......
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:30 PM
Oct 2018

he was no doubt lovin it. He gets OFF on this kind of shit, chaos, screaming, fighting employees.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
15. LOL...these clowns
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:36 PM
Oct 2018

They were arguing over "immigration and border crossings." I'm surprised they weren't arguing over whose turn it was to change Trump's poopy diaper.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,383 posts)
25. immigration and border crossings is code
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

You nailed it; they were arguing over changing TrumPutin's diaper. "Immigration and border crossings" is just WH code for the stuff coming out of that diaper.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
17. Where can we buy tickets?
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:38 PM
Oct 2018

I want front row seats.

Hell, if Bolton gets decked, I'll pay good money just for a DVD....... .........

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
32. Same here! 😁
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:35 PM
Oct 2018

Though I despise them both, Bolton seems to be the scumier. I'd love to see him decked.


smb

(3,473 posts)
37. Whatever Else He Is, Kelly Is A Tough Marine
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:30 PM
Oct 2018

Bolton would get his ass kicked so hard he could wipe it with that mustache.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
53. I come from a (generational) USMC family, and
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:18 PM
Oct 2018

NOBODY thinks Kelly is anything but a disgrace to the uniform.

Solly Mack

(90,778 posts)
18. Give them both pistols and let them duel it out.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:39 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:07 PM - Edit history (1)

Be sure to capture it for Youtube.


getagrip_already

(14,795 posts)
50. my money is on the marine.....
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:03 PM
Oct 2018

bolton is a paper tiger who would wet his pants if faced with real danger.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
20. How is it not "immediately clear
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 04:52 PM
Oct 2018

what the chief of staff, John Kelly, and the national security adviser, John Bolton, were arguing about" if the article then goes on to say what the argument was about?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
28. Trump sided with Bolton ...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

"Trump sided with Bolton, the person said,
which may once again stir speculation that Kelly will soon depart the White House.

The shouting match was so intense that other White House aides worried one of the two men might immediately resign.
Neither of the men is resigning, the people said."

DFW

(54,417 posts)
30. Considering it was Kelly and Bolton arguing
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:31 PM
Oct 2018

It could have been over who is buried in Grant's tomb (Bolton was sure it is Robert E. Lee).
I'm sure Trump sided with Bolton in that case--or, he would have if he had any clue who Robert E. Lee was.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
33. Who gives a shit
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 05:57 PM
Oct 2018

Let these two morons wrestle in the mud. None of this means shit until the orange asshole is gone.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
36. Latest DC gossip has it as....
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:26 PM
Oct 2018
Here’s why John Bolton and John Kelly were at each other’s throats today
Tana Ganeva 18 Oct 2018

Link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/heres-john-bolton-john-kelly-others-throats-today/

(snip)
CNN’s “The Lead” Thursday reported that the intense shouting match between John Bolton and John Kelly, which escalated to the point where observers worried both men might resign, occurred over Secretary of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

According to CNN reporter Kaitlan Collins, Bolton shouted that Nielsen needed to be better at her job, while Kelly defended the embattled Nielsen.

tRump should start wrestling match events in our White House. It fits the style of his administration and he has lot of experience with the wrestling biz.

.........

smb

(3,473 posts)
38. The Underlying Issue
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:32 PM
Oct 2018

Bolton has enough low cunning to realize that a rift in US-Saudi relations dims the prospect for his one-note Bomb-Bomb-Iran song.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
44. Good point, along with other Sunni countries he sees as supportive.....
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:59 PM
Oct 2018

and especially those having oil. They say around 90% of the world's Muslims are Sunnis.

Republicans rarely support a working-class minority - it's harder to win and they seem to crave marginalization of minorities (those damned welfare queens and rapey Mexicans!).

Those who desire to divide and conquer always seem to need a bad guy and a fall guy to demean.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
49. Ooh! Fighting over a woman I see!
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:28 PM
Oct 2018

Funny, unless she was as evil as Aunt Lydia, Bolton wouldn't be happy!

keithbvadu2

(36,853 posts)
41. Trump tries to fire John Kelly 'but Kelly just ignores him', White House official says
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 06:41 PM
Oct 2018

Trump tries to fire John Kelly 'but Kelly just ignores him', White House official says

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142177007

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