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pstokely

(10,530 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:36 PM Oct 2018

Liberal groups won't support Democrats backing Kavanaugh

Source: Reuters

Democrats have organized to oppose Kavanaugh, with opposition intensifying after Christine Blasey Ford last month accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were teenagers.

Bredesen, who polls indicate is locked in a dead heat for the Tennessee seat being vacated by a Republican, said in a statement Friday that he would have voted for Kavanaugh had he been in the Senate. Manchin, who is leading in his re-election bid to represent conservative-leaning West Virginia, said Friday that he will back Kavanaugh in the final senate confirmation vote expected on Saturday.

MoveOn said on Twitter it has canceled campaigning for Manchin and would also cancel more than $100,000 worth of online advertising it had planned to buy in support of Bredesen.

Priorities USA has not yet spent any money to support either candidate and will not do so following their support of Kavanaugh, spokesman Josh Schwerin said in a phone interview.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-kavanaugh-election/liberal-groups-wont-support-democrats-backing-kavanaugh-idUSKCN1MF2GM

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Liberal groups won't support Democrats backing Kavanaugh (Original Post) pstokely Oct 2018 OP
Good. Fucking Good! Firestorm49 Oct 2018 #1
Republicans keeping the Senate is fucking good? SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #53
!!!! ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #2
I hope rtracey Oct 2018 #3
in 6 years elleng Oct 2018 #5
fuck them rtracey Oct 2018 #55
Wouldn't it be just SWELL if marsha blackburn becomes Tennessee's next senator? elleng Oct 2018 #4
It's a problem. What do you do with a candidate who opposes his own political party? Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #7
Tho I don't live there, elleng Oct 2018 #11
Exactly... info held back Maggiemayhem Oct 2018 #14
It's not clear at all SharonClark Oct 2018 #23
Phil is a good man. He was a great Governor and he will be a great Senator. redstateblues Oct 2018 #29
It's not that complicated. Vote for the Democrat. yardwork Oct 2018 #39
Marsha is the foulest person in politics. Bredesen was strategic with his letter. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #10
Yes, you've said it well. elleng Oct 2018 #12
Exactly. dchill Oct 2018 #26
A lot of people in this thread obviously don't live in red states redstateblues Oct 2018 #28
THIS k-dub Oct 2018 #49
In a limited resource world, I'd rather see the money allocated to Heitkamp and McCaskill. Gore1FL Oct 2018 #16
I agree. roamer65 Oct 2018 #19
Agree SharonClark Oct 2018 #22
The fight is bigger than just defeating Marsha Blackburn Yavin4 Oct 2018 #46
Membership in the rich white male club is more important than political party to some. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #6
I believe Manchin's political career is finished. democratisphere Oct 2018 #8
This move won't get him any votes. LeftInTX Oct 2018 #18
The W. VA. teachers will have something to say about Manchin... nt Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #20
I said before the vote..there are Democratic Voters in West VA INdemo Oct 2018 #45
Manchin is a DINO. nt Hotler Oct 2018 #9
Someone will alert on this. Lunabell Oct 2018 #13
Good Call On Manchin... LovingA2andMI Oct 2018 #15
Agreed 1000 percent!!! blueinredohio Oct 2018 #30
This denbot Oct 2018 #17
Because we'd rather have a Republican? radical noodle Oct 2018 #21
Exactly! BlueMTexpat Oct 2018 #24
Manchin Bear Creek Oct 2018 #25
He has a d next to his name. That d, added with all of the other Ds matter tymorial Oct 2018 #32
The election next month is NOT a primary radical noodle Oct 2018 #37
Did he vote for Mitch McConnell Sgent Oct 2018 #50
In a world where we had unlimited $, we could afford to spread it all around. lark Oct 2018 #36
Don't forget Manchin isn't the only one radical noodle Oct 2018 #41
Not sure about Breseden? lark Oct 2018 #43
Yes he would radical noodle Oct 2018 #44
We need this seat if we want to block future trump judges Gothmog Oct 2018 #34
Mancin votes for Repug judges, almost always. lark Oct 2018 #38
Bredesen said he would have voted FOR Trumps judge KelleyKramer Oct 2018 #52
Well we didn't want the senate anyway tymorial Oct 2018 #27
Let's just hand Corkers seat over to Marsha Blackheart. That'll show em! redstateblues Oct 2018 #31
Yep. Playing purity politics is how we got here in the first place. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #33
Marsha is a horrible person Gothmog Oct 2018 #35
Exactly. yardwork Oct 2018 #40
Good ellie Oct 2018 #42
Manchin rickyhall Oct 2018 #47
Agreed Bear Creek Oct 2018 #54
Good. Rizen Oct 2018 #48
If the GOP control the Senate after the midterms, Lindsey Graham will be the head of the Judiciary Gothmog Oct 2018 #51
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
55. fuck them
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:08 PM
Oct 2018

