Gay Marriage a Threat to Humanity's Future: Pope
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE8081RM20120109?irpc=932Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope
VATICAN CITY | Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:25pm EST
By Philip Pullella
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict said Monday that gay marriage was one of several threats to the traditional family that undermined "the future of humanity itself."
The pope made some of his strongest comments against gay marriage in a new year address to the diplomatic corps accredited to the Vatican in which he touched on some economic and social issues facing the world today.
He told diplomats from nearly 180 countries that the education of children needed proper "settings" and that "pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman."
"This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society. Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself," he said.
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closeupready
(29,503 posts)Solly Mack
(90,785 posts)SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)nanabugg
(2,198 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Unless one counts the hierarchy of the RCC a "society", I guess.
"Head of group of cohabitating celibate men decries non-celibacy among cohabitating men"
Weirdo.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)quakerboy
(13,921 posts)I am sure many former alter boys can testify to the lack of celibacy among the priesthood.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)patrick t. cakes
(1,783 posts)boppers
(16,588 posts)I'm nice that way.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)you know "any publicity is good publicity". Ignore the lame and his whole organization, maybe they'll go away.
provis99
(13,062 posts)What a maroon.
EvilAL
(1,437 posts)Not the gays, YOU!! asshole.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)CatholicEdHead
(9,740 posts)In the higher levels and ultra-conservative Catholic circles homosexual = pedophile. We know it is not true but that is the definition in their bubble to deflect blame from the Church to find a scapegoat. In ultra conservative Catholic circles they think as "the Church has never and will never do anything wrong". Deluded yes but that is the internal mindset.
/got this from way too much time in the Catholic Answers forum trying to talk some sense into them
Pisces
(5,602 posts)by transferring priests and paying hush money. Disgusting, vile behavior that continues to this day and yet they have
the temerity to deny people a commitment of marriage???
julian09
(1,435 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Him and his cult can go F%#%k themselves. These pedophiles should be put in jail.
derby378
(30,252 posts)Come on, Joseph. You're not helping your case, here.
Then again, silk slippers sound pretty good to me right now - my feet are tired.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)boppers
(16,588 posts)Same pie-chart works for nuclear nations.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Straights who won't marry and "shack up". Straights who use "evil" contraceptives, have abortions, get sterilized, and not have as many babies as GOD, not them, decides they should have. Straights who get divored and don't live until death do us part, or pay YOU for an annulment, are a theart to your "humanity".
No, dear Pope, your bggest threat to humanity aren't gays, but straights who have for over a generation shunned your views of "humanity". I, myself, saw through all this at the age of 15 in catholic school 50 years ago. I would be willing to bet I am not the first, nor the last, FEMALE to come to this conclusion.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...the local Bishop said anyone who supported Marriage Equality in NY was no longer welcome. I was told I was being silly...
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)7 Billion people in the world and humanity is in danger?
David__77
(23,503 posts)Biodeterminism in that narrow sense is totally backward and will lead humanity back to the dark ages.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)...if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
I guess apocalyptic hyperbole designed to whip up hate against minority groups can be a high that's hard to kick for some people.
Behind the Aegis
(53,986 posts)To the Pope:
Especially when we see things like this:
Yes, it is true, you may be like Homer Simpson in several ways...
But, make NO MISTAKE:
And when we do, this is what will happen:
Get a grip, asshole!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)I saw a billboard in NYC that said:
"Don't like gay marriage? Then don't get gay married"
I chuckled.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)The whole thing rocked though
Rochester
(838 posts)It's not like the gays are going to be reproducing much anyways.
Let them enjoy their lives as best as they can, just like the rest of us.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)isnt the problem its the gays!!!
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)...that none of us give a shit what they have to say.
malaise
(269,157 posts)to humanity.
Fugg him!
Skittles
(153,193 posts)certainly the number one reason for overpopulation
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)D'oh!
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)The Wizard
(12,547 posts)Christianity (author unknown)
"The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from you that is present in all humanity because a talking snake convinced a rib-woman to eat the fruit from a magical tree.
Yeah....that makes sense."
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)It is only going to get worse....before it gets better....
Fuckwads like Pope Benedict and Rick Santorum talk and idiots take that and run with it.
The result is more beatings, more bullying, more killings...more laws constraining gay people.
At some point in the VERY near future these anti-gay, hating assholes will be met with a wave of resistance unlike anything they have ever experienced.
Pope Benedict's words should be a call to all REASONABLE Catholics to oust their leadership ranks of the backward thinking, pedophile protecting criminals.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Don't exactly have the right perspective on what constitutes marriage and what is healthy for families as far as I'm concerned. Nor do I think those who would not propagate are the right people to give advice or orders on what others should do since they are the ones who are far more of a threat to humanity's future.
