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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:41 PM Sep 2018

Senate GOP makes counteroffer to Kavanaugh accuser with Friday deadline

Source: Politico


The Senate GOP is offering to hold the hearing on Wednesday after Ford asked for a Thursday hearing.

By ELANA SCHOR and BURGESS EVERETT 09/21/2018 09:32 AM EDT Updated 09/21/2018 01:34 PM EDT

UPDATE 1:33 p.m.:

The Senate Judiciary Committee is giving Christine Blasey Ford attorney’s until the end of the day Friday to work out terms of next week’s proposed hearing on Ford’s allegations that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her, according to a Republican senator.

Senate GOP is offering to hold the hearing on Wednesday after Ford asked for a Thursday hearing and is meeting some of Ford’s requests but not others, the senator said.

“We’ll do it on Wednesday, we expect the accuser before the accused and we do intend to have the counsel do the questioning,” the senator said, summing up the Republicans’ stance. The party is OK with limiting the hearing to one camera as requested by Ford and has also “acquiesced” to Ford’s request that Kavanaugh not be in the same room as her, the senator said.

GOP members of the Judiciary Committee held a conference call on Friday morning to discuss how to respond to Ford’s requests on Thursday. And barring new revelations, the party plans to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination in Judiciary Committee shortly after hearing her testimony next week.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/21/trump-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-charges-834664

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Senate GOP makes counteroffer to Kavanaugh accuser with Friday deadline (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Cowards. awesomerwb1 Sep 2018 #1
Days ago Eleven Angry Republicans were relishing the idea of verbally raping Citizen Ford in Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #5
it smells to high heaven too. bdamomma Sep 2018 #9
How the tables have turned...now they are afraid of the optics...cowards, but we already knew that. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #10
freaking Grassley doesn't know what to do. bdamomma Sep 2018 #14
The coffin may not be sealed just yet but the hammering has begun. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #15
..or a posse of possums... jmbar2 Sep 2018 #22
They are crumbling under the weight of hundreds of millions of angry Americans. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #24
Choose 60 minute interview DUgosh Sep 2018 #2
I think..... Gregory Peccary Sep 2018 #12
Yes of course DUgosh Sep 2018 #19
On Rachel Maddow's show jmbar2 Sep 2018 #23
Smart! She'd also dominate the news after the hearing. bettyellen Sep 2018 #27
Power game. Turbineguy Sep 2018 #3
GOP weakness is evident in this negotiation; Turtle's hard-line is slipping. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #4
The "party"? What party. Whatta joke. sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #7
hmm this article is very telling bdamomma Sep 2018 #11
Be. The. Case. Yes! sprinkleeninow Sep 2018 #13
They're going to try to burn her at the stake jmbar2 Sep 2018 #6
Citizen Ford is obviously never going to give the Eleven Angry Republicans any chance of a burning. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #16
Oh FFS Gregory Peccary Sep 2018 #8
No deal. Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #17
She doesn't have much choice. This is about as good as she's going to get FBaggins Sep 2018 #20
Unfortunately, you're almost certainly right... regnaD kciN Sep 2018 #29
11 white guys afraid to question a woman isn't going to play DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #18
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if K withdraws before then. MGKrebs Sep 2018 #21
Well if he denies that it happened Dan Sep 2018 #30
Plus, he should consider this Dan Sep 2018 #31
I want him to be forced to explain his yearbook phrases. torius Sep 2018 #25
If no investigation they will ambush her with a special prosecutor type person to do the Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #26
i don't understand why they don't just withdraw and pick another nominee. Kurt V. Sep 2018 #28
What about the FBI investigation? scipan Sep 2018 #32

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Days ago Eleven Angry Republicans were relishing the idea of verbally raping Citizen Ford in
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:48 PM
Sep 2018

public...thinking it would be not be a political disaster and could steamroll over the whole issue.

Then they heard from about 100 Million Angery Women Voters and one Good Woman Lawyer...and are running as scared as they have ever been...hoisted on their own petard of hypocrisy.

One thing about a Republican politicians...they can smell the air and the air is rank with voter anger.

bdamomma

(63,919 posts)
9. it smells to high heaven too.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:02 PM
Sep 2018

so corrupt all of them, I get sick when I see them they (McConnell and his band of Thugs) look like a posse.

bdamomma

(63,919 posts)
14. freaking Grassley doesn't know what to do.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:12 PM
Sep 2018

the repigs are toast if they put this SOB on the Supreme Court. They will have hell to pay. Didn't Kavanaugh have chances before and he blew it, what a fucking tool. We all know this will be the nail in Repigs coffins, and right now do not play with women voters cause we will burn them.

Gregory Peccary

(490 posts)
12. I think.....
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Fri Sep 21, 2018, 03:07 PM - Edit history (1)

...... she should do a major TV interview the night of the hearing, not before the hearing. That way she won't give the lawyers any time to prepare for what she might say. And she would still be able get her message out to the American public as well as address events of the hearing.

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
3. Power game.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:45 PM
Sep 2018

Republican style.

