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brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:48 AM Sep 2018

Ford friend says she doesn't recall party where alleged assault occurred

Source: The Hill

A longtime friend of Christine Blasey Ford, the woman accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, says she does not know the Supreme Court nominee or remember attending a party with him.

Leland Keyser, who characterized herself as a friend of Ford's, said through a lawyer that she "does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

Keyser's statement—which was circulated by the White House and given to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Saturday night—comes as Republican Senate staffers have been working to identify and interview potential witnesses to the alleged incident.

Read more: https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/407950-senate-ford-friend-says-she-doesnt-recall-party-where-alleged-assault

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Ford friend says she doesn't recall party where alleged assault occurred (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2018 OP
Friend tells the Washington Post she believes Ford! jezebel321 Sep 2018 #1
and it isn't surprising that the Hil tries to leave a different implication, by omission of still_one Sep 2018 #3
It's not just the Hill watoos Sep 2018 #13
Leland Geyser liberal from boston Oct 2018 #33
Great catch and welcome to DU! suffragette Sep 2018 #29
F*k the hill and politico for that matter. More than anything they go out of their way to push still_one Sep 2018 #2
That's not an assertion that she wasn't present. nt greyl Sep 2018 #4
Well, yeah...there are people who are not witnesses (duh?) forgotmylogin Sep 2018 #5
She is one of the people Ford named as being at the party oberliner Sep 2018 #7
Sounds a valid defense if the house were one room only. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #34
Dr. Ford liberal from boston Sep 2018 #28
I... don't understand the point? I'm sure Ford's parents weren't at the party either... DRoseDARs Sep 2018 #6
"Leland Keyser, a woman Ford told The Washington Post was present at the party..." oberliner Sep 2018 #8
The larger excerpt makes sense. She was an attendee but not a witness. Ford's camp said that. DRoseDARs Sep 2018 #9
#facknews ! stonecutter357 Sep 2018 #10
Me thinks someone is lying (Keyser) She doesn't want to be implicated. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #11
Yeah I think that too. watoos Sep 2018 #14
Do you remember everything you did 30 years ago? LisaL Sep 2018 #16
Why would she remember this? Ford said that she wouldn't remember. yardwork Sep 2018 #17
Exactly Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #22
I cannot fathom how some folks lake the BASIC Critical Thinking skills that are so evident that you still_one Sep 2018 #30
Right. Also doesn't sound like much of a party. Hortensis Sep 2018 #24
30+ years, a lot of drinking, death threats, public shaming by RePubics... SayItLoud Sep 2018 #20
Leland Keyser is ex-wife of FOX Bob Beckel riverwalker Sep 2018 #23
So you believe Ford when she says it happened qazplm135 Sep 2018 #26
+1, this implicit strawman is being repeated by FAUX News constantly uponit7771 Oct 2018 #36
Hope it's not like Woodstock bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #12
Think back decades. Would you remember a party you weren't attacked at? Vinca Sep 2018 #15
I wonder if some right wing money has changed hands SkatmanRoth Sep 2018 #18
Why would she remember a random party where nothing happened to her? NickB79 Sep 2018 #19
This MiniMe Sep 2018 #25
She is Bob Beckels ex-wife. riverwalker Sep 2018 #21
Predators try to separate their vicitms from the crowd csziggy Sep 2018 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author clementine613 Sep 2018 #31
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that she's lying to protect him. clementine613 Sep 2018 #32
I s'pose even the exes of a Fox News contributor and friend of Roger Ailes and Cal Thomas should be LanternWaste Oct 2018 #35

jezebel321

(278 posts)
1. Friend tells the Washington Post she believes Ford!
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:52 AM
Sep 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lawyers-for-christine-blasey-ford-say-she-has-accepted-senate-judiciary-committees-request-to-testify-against-kavanaugh/2018/09/22/e8199c6a-be8f-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.a6d880ca4c4c

"As negotiations continued, Leland Keyser, a woman Ford told The Washington Post was present at the party where she alleges Kavanaugh assaulted her, came forward to say she had “no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present,” according to an email her lawyer sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee, obtained by The Post. In a brief interview at her home in Silver Spring, Keyser said she was close friends with Ford and that she believes Ford’s allegation.

Before her name became public, Ford told The Post she did not think Keyser would remember the party because nothing remarkable had happened there, as far as Keyser was aware. Ford has said she did not tell anyone about the alleged assault until 2012.

“It’s not surprising that Ms Keyser has no recollection of the evening as they did not discuss it,” Katz said in a statement. “It’s also unremarkable that Ms. Keyser does not remember attending a specific gathering 30 years ago at which nothing of consequence happened to her. Dr. Ford of course will never forget this gathering because of what happened to her there.”

still_one

(92,204 posts)
3. and it isn't surprising that the Hil tries to leave a different implication, by omission of
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:30 AM
Sep 2018

facts.

It is a disgrace what is now referred to journalism today in this country



 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. It's not just the Hill
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:22 AM
Sep 2018

and it has been going on for a very long time. The M$M pushes the right wing narrative, including msnbc which I regularly watch. There are good journalists, I even watch Shep Smith once in a while, but if they stray from the narrative too far and too long they end up like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Martin Brashear, Melissa Harris Perry, who was the guy, I forget his name, who went nuts reporting on crony capitalism, he used to work for CNN money then went to msnbc, he was one of my favorites, oh yeah Dylan Ratigan, etc. etc.

The fact that msnbc has fired so many news anchors shows that it comes the closest to reporting the truth, but it only comes close.

