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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 06:55 PM Oct 2018

Rochester Hills man guilty in shooting at lost black teen

Source: The Detroit News

Pontiac — In a case that attracted national attention and local outrage, a white Rochester Hills homeowner was convicted Friday for shooting at a lost black teenager who showed up at his door seeking directions to his school.

Jeffrey Zeigler, 53, was found guilty by a jury in Oakland County Circuit Court of assault with intent to commit great bodily harm less than murder and possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony in the April 12 incident at his home involving 14-year-old Brennan Walker.

He had been charged with assault with intent to commit murder, but Judge Wendy Potts gave jurors the option of convicting Zeigler on the lesser charge.

Zeigler could get up to 10 years in prison for the assault conviction, plus a mandatory two years for the firearm count. Potts revoked his bond and ordered him to jail pending sentencing Nov. 13.

-snip-

Mike Martindale, The Detroit News Published 12:32 p.m. ET Oct. 12, 2018 | Updated 5:37 p.m. ET Oct. 12, 2018


Read more: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/10/12/rochester-hills-homeowner-who-fired-teen-trial/1613420002/

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Rochester Hills man guilty in shooting at lost black teen (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2018 OP
Lock this racist idiot up Gothmog Oct 2018 #1
Lock him up. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #2
Guy shoots a unarmed black kid gets time in Detroit jail. docgee Oct 2018 #3
Not in Detroit Jail DownriverDem Oct 2018 #5
Security Video DownriverDem Oct 2018 #4
Another "responsible gun owner." SunSeeker Oct 2018 #6
So true DownriverDem Oct 2018 #7
I don't understand why the man (or his wife) felt threatened. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #15
Afraid of changes? DownriverDem Oct 2018 #17
I agree with you that the wife's screaming triggered him. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #21
A mail carrier in our area KT2000 Oct 2018 #20
What is it with these gun owners ? Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #22
Haven't had a gun aimed at me KT2000 Oct 2018 #23
And isn't it a shame that you have to think that way ? Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #27
For pointing a loaded gun at a mail carrier, he should get his mail in a federal prison! NutmegYankee Oct 2018 #25
Agree! KT2000 Oct 2018 #26
Hope he gets the full 10 years. Most burglars don't knock on the door. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #8
+ 2 years DownriverDem Oct 2018 #9
Good. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #10
By God, this is Amurca! And if a ***** knocks on our doors in the morning, Jack-o-Lantern Oct 2018 #11
Surveillance video shown in court of man accused of attacking teenager IronLionZion Oct 2018 #12
Smart judge. Aristus Oct 2018 #13
Good. I hope he goes to prison for a long time. yardwork Oct 2018 #14
Good! nt BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #16
Guy's getting what he deserves. llmart Oct 2018 #18
Off to jail with ya! paleotn Oct 2018 #19
Another racist POS off the streets. Thanks for the good news! Takket Oct 2018 #24

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
5. Not in Detroit Jail
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:16 PM
Oct 2018

It happened in Rochester Hills, Michigan. (median income $80,806) He will serve in a Michigan prison.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
4. Security Video
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:15 PM
Oct 2018

The video was very clear that he was guilty. You see the teen going on the porch and up to the door. Then he takes off running. The man then comes out with a shotgun. He stopped and tries to shoot, then does shoot. (the safety was on) His wife was the one who called 911 on the teen. The guy is sorry, but the teen is lucky he wasn't killed. I'm surprised there are more incidents with so many gun nuts.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
15. I don't understand why the man (or his wife) felt threatened.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:26 PM
Oct 2018

The boy was knocking on the door, not climbing through a broken window.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
17. Afraid of changes?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:06 PM
Oct 2018

Rochester Hills is majority white. He was a former Detroit fire fighter. He used the term "colored boy". Many Metro Detroit cities have gone through changes and are more diverse. His wife screaming set it all in motion.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
21. I agree with you that the wife's screaming triggered him.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:14 PM
Oct 2018

But honestly, I'm older than he is and I haven't heard the term "colored" in decades. And I grew up in Cleveland !!

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
20. A mail carrier in our area
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:39 PM
Oct 2018

knocked on a man's door in the evening to deliver an Amazon box. The man answered with his rifle aimed at the mail carrier and there was a red laser dot on her chest. He no longer gets mail delivery to his home, he has to go to the post office to pick it up.

In an agreement with Amazon, deliveries are made twice a day so evening deliveries are now common.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
22. What is it with these gun owners ?
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:18 PM
Oct 2018

Answering the door with a gun ? Really ? What if it had been the Avon lady ? Or the little old ladies who do volunteer work at the library or church ? Or election pollsters ? Or the Girls Scouts ?

Most people who take the time to knock on the door are not the folks up to no good.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
23. Haven't had a gun aimed at me
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:24 AM
Oct 2018

but long ago I noticed that some older men will answer the door already angry. I believe they are stoked up on FAUX/internet hate and are ready for a confrontation that started in their own minds.
I live in an area with lots of retired people so I really think twice before knocking on someone's door.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
25. For pointing a loaded gun at a mail carrier, he should get his mail in a federal prison!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:09 AM
Oct 2018

That should have been pursued and charged.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
8. Hope he gets the full 10 years. Most burglars don't knock on the door.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:21 PM
Oct 2018

He knew the kid was lost. He shot at him cuz he was black

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
9. + 2 years
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:23 PM
Oct 2018

Because he used a gun to commit the crime, he will automatically have to serve an additional 2 years to the sentence.

Jack-o-Lantern

(967 posts)
11. By God, this is Amurca! And if a ***** knocks on our doors in the morning,
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:38 PM
Oct 2018

by God we shoot first and ask questions later….

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
12. Surveillance video shown in court of man accused of attacking teenager
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:42 PM
Oct 2018


Dude really "feared for his life" by chasing after a kid who took off running

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
13. Smart judge.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:55 PM
Oct 2018

Better a conviction and jail time on a lesser charge than the risk of an acquittal on a higher charge.

Dude's going away for a while...

Please warden, throw him in to GenPop. See how he likes that...

llmart

(15,540 posts)
18. Guy's getting what he deserves.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:25 PM
Oct 2018

Michigan has become a state of gun nutters. However Rochester Hills was voted one of the best small cities in the U.S. not long ago. It's a very family oriented place and is rather diverse, mainly because of the university that's there. The population is high income, white collar professionals.

The gun nutters get each other riled up by hanging with their own kind and feeding off of each other's anger and fear. Today I was walking into my nearby grocery store and a white man, probably in his late 50's, early 60's got out of his vehicle and I heard him swearing "F'ing this, f that, what a lie, and some other hateful stuff I didn't catch and looked back at the vehicle he had just gotten out of to see if maybe he was mad at someone in the jeep and just kept it up when he got out of the car, but there was no one in it and no one nearby that maybe had done something to set him up. The parking lot wasn't very full or busy. He stomped ahead of me with his head down and muttering all the way into the store. I stayed a bit behind him because I didn't want to get too close to him. I looked around when I got in the doors but didn't see him anywhere. All I could think of was, one more old, angry white man who's mad at the world because someone promised him a pony and he didn't get it. Geez.

I actually thought, "What if he has a gun?" and "What if he goes in the store and starts shooting it up?" Pretty bad that that crossed my mind.

paleotn

(17,917 posts)
19. Off to jail with ya!
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:35 PM
Oct 2018

He can tell his fellow inmates what a bad ass he is. I'm sure that will go over well. Just one more old, angry, white dough boy looking for his lost privilege.

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