In 6 years in fucking 20 year, 50 years.....this party must take back our country, and we must do it soon. The house is a start... Senate will be tough, but could happen.... I'M not counting on that, but a nice NOVEMBER surprise would be nice......

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. It's a problem. What do you do with a candidate who opposes his own political party?
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:47 PM
Oct 2018

It's a problem.

I hope all this says about him is that he didn't bother to watch the hearing.

elleng

(131,028 posts)
11. Tho I don't live there,
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:55 PM
Oct 2018

I understand that Bredesen was a very good, progressive, and popular governor. Getting him into the Senate is important to me, especially to keep her OUT.

He said: "While the subsequent events make it a much closer call, and I am missing key pieces of information that a sitting Senator has, I’m still a ‘yes'." https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/tn-elections/2018/10/05/key-kavanaugh-vote-u-s-senate-begins-bredesen-says-he-supports-nominee/1524565002/

Clearly, IF repugs had permitted full disclosure, and a decent FBI investigation, things would be different for many.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
23. It's not clear at all
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:50 AM
Oct 2018

"Clearly, IF repugs had permitted full disclosure, and a decent FBI investigation, things would be different for many."

No, it probably wouldn't make a difference to many because most people have made up their minds on Kavenaugh.

Then there are politicians like Bredesen who put their finger in the wind and state how they WOULD vote if they WERE in the Senate. Egads, is anyone stupider and more obvious than a politician betraying their party to get votes?

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
29. Phil is a good man. He was a great Governor and he will be a great Senator.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:18 AM
Oct 2018

People on a lot of these anti Bredesen threads don’t know what it’s like to have Marsha Blackheart for their Representative. I do. What a great idea it is to hand the seat to her.

yardwork

(61,678 posts)
39. It's not that complicated. Vote for the Democrat.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:20 AM
Oct 2018

After we regain the majority, we will have time to focus on nuance.

Funtatlaguy

(10,884 posts)
10. Marsha is the foulest person in politics. Bredesen was strategic with his letter.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:54 PM
Oct 2018

Politics ain’t always black and white....shades of gray are often necessary.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
28. A lot of people in this thread obviously don't live in red states
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:12 AM
Oct 2018

It’s time to move on to November. Bredesen can win in TN. Anyone who wants to hand over Corker’s seat to the odious Blackburn is foolish. That kind of thinking will ensure the Democratic Party will stay in the minority in the Senate.

 

k-dub

(97 posts)
49. THIS
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:10 PM
Oct 2018

I know it is tempting to want to reject moderates, but we HAVE to become the party of moderation.

Yes I know that's a new thing in my view as I am a solid Liberal on nearly all issues, but we must support moderates, ESPECIALLY those in red states. If not we get Blackburn, who is a horrible human.

Gore1FL

(21,134 posts)
16. In a limited resource world, I'd rather see the money allocated to Heitkamp and McCaskill.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:42 PM
Oct 2018

Don't get me wrong. I would love to see us take every seat. I'd love it if every Democrat's coffers were overflowing. I respect MoveOn's decision to put their money where their values are. If I got to pick two, I'd rather win with McCaskill and Heitkamp than with Bresden and Manchin.

Your Mileage May Vary.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
46. The fight is bigger than just defeating Marsha Blackburn
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:39 PM
Oct 2018

You have to stand for something. Fight for something real. People support principles first, candidates second.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. Membership in the rich white male club is more important than political party to some.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 08:46 PM
Oct 2018

"We guys gotta stick together. We're white, we're rich, but boy have we had it tough. Women just don't understand us."