It sure seems like we live on the other side of the looking glass lately.
edited to edit for better sentences
mwb970
(11,365 posts)What a monster. Yet hundreds of millions of people think this dumb clown is "infallible"? You could hardly look for a clearer indictment of the folly of organized religion. Sometimes it amazes me how stupid people are in general.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)with a young blonde fella. Oh, and what's with the red shoes, Benedict?
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)"the recognition of the inalienable dignity of each human person and of his or her fundamental rights...must lead to the end of all violence."
MaineDem
(18,161 posts)Things would change in the Catholic Church.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)(..."unless it's a pedophile priest."
What an utter asshole!
theAntiRand
(40 posts)What is this, the 10th Century?
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)May God forgive the pope. I won't.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Fuck the pope.
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)you may say that God decided that there are many orphans in the world and they need a family setting. Since the general heterosexual public has only been able to stay married 50% of the time and all the fighting going on during the break-ups of those marriages, God may have decided to create more family units with what he had left - namely- loving people who are attracted to the same sex partners and can provide a loving family setting while setting an example for the heterosexuals who get married and then divorced because they don't understand the needs of the opposite sex. Hey, but what if???? Huh???
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Jkid
(1,524 posts)It makes a lot of sense why the Catholic Church is so opposed to gay rights, gays and lesbians can't procreate naturally. Despite the fact that they can procreate in other ways, they're still oppose to it. The best way to understand their position in Gay rights is this "Sex is only for the purpose of procreation" and "straight people are expected to date, marry, and have children".
FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)The Church does not teach that marriage and sex are only for procreation. You have to understand, some in the Church just don't like gay people. It's nothing more than that. Some think we are oogie.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)is not natural either.
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)Always an exception, isn't there Benny?
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)into a normal human being would for the chromosome number to somehow double which would be natural but very odd. And the baby would be XX and a female clone of Mary rather than an Xy male.
But of course Joseph had to be the father because both Matthew and Luke trace the lineage of Jesus through to Joseph. Oops - major problem there. The early church apparently wasn't up on genetics. Probably because it hadn't been discovered yet.
Of course many modern Biblical scholars believe that "virgin" in reference to Mary is more properly translated as "young woman" but what do they know?
RaRa
(707 posts)yardwork
(61,703 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)They are no more able to have children naturally than a same sex couple.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)according to the "sex for procreation" crowd, post-menopausal women shouldn't have sex, or be married.
FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)Either we GLBT folk are a tiny minority unworthy of equal rights or we are a powerful group whose very nature threatens humanity. I feel...powerful?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)make up your minds, homophobes.
saras
(6,670 posts)The theory is, that if you cut off all 'legitimate' outlets for gay sexuality, that gay teenagers will settle for priests. As a theory, it may even have worked, in the year 700.
Clouseau2
(60 posts)But having sex with a 13 year old is not even pedophilia ... I think you mean gay sex should be between a priest and a 10 year old.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)av8rdave
(10,573 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Benedict's complicity in the cover up of sexual abuse of children by the Catholic Church makes it hypocritical for him to be talking about threats to the family. There are few things which threaten families more than looking the other way when children are sexually abused.
mikeoccupy
(3 posts)they dont care.
JackDragna
(3,378 posts)Before we just thought Liberace was a very charming man, until we found out he played for *your* team. The Pope is onto you, though. A celibate man in a dress just smacked you down about how evil you are. You got TOLD.
FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)YOU'RE REVEALING THE GAY AGENDA, ITEM 4!!!!!!!
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)I was just a kid but knew Uncle Arthur and Dr. Bombay were a little different. Larry and Darrin and Agnes too.
We were being indoctrinated!
I would like Santorum to address Bewitched and whether he would allow it on TV under his administration.
More of the , I'm the invincible president dream.
FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)You're going to reveal..."THE PLAN"
What do you think the "packers" are? (yes, I know, I know...over the top, but I couldn't help it. We gay folk have to laugh...or we end up constantly crying.)
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)Calling Dr Bombay!
A llama in your kitchen should cheer you right up!
FedUp_Queer
(975 posts)and the long weekend coming up.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)montanto
(2,966 posts)Looks to me like reproduction might be the bigger threat to humanity, but then again I'm not in a position to hear god's private mind.
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)Mother who drank and brandished a Cat O Nine Tails and a father who started sexually abusing me since I can remember.
But they always went to church and forced me to go.
I would have loved a gay couple to have me.
I didn't have fingernails until I left home for the Marines.
Is that the type of household his Popiness is refering?
Did I grow up in a normal manner given seemingly straight parents.
These religious leaders are all full of shit and clueless to the real world.
Just send more money!
yardwork
(61,703 posts)Hugs.
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)It never goes away. That's why I feel so strongly about the Penn State and Catholic kids.
The clueless who think they are just looking for a payout don't understand that this will never go away.
We were victims, not prostitutes so don't even think that!
