Coons: 'Premature' for House Dems to talk about impeaching Kavanaugh

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill



BY MICHAEL BURKE - 10/07/18 11:28 AM EDT

Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) on Sunday said it's "premature" for House Democrats to be talking about re-investigating or impeaching Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh if they win back control of the chamber.

"Frankly, we are just less than a month away from an election. Folks who feel very strongly one way or the other about the issues in front of us should get out and vote and participate," he said during an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"There's only ever been one justice that's been impeached and I think talking about it at this point isn't necessarily healing us and moving us forward. ... The Senate's role in our politics is not to just reflect the country, but to help heal and lead the country. And that's the course we should be on," he added.

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Some House Democrats, including Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), have said they will consider investigating Kavanaugh if the Democrats take back the majority.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/410290-coons-premature-for-house-dems-to-talk-about-impeaching-kavanaugh

[still_one]

1. This is going to be a tough one, but the reason it is premature is BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WIN THE

MIDTERMS FIRST

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. And then figure out how to get 67 votes for conviction in the Senate.

[still_one]

5. Details, details........................

[Buzz cook]

32. If there is a credible investigation

Perhaps a few repubs will split off. Not much of a chance but there it is.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. To flip enough GOPers to get to 67 an investigation would have to discover

dismembered bodies in his crawlspace and a couple of kilos of cocaine in his trunk.

[Buzz cook]

40. So you're saying its possible ;-) nt

.

[geomon666]

4. Exactly, this should not even be a discussion right now

Especially a public one.

[lancelyons]

10. Agreed.. that is the only solid next step

However,

We have to have more of a strategy than GOTV and win an election. We did that the last 20 years and look where we are. We took the high road and look where we are.

We have to start rebuilding our image.

We have to start winning in Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc.
we have to get religions to not just be on the right.
we have to get law enforcement to be with us and not against us.
WE have to stick up for all Americans and not just selective Americans.
We have to take out Fox News.. that is destroying America
We have to push against all this right wing messaging that shows Dems as the bad people. Surprising as it is.. we help people of all sorts yet we are the bad guys.. Why.. the GOP are successful at pushing that narrative.

[totodeinhere]

13. Right, and talking too much about it now might just motivate more voters on

the other side. I can see Republican candidates saying vote for me to keep Kav from getting impeached. Lets take back the House first.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. No, promisin impeachment of KKKavanutz & the Traitor-in-Chief is precisely HOW we win the midterms!!

[still_one]

28. No. we will win the midterms, at least the House, because the republican party has been exposed

itself as the sexist, racist, bigots that they are, and women will be coming out in force

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. Could win the Senate too if we commit to impeaching these assholes

and give folks an incentive to show up and vote.

[sheshe2]

51. Please.

If people today are not motivated enough to get out and vote then they are either deaf, dumb or blind.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Never hurts to maximize your chances.

[sheshe2]

57. Sure.

Toss the voters a fairy tale saying we will vote to impeach when we don't have and will not in 2018 the 67 votes needed. I prefer facts and reality to a wish list.

Trust me. I would love to see 67 Democratic Senators seated, yet it is not a reality.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

59. Not a fairy tale to win REAL majorities in both the House & Senate by promising REAL impeachment

during the 2018 midterms... which results in a REAL blue wave in the 2018 midterms... which then results in having REAL investigations in both chambers, as promised during the 2018 midterms... which then results in uncovering REAL evidence of corruption, as also promised during the 2018 midterms... which then results in REAL impeachment in the House, as promised during the 2018 midterms... which then results in REAL conviction in the Senate, as promised during the 2018 midterms, by a REAL overwhelming majority of both parties due to the REAL evidence uncovered by the REAL investigations presented during the REAL trial in the Senate, which were accomplished by the REAL promises of impeachment made during the 2018 midterms that resulted in the REAL blue wave. See?... Not a fairy tale at all.

[yurbud]

56. that's what we thought about Hillary v. Trump, Kerry v. Baby Bush, Gore v. Baby Bush...

