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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 05:34 PM Aug 2018

U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question

Source: The Washington Post


By Kevin Sieff
August 29 at 4:25 PM

PHARR, Tex. — On paper, he’s a devoted U.S. citizen.

His official American birth certificate shows he was delivered by a midwife in Brownsville, at the southern tip of Texas. He spent his life wearing American uniforms: three years as a private in the Army, then as a cadet in the Border Patrol and now as a state prison guard. But when Juan, 40, applied to renew his U.S. passport this year, the government’s response floored him. In a letter, the State Department said it didn’t believe he was an American citizen.

As he would later learn, Juan is one of a growing number of people whose official birth records show they were born in the United States but who are now being denied passports — their citizenship suddenly thrown into question. The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Hispanics along the border of using fraudulent birth certificates since they were babies, and it is undertaking a widespread crackdown on their citizenship.

In a statement, the State Department said that it “has not changed policy or practice regarding the adjudication of passport applications,” adding that “the U.S.-Mexico border region happens to be an area of the country where there has been a significant incidence of citizenship fraud.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-denying-passports-to-americans-along-the-border-throwing-their-citizenship-into-question/2018/08/29/1d630e84-a0da-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html

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U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
K&R burrowowl Aug 2018 #1
Why does this not suprise me hobby10113 Aug 2018 #20
From the Texas Democratic Party Gothmog Aug 2018 #2
Holy shit. This is unbelievable. mainer Aug 2018 #3
Unbelievable. Mrs. Overall Aug 2018 #4
They wouldn't know a real one from a fake one. justgamma Aug 2018 #5
WOW Gothmog Aug 2018 #6
This will result in a lawsuit in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #7
I'm sure Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.... SergeStorms Aug 2018 #9
Wrong department. Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #14
FWIW, ICE lawyers bring cases before the Executive Office for Immigration Review which is part alwaysinasnit Aug 2018 #21
I'm just saying.... SergeStorms Aug 2018 #24
They claimed a US President's documents were fake IronLionZion Aug 2018 #8
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #17
meanwhile Melania and her entire useless family get to be citizens JI7 Aug 2018 #10
So your US birth certificate, your US passport, your military service ID --- mainer Aug 2018 #11
Look at it this way Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #15
But hatching your presidency in Russia is Hokey-Dokey, right? bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #12
IMHO its all about votes and midterms... Maxheader Aug 2018 #13
Holy crap! MarvinGardens Aug 2018 #16
Calling the ACLU summer_in_TX Aug 2018 #18
I was born here as were my parents and grandparents. a la izquierda Aug 2018 #19
Used to intimidate duforsure Aug 2018 #22
that's how they can revoke their voter registrations (n/t) MissMillie Aug 2018 #23
Kick ck4829 Sep 2018 #25
We must call this what it is: An attempt by the Trump administration at ethnic cleansing Gothmog Sep 2018 #26

hobby10113

(51 posts)
20. Why does this not suprise me
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:00 AM
Aug 2018

I got my passport in 2010 after Arizona passed their papers please law. I have family there and felt I shouldn’t have to carry my birth certificate just to prove I’m an American. This whole thing sucks. November can’t come fast enough!

mainer

(12,022 posts)
3. Holy shit. This is unbelievable.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 05:53 PM
Aug 2018

Now you can't even use your birth certificate or your passport to prove you're American.

(Unless you're white.)

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. This will result in a lawsuit in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:10 PM
Aug 2018

What is the purpose of this depraved nonsense ? Lawsuits will go to court. People will be proved to be citizens. They will win the right to renew their passports. And the taxpayers will have to shoulder the burden for all of this.

Who is behind this stupidity ? Sounds like another heavy-handed move by Stephen Miller.

What (or who) is next ?

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
9. I'm sure Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III....
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:34 PM
Aug 2018

had a lot to do with it as well. As much as Trump says he has no confidence in Sessions, he and "Jeffie" are two peas in a pod when it comes to denying the rights of black and brown-skinned people.

These loathsome jerkoffs don't even come close to resembling human beings. They're fucking animals.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
14. Wrong department.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:34 PM
Aug 2018

Passports are the property of the U S Department of State, not Justice, so little Jeffy's tiny elf fingers really don't have the jurisdictional reach. And I doubt Pompeo would tolerate Sessions slithering onto policy in his domain.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
24. I'm just saying....
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:47 AM
Aug 2018

"Jeffie" is probably in on the decisions to deny minorities their rights, not in charge of implementing those decisions. Trump looks for all the ass-kissers he can find when making decisions. Anyone who won't kiss his ass is left out of the loop.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
8. They claimed a US President's documents were fake
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:29 PM
Aug 2018

So the administration that lies about everything is lying about people's documents. Anyone who isn't white, must have fake documents. Whiteness means born in America.

Why don't they go though the rural Trump areas and ask the whites living there for birth certificates. I want to see how many have them.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
10. meanwhile Melania and her entire useless family get to be citizens
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:37 PM
Aug 2018

becsuse they agree white and she married and willing to f a gross bigoted piece of shit.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
11. So your US birth certificate, your US passport, your military service ID ---
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:42 PM
Aug 2018

none of it will protect you from being deported.

How, exactly, are you supposed to prove where you were born if your birth certificate isn't good enough?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
15. Look at it this way
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:36 PM
Aug 2018

If they want you gone, nothing will stop them. Unless you've got enough $$$ to hire the best attorneys out there in time to forestall your departure.

summer_in_TX

(2,739 posts)
18. Calling the ACLU
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:13 AM
Aug 2018

Sure hope they have time and people resources to deal with this right away! The tRump administration is keeping them busy!

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
19. I was born here as were my parents and grandparents.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:18 AM
Aug 2018

But I’ll happily take deportation back to Ireland. Please.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
26. We must call this what it is: An attempt by the Trump administration at ethnic cleansing
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:48 AM
Sep 2018

From the Houston paper


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