All one can say is that "This ends with me"!
yardwork
(61,703 posts)I bet it will help other people who will read this and maybe never post, but know that others have experienced what they are experiencing and have survived.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)will come from either the mic, global warming or both.
Wistful Vista
(136 posts)Their legacy, with very few exceptions, is damning by just about any ethical standard.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I'd expect roughly the same timetable when it comes to accepting gays, if past example is any indicator.
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)gay marriage is not the threat, his religion however is.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)where as their raping of children is not??!! the pope and his sanctified organization of child molesters can fuck off.
unkachuck
(6,295 posts)....and this is coming from a leader of an institution in whose name millions have been slaughtered over the centuries....
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_deaths_has_the_Catholic_church_caused
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Fuck 'em all!
happyslug
(14,779 posts)" Education is a crucial theme for every generation, for it determines the healthy development of each person and the future of all society. It thus represents a task of primary importance in this difficult and demanding time. In addition to a clear goal, that of leading young people to a full knowledge of reality and thus of truth, education needs settings. Among these, pride of place goes to the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman. This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society. Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself. The family unit is fundamental for the educational process and for the development both of individuals and States; hence there is a need for policies which promote the family and aid social cohesion and dialogue. It is in the family that we become open to the world and to life and, as I pointed out during my visit to Croatia, openness to life is a sign of openness to the future. In this context of openness to life, I note with satisfaction the recent sentence of the Court of Justice of the European Union forbidding patenting processes relative to human embryonic stem cells, as well as the resolution of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe condemning prenatal selection on the basis of sex.
Now, it is clear the Pope oppose Gay marriage, but the next three paragraphs is directed to abortions, religious freedom, a demand for education of EVERYONE, and comments about the recent attacks on churches in the Mid-east and Africa (Without naming them, this was a speech to the diplomatic corp). Hard to say Gay Marriage, even in the Pope's mind, up to the level of the other concerns he does directly address.
hunter
(38,326 posts)Humanity is doing just fine, our ethics and morals are progressively improving.
In our society I'm certain Christ would bless gay marriages with wine and take on women disciples.
Had He done so in the backwards societies of 2000 years ago they would have killed Him before anyone knew who He was. They wouldn't even have wasted a cross.
Blacksheep214
(877 posts)Just pass an edict reaffirming that the Church had strayed from the teachings.
To clarify: Since God does not make mistakes, all people are equal. ALL!
Now it's time to move forward.
(Since God didn't make any corporations, one could argue that they cannot be considered people.)
Up yours Willard!
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newspeak
(4,847 posts)one who was more socially compassionate than this right wing pedo coverup guy. The church, in my opinion, has been going the wrong direction after Pope John XXIII. There's a great read called, "Sex in History," written by Tannenbaum. At one time, the church thought having sex with a female was worse than having sex with a male and the penance was less for a priest having same sex. Reading some parts of the gnostic gospels, it seems to me, that peter didn't care for women and was jealous of Jesus' relationships with women, especially mary. Kind of gets you wondering if peter was gay.
A church that doesn't allow its' priests to marry, is afraid that gays are going to end the human race? WTF! Really? Is he influenced by his anti-gay hitler youth days, because his logic is totally flawed. If you're so concerned then allow priests and nuns to marry like the episcopalians.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Figaro78
(37 posts)I don't get it. Conventional marriage is the "fundamental cell" of every society? This from the head of a world-wide army of men
and women who may not marry? I think this old fool has been sniffing too much incense...or whatever.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Love and all respect,
A Liberal Christian (who doesn't give a shit what his pointy-head opinion is)
SaintPete
(533 posts)because "Raping Priests" could have an altogether different meaning...
WheelWalker
(8,956 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)are doing far more harm to humanity's future than two dudes/women making out.
StarlightGold
(365 posts)we'll risk it.
JesterCS
(1,827 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Your perverted employees scare the hell out of me a whole lot more than two adults of any gender getting married!
christx30
(6,241 posts)Allowing gay marriage would cause every single straight marriage to instantly break up. No more kids being produced, and we, as a species, will die out within a matter of hours. You don't want Nazis riding dinosaurs, do you? Volcanos in residential neighborhoods? Cats and dogs living together. MASS HYSTERIA!
Report1212
(661 posts)Like close-minded people?
truthisfreedom
(23,154 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)Same sex marriage is a threat to humanity's future--even more so than baby-raping priests that the Catholic Church tried to cover up. I've fallen into this pope's trap-- his idiocy doesn't even merit a response, and I gave one anyway. How sad.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)(apologies to Catholics with functioning brains who do not listen to this idiot)
cqo_000
(313 posts)For those of you that cheered on the Libyan rebels you might want to take a look at the link below.
http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2012/02/13/libya-tells-un-rights-council-gays-threaten-continuation-of-human-race/
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Fuck him and his pointy fucking hat...