[sheshe2]

58. My point stands.

They are to stupid to vote, yet vocal when their rights and benefits are taken away from them as they wring their hands and cry poor me.

FYI. Hillary won. Fact. You never seem to mention the evil and Russian influence not just in the WH but most GOP in house and senate. You leave out the facts.

PS Gore's was stolen as well.

[yurbud]

60. I agree with Hillary & Gore winning & having it stolen, which is why they should have been

fighting hard for the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

The Russia stuff irritates the shit out of me, regardless of whether it's true because centrist Democrats previously called anyone who mentioned plain old REPUBLICAN vote rigging and voter suppression were ignored or called conspiracy theorists.

They only seem to care about it now because it can be used to escalate tensions with Russia because they didn't roll over or overreact to our foreign policy moves in Ukraine and Syria.

[Calista241]

42. I find it difficult to reconcile that white women care enough about Kavanaugh

but they didn't care about Trump's access hollywood tape where he basically said he grabs strange women by the pussy.

[brooklynite]

43. I have spoken to upwards of 50 candidates in Red States...

...NONE of them say Impeachment (of Trump or Kavanaugh) is on their minds.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. Obviously, the blue/purple state candidates have something different on their minds, as they should.

[yurbud]

34. You don't win by focusing on what you aren't going to do

[yurbud]

35. a better way to say it: "You want this raping bastard impeached? Give us the seats to do it!"

It aint rocket science.

someone needs to hold a seminar for some Democratic candidates about how to NOT dampen voter enthusiasm.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. Precisely!!

[Me.]

3. Keeping Your Powder Dry

[yurbud]

36. ...so the Republicans can steal it and kill us all with it.

[Me.]

37. Calm Down

it's a till you see the whites of their eyes strategy

[yurbud]

38. That's what Democrats said all through the Bush admin & when they lost Congress

during the Obama admin because they folded to the Republicans so often.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. Right again!! It's time to stop bringing a feather duster to a gun fight & fight fire wit napalm!!!

[Me.]

39. I Think Those Days Are Over

and if they don't know it, they soon will. They can start by replacing Schumer, my Senator, who I consider to be completely ineffective.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

47. I wouldn't say Schumer's completely ineffective, but clearly we need someone who can bring the heat.

[Chemisse]

6. I agree.

It's time to look to the future, and our only hope of a bright future is to usher in Dem majorities in the midterms.

Plus talking about that would only energize the GOPers to vote.

[yurbud]

41. Republicans do a pretty good job of energizing their base. Dems need to work on energizing THEIRS

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

48. Exactly!! Why is this so hard to understand?! Impeach these fucks on Day 1 of the new Congress!

[ewagner]

7. I agree with Coons

If we make the mid-terms about impeaching Kavanaugh, we'll give tRump another stump speech to rally his troops..

Concentrate on our other agenda items, Health Care (#1), Jobs, Education, Student Debt, Income inequality...etc

Go get 'em...the Repubs have A LOT TO ANSWER FOR...

If we win, there will be opportunity to take care of Kavanaugh

[delisen]

11. Can you express the agenda items in positive terms

as well.

It is a good list and I know many voters who desperately need a vision to reach for. For example can income inequality also be expressed as some how a range that is desirable or optimal.

or jobs expressed as maybe meaningful work that can support a family or a middle class lifestyle.

I need to try to formulate these and that is why I man asking

[lancelyons]

12. We have way more voters than them.

We should stop being afraid of their voters which is what you are sort of doing.

We should make a stand not crumble in fear of their voters.

[totodeinhere]

14. We may have more voters than them but that hasn't stopped them from keeping control of the House for

the past few years. We need to be smart about this.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

49. Yup, sick of playing it safe... where does that get us?!

[LiberalLovinLug]

18. No no no. The exact opposite

As someone said on here, they will use that anyways.

Why are Democrats so afraid to go on the offensive? Have they forgotten how? Do they not realize that they'd get more voters coming out, and galvanize the ones that usually vote, if they showed a little backbone?