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
45. I said before the vote..there are Democratic Voters in West VA
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:50 PM
Oct 2018

And he cannot be re-elected without them going to the polls and voting. I believe they will stay home and we lose that seat..

He should just switch parties so we could run a real Democrat against him

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
15. Good Call On Manchin...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:31 PM
Oct 2018

Bredesen is not in the Senate YET so at this point, he should be supported until his votes in the Senate prove otherwise.

However, take the Money wasted on Manchin, DON'T WASTE ANOTHER DIME ---> AND MOVE IT TO ND where HEIDI HEITKAMP NEEDS THE HELP!

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
24. Exactly!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:13 AM
Oct 2018

Manchin is better than ANY GOPer!

But the purists never see beyond the ends of their noses, which is one reason why we are in this mess in the first place.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
25. Manchin
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:52 AM
Oct 2018

He is a Republican. He just can't run and win on republican ticket so he runs as a democrat. Jim Justice has not been a lesson learned yet?

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
32. He has a d next to his name. That d, added with all of the other Ds matter
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:27 AM
Oct 2018

It determines who runs the committees. Without a majority we could very likely end up with 6 justices on scotus instead of 5. Do you want that? Ginsberg is old. I love her but she is old and can't live forever. Look at Scalia, no one expected him to die.

radical noodle

(8,008 posts)
37. The election next month is NOT a primary
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:17 AM
Oct 2018

That's the time to challenge Manchin, not in the general election. It's ridiculous to think we'd rather have a Republican.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
50. Did he vote for Mitch McConnell
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:51 PM
Oct 2018

for Senate Majority Leader?

Because I don't believe that Chuck Schumer would have brought Kavanaugh to the floor for a vote.

lark

(23,134 posts)
36. In a world where we had unlimited $, we could afford to spread it all around.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:17 AM
Oct 2018

However, when Heitkamp and McCaskill demonstrated our values and Mancin demonstrated he doesn't care about women, doesn't trust them and likes RW rapists & liars more - well who deserves the $$ more? WV knows Mancin is s repug pretending to be a Dem, that's not the same with Heitkamp & McCaskill. Give the limited $$ to those that deserve it. I'd rather lose Mancin than either one of the 2 women. I'd still rather Mancin win than his opponent, because Mancin is 61% Reug, the other guy will be 100%, but he's far ahead and made this craven vote for a rapist, so he's on his own and will probably win anyway.

radical noodle

(8,008 posts)
41. Don't forget Manchin isn't the only one
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:24 AM
Oct 2018

they're cutting loose. We know very well what Blackburn is like. Do we want her on the Senate?

lark

(23,134 posts)
43. Not sure about Breseden?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:37 AM
Oct 2018

If he would confirm a rapist, then would he be any better than her? Would it still not be good to put $$ with McCskill and keep her who will vote against rapist, than get Breseden (not sure about spelling) and a different guy from NB and have 2 votes for rapists? In a world of limited $$, spend according to values and reality. if there's enough, run a smaller buy for TN, but no major expenditures for women hating asses.

lark

(23,134 posts)
38. Mancin votes for Repug judges, almost always.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:18 AM
Oct 2018

He does nothing for us in that or almost all areas. Name the last time he voted like an actual Democrat on something really important.

KelleyKramer

(8,980 posts)
52. Bredesen said he would have voted FOR Trumps judge
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:00 PM
Oct 2018

And Manchin voted FOR Trumps judge

If you are looking to block Trump judges then they are NOT who you want in our party

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
54. Agreed
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:53 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Senate-confirms-Kavanaugh-how-our-senators-voted-495354671.html

Despite Democrats and demonstrators venting their rage and resistance, U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) was once again a key vote in confirming Kavanaugh. Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is opposed, but voted “present” as a courtesy to another Republican who is out of town

Will repeat he is a republican who could not run on republican ticket. Time for the democrats to back democrat candidates quit grooming republican candidates.

Gothmog

(145,427 posts)
51. If the GOP control the Senate after the midterms, Lindsey Graham will be the head of the Judiciary
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:57 PM
Oct 2018

Committee. I do not want Lindsey Graham to be the head of the Judiciary Committee. I will work hard to elect Beto but I will also donate to Bresden and Manchin

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