Comes from weakness. The people who vote for them are weak. That's how they get in power.

bdamomma

(63,919 posts)
11. hmm this article is very telling
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/conservative-columnist-melts-kavanaugh-defeat-will-show-resistance-effective-can-destroy-gop/

Conservative columnist melts down: A Kavanaugh defeat will show the ‘resistance is effective’ and can destroy the GOP Title

we can only hope this is the case.

jmbar2

(4,906 posts)
6. They're going to try to burn her at the stake
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:52 PM
Sep 2018

Makes me feel really sad for the women of the Supreme Court if they have to work with Kreepy Kavanaugh.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. Citizen Ford is obviously never going to give the Eleven Angry Republicans any chance of a burning.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:15 PM
Sep 2018

As is now plain as day.

Freethinker65

(10,043 posts)
17. No deal.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:42 PM
Sep 2018

No questioning by counsel, only by the Senators. Counsel does not get to vote for Kavanaugh's confirmation, only Senators do. The Senators need to ask their own questions to make up their own minds on Kavanaugh's honesty, character, integrity, and ethics.

I can understand having Dr. Ford go first, so they know what to ask Kavanaugh about...however, Kavanaugh must not see nor hear of any of Ford's testimony prior to his questioning or at least he needs to be alone with no means to contact others. This is a deal breaker. He does not get time to prep and consult with WH, Senators, and spinmeisters on how best to counteract her live testimony. He can prepare by having access to her opening statement and/or any paperwork she makes available to the committtee prior to her testimony.

The GOP plans to confirm Kavanaugh even if admits to it. They believe this is all for show and they have the votes. Silencing individual rights while promoting those of corporations, the NRA, and Christian zealots and denying women access to reproductive healthcare and equal opportunities is crucial for the GOP. Trump needs someone on the court that believes the President is omnipotent. We NEED some Senators with open minds to weigh what is said and determine if this man, Kavanaugh, really is deserving of a seat on the highest court.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
20. She doesn't have much choice. This is about as good as she's going to get
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 03:27 PM
Sep 2018

They can pretend that they tried to meet her halfway... but the simple fact is (IMO) they would prefer that she refuse to testify (which ends it and they move to confirmation).

And there's absolutely zero chance that anyone would agree to him not being able to hear what she says. Someone accused of a crime has a right to hear the accusation and they also have a right to avail themselves of counsel before replying.

The GOP plans to confirm Kavanaugh even if admits to it. They believe this is all for show and they have the votes.

I wouldn't say so. There are clearly at least two Republicans who have said that they would vote against him if he was lying about it. He might have gotten past them by admitting it with an "I was young and stupid and did things that I would never EVER consider now" - but once he denied the charges he can't go back. The previous spin that he had perjured himself during the hearings was wishful thinking based on speculation that was very unlikely to be provable... but this would be a clear lie.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
29. Unfortunately, you're almost certainly right...
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 04:49 PM
Sep 2018

Say no, and Republicans will shrug and say “we tried” and move on to confirmation.

McYurtle claims to already have the votes, meaning that the only way Teen Rapist can be stopped is if the Professor makes a convincing enough appearance to get some shaky ayes to switch to know. And that “convincing enough appearance” can include “a hearing which makes Republicans look like phonies determined to disregard a woman’s testimony.” Polish isn’t needed, sincerity and passion are.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
18. 11 white guys afraid to question a woman isn't going to play
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018

well on TV. They'll be bigger laughingstocks than if they all showed up in their underwear.

I'm sure every Dem senator who asks questions will point out their colleagues are too scared to ask questions themselves.

The Rs had the advantage for a few days, but as soon as they signaled they were willing to negotiate terms of her appearance, that disappeared. Now they're back to trying to set artificial deadlines which won't work since Dr Ford has said she's willing to testify.

It's too bad Dr Ford does not want Kavanaugh in the same room with her because I believe he would slink away like the coward he is if confronted by her.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
21. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if K withdraws before then.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 03:28 PM
Sep 2018

He surely doesn't want to go up there and say "I didn't do it" or even "I have no recollection" over and over under oath. Not with her documented history.

Dan

(3,579 posts)
30. Well if he denies that it happened
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:12 PM
Sep 2018

and he was a party to the event, then in the future when the Democratic party gains control of the house and senate, they can demand an investigation by the FBI, everyone under oath....and guess what Supreme Court Justice, you can be impeached. And that impeachment might be worse than withdrawal now...due to the stress this has put your family under.

Dan

(3,579 posts)
31. Plus, he should consider this
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:15 PM
Sep 2018

when they finally put Trump under the gun, he will sing like a bird, about everything, the deals, why Mr. Kennedy retired so early, and what the agreement is between him and the supreme court nominee.

torius

(1,652 posts)
25. I want him to be forced to explain his yearbook phrases.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 04:24 PM
Sep 2018

If he "can't remember" then other alumni would be able to.
FFFFFourth of July... Find her feel her, fuck her, forget her...

I sorta wonder if that's when the party was, if he and his pal were seeking a Devil's Triangle that day.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
26. If no investigation they will ambush her with a special prosecutor type person to do the
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 04:28 PM
Sep 2018

questioning so they dont look bad

Nah, too late for talk, much worse situation this country is in and talk wont fix it

I wish the Democratic party haters would stop posting

scipan

(2,356 posts)
32. What about the FBI investigation?
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:16 PM
Sep 2018

All of a sudden no one is even talking about that. Did I miss something?

I think people should keep calling for the FBI investigation first and not let themselves be derailled.

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