This election issue was handed to them on a platter and STILL this Coons turns his nose up at it. And encourages the party to follow suit. I am literally aghast....again. They are making the same mistake they make over and over. Lets not disturb the apple cart or we may spill a few apples. No...your harvest will multiply.

You have a giant rotten apple sitting there on top of the cart. And those that put it there are hoping you just shut up about it now that its there. Democrats must have more faith in the fact that voters want them to show some grit. Not only should they NOT be quiet about it, they should be using the Kavanaugh appointment as a central issue.

[ewagner]

24. Not eve 24 hours after the vote....

and Trump, McConnel and the rest of the Republican Spin Machine are already spewing a common talking point.

"Don't give an arsonist (us) a book of matches"

"Don't turn Government over to an angry mob" (us again)

Do we need to feed into their meme?

Should we act like Kavanaugh did during the hearing or should we act like Dr. Ford?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Naaaiiiiiled it!!! Time to show some backbone... promise to impeach these assholes

and watch voters turn out for Democrats in droves!

[SWBTATTReg]

8. It may be too early to talk about this but I guarantee you that the repugs will accuse ...

us / democratic party of plotting to do this anyway. So why not go ahead and talk about it? They (repugs) are going to accuse us of everything under the sun and moon anyways.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. Ding, ding, ding!! We hava winna!!

[Autumn]

9. Yes it is and dangerous too. We wait until after we take control and strike,

till then they need to keep impeachment, Trumps and BK's, out of the conversation.

[NurseJackie]

15. I agree. It's too soon.

[Submariner]

16. It's too soon. With luck rapey blackout Brett will get T-boned by a Peterbilt tractor first

making impeachment unnecessary.

[llmart]

17. One can dream, can't they?

I do believe that if the headlines were to say trump had a massive coronary there would be parties in the streets and celebrations. Wonder how it feels to know you're that hated when you're nearing death? Neither McConnell or Trump or Kavanaugh will ever get a funeral like McCain. None of them has ever contributed anything to our country that's worthwhile.

[They_Live]

19. So simple majority vote to confirm, but

two thirds to impeach. Doesn't really make sense. Did McCONnell set that up...seems illegal.

[cstanleytech]

22. Mitch had nothing to do with the requirement of 2/3 to impeach someone from office that was done

by the founding fathers hundreds of years ago.
Why? At a guess because they only wanted someone impeached if they truly deserved it rather than because a slim minority controlled the Senate.

[47of74]

20. If we make gains in one or both chambers there better not be any of this taking stuff off the table

Impeaching Rapey Brett and Spanky McFuckstick absolutely have to be on the table. Nailed, pliered, and blowtorched to the table surrounded by sharp, pointy spikes spikes and electric fence to keep the milquetoast set our party is infected from trying to take it off.

[cstanleytech]

23. Its not that its off the table its more like its down near where the desserts area and we cannot

have any until after we eat our dinner with dinner in this case being gaining enough seats to make any talk of impeachment possible which right now with the Repugnants its simply not.

[cstanleytech]

21. He is right that its premature in that we do not have anywhere near the votes and the earliest we

could win that number would be 2020 and we would need to win a hell of alot of seats to get to the 67 votes to impeach anyone without any of the Repugnants in Congress support.

[Hekate]

25. It's called counting your chickens before they're hatched. There is no Dem majority as of 10-6-2018

Why insist our Senators and Representatives talk about this at this very moment?

[JNelson6563]

27. Campaigning on that would fire up the right.

Sometimes it is wise to apply strategy.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. And what strategy is that?

[yurbud]

55. let Republicans win.

[JNelson6563]

61. I think there's going to be some very dirty money evidence

with all sorts of receipts. Not the sort of thing dismissed with a "oh it's he said/she said". When that evidence is in hand it's full steam ahead.

I realize many here believe Dems should scream all of their plans and possible actions now but that is unwise. One might say rookie mistakes.

[pansypoo53219]

29. just wait for the facs& more abuse.

time for calm. not pitchforks AND TIKI TORCHES. we are scaring fragile white males.

[beachbum bob]

54. Total agree with Coons, we should remain silent.

Why give them red meat issues?