33. Leland Geyser
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:01 PM
Oct 2018

Also Leland Geyser stated that she is good friends w/Dr Ford & believed that the attempted rape happened.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
2. F*k the hill and politico for that matter. More than anything they go out of their way to push
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:28 AM
Sep 2018

rightwing innuendo, and produce headlines OUT OF CONTEXT.

Frankly I question the wisdom of using these rags as sources for LBN, since many times they represent more gossip rags than actual journalism.

The fact that Ms. Ford NEVER discussed this incident with her friends seems not to be important to the context of this story by The Hill, nor does the fact that hidden in the small print the friend doesn't remember any party with Ford or Cavanaugh, and that her friend believes Ford.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
5. Well, yeah...there are people who are not witnesses (duh?)
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:03 AM
Sep 2018

I didn't know everyone at my high school either. They're trying to defend Kavanaugh by proving a negative - "Look, there are people at the school who never heard of this incident! Therefore it couldn't possibly have happened!"

Is their logic that Dr. Ford told everyone she was in contact with about the incident? If her friend didn't know Kavanaugh, why would she tell them? She's only opening up about it publicly now. I don't tell all my friends every detail I know about everything that happens.

28. Dr. Ford
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:49 PM
Sep 2018

Also, the party was in a home & the attempted rape happened in a locked bedroom. How she escaped was when Mark Judge jumped on top of Kavanaugh & three of them fell on the floor, was able to get out & she locked herself in an upstairs bathroom.
 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
6. I... don't understand the point? I'm sure Ford's parents weren't at the party either...
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:46 AM
Sep 2018

...Probably don't know Brett. Therefore, no attempted rape? Have they interviewed her priest yet? Maybe he was in the hall outside the bedroom knocking back brews?

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
9. The larger excerpt makes sense. She was an attendee but not a witness. Ford's camp said that.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:05 AM
Sep 2018

Team Rapist is touting it as she doesn't remember therefore no rape.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. Yeah I think that too.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:25 AM
Sep 2018

She doesn't want death threats. Why not just a simple, "I don't recall?" She took the time to go to a lawyer to just put out that simple response, a response by the way that won't get her in trouble regarding perjury.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
17. Why would she remember this? Ford said that she wouldn't remember.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:56 AM
Sep 2018

The only reason Ford remembers is because she was assaulted.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
22. Exactly
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:52 AM
Sep 2018

Ford says (IIRC) that she told no one about this until 2012 when she and her husband were in couples therapy. To her friend, it was likely one of dozens of high school parties where alcohol was served.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
30. I cannot fathom how some folks lake the BASIC Critical Thinking skills that are so evident that you
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:56 PM
Sep 2018

just pointed out


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Right. Also doesn't sound like much of a party.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 10:00 AM
Sep 2018

We often tried one and went off to another, and another. Who remembers those, only that that's what they and their friends "did"?

I do remember that as a mother I once got up in the small hours to drive over an hour and a half to pick up our 15- or 16-year-old daughter, who had started at a sleepover that turned into a sneak-out to a party, which was boooring, but they met friends who knew a better one, so...

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
20. 30+ years, a lot of drinking, death threats, public shaming by RePubics...
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:42 AM
Sep 2018

I would find my memory seriously questionable too....out of necessity and survival. The tactics to silence are brutal and with the LessEds and cultists of tRUMP very dangerous.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
26. So you believe Ford when she says it happened
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:35 AM
Sep 2018

But don't believe her when she says she didn't tell anyone?

Why would this woman know anything?

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
15. Think back decades. Would you remember a party you weren't attacked at?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:31 AM
Sep 2018

Kids go to lots of parties. Unless something special happens, it's a blur.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
18. I wonder if some right wing money has changed hands
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:08 AM
Sep 2018

It would be a drop in the bucket for someone like the Kochs to drop off a suitcase full of dollar bills on 'somebody's' doorstep.

It would be interesting to check recent transactions on Ms. Keyser's, Mr. Judge, and Mr. Smyth's financial records.

NickB79

(19,246 posts)
19. Why would she remember a random party where nothing happened to her?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:41 AM
Sep 2018

I've been to a ton of college parties, and only remember a few with really good clarity, because something memorable happened there. Met a girlfriend, friend puked on my shoes, drove through a blizzard to get there, etc.

The boring, shitty parties are just vague blurs after 20 years. Who vividly recalls sitting around on a beatup old couch playing Nintendo while getting shit-faced drinking cheap beer?

Was this friend in the room when the assault occurred?

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
25. This
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:12 AM
Sep 2018

It was a high school party, and there was beer being consumed. The drinking age was 18 at that point in time. I went to lots of parties back then, well, actually a few years earlier than when this party occurred as I am a few years older than Kavanaugh. People just showed up at those parties, and you didn't meet everybody who was there. And you would never know if something happened in a bedroom. And there were a lot of parties.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
27. Predators try to separate their vicitms from the crowd
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:58 AM
Sep 2018

Chances are - IF this woman was one of Dr. Ford's friends in high school - that Kavanaugh and Judge either made sure that Ford's friends were NOT at the party when she was attacked by not inviting Ford's friends or caught Ford at a time when she was outside of her regular group.

That is what predators do - they cut their chosen prey from the herd or wait for a chance at an isolated victim.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
35. I s'pose even the exes of a Fox News contributor and friend of Roger Ailes and Cal Thomas should be
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:17 PM
Oct 2018

heard... even if what they have to say is without relevance.

("Hey Lantern--- do you specifically remember that party in 1983 when nothing happened to you, and you left out of boredom...?&quot

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