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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:30 AM Aug 2018

President Trump asks SEC to study abolishing quarterly earnings reports

Source: CNN-Money



by Chris Isidore @CNNMoney
August 17, 2018: 8:12 AM ET

President Donald Trump says he has asked the SEC to study whether to stop requiring companies to report quarterly earnings.

In speaking to business leaders, one told him a twice-a-year reporting system would allow companies the flexibility and cost savings companies need to "Make business (jobs) even better in the U.S." Trump tweeted Friday morning. Trump said he directed the SEC to look into a change in its requirements.

Public companies must report their sales, profits and the state of the company's balance sheet every quarter. That has been required since the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, which was put in place to give more confidence and transparency to investors in the wake of the 1929 stock market crash. That act also created the SEC, which sets the regulations which govern those quarterly reports.

Businesses have long complained that the reports require company executives to focus too much on the short term. Juicing numbers impresses investors, but it can force companies to miss out on long term trends. One of the reasons Tesla (TSLA) CEO Elon Musk wants to take his company private, he told his employees last week, was the way quarterly reports distort decisions at the company.




Shareholders, however, use the quarterly earnings reports as a guide to the quality and health of their investments. Without quarterly financial reports, investors could be blind to important risk factors that could damage their portfolios.

Read more: https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/17/news/companies/trump-drop-quarterly-reports/index.html
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President Trump asks SEC to study abolishing quarterly earnings reports (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
These entities have to do quarterly taxes for the IRS BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #1
Doesn't know about it because he doesn't pay taxes which pazzyanne Aug 2018 #11
Exactly! BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #12
You win the internets today! workinclasszero Aug 2018 #24
Why don't we eliminate bank statements so Trump can steal it all bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #2
Hate to tell ya, Mr. Never-Made-An-Honest-Deal, but long-term trends are measured in multiple years Yonnie3 Aug 2018 #3
Heck, go to a ten-year system dalton99a Aug 2018 #4
The prof actually said that? Bayard Aug 2018 #22
Yep dalton99a Aug 2018 #23
Mid level employees on up at our company exboyfil Aug 2018 #5
What about before the report is released? Cold War Spook Aug 2018 #13
Not before for that reason exboyfil Aug 2018 #14
What your company is doing to the general public is unfair. Cold War Spook Aug 2018 #29
It appears they don't allow stock trading before the report is issued jmowreader Aug 2018 #30
I'm not allowed to buy any financial security AT ALL, except US bonds. Lucky Luciano Aug 2018 #25
Hey asshole when was the last time your reported on income and paid taxes........................ turbinetree Aug 2018 #6
Because he can't understand anything he thinks there is no reason for it to exist. Snellius Aug 2018 #7
Translation: ME and my Corporate buddies only pay taxes twice a year,they pocket payroll taxes... Bengus81 Aug 2018 #8
One way to help GUT Social Security and Medicare....... Bengus81 Aug 2018 #9
Some randon guy mentions something at a meeting... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #10
Munuchin perchance? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #16
According to Googleand MarketWatch this octoberlib Aug 2018 #19
right on. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #20
Yeah. Why not give his crook buddies a year's head start, Mc Mike Aug 2018 #15
To be fair, Obama critized quarterly reports too, and... AllTooEasy Aug 2018 #17
The EU lets companies report twice octoberlib Aug 2018 #18
"To be fair" Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #21
Let me tell Donnie boy something my dad taught me lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #26
trying to goose the stock market? nt Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #27
This is a horrible idea Gothmog Aug 2018 #28

BumRushDaShow

(129,654 posts)
1. These entities have to do quarterly taxes for the IRS
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:36 AM
Aug 2018

meaning this sort of info should already be available anyway.

But I expect the tax-dodger-in-chief wouldn't know or care about that.

pazzyanne

(6,558 posts)
11. Doesn't know about it because he doesn't pay taxes which
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:39 AM
Aug 2018

makes him a smart person? If there is an investigation, it should be on him.

Yonnie3

(17,500 posts)
3. Hate to tell ya, Mr. Never-Made-An-Honest-Deal, but long-term trends are measured in multiple years
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 08:55 AM
Aug 2018

More corporate bull crap. A well run company should be able at any time to provide the equivalent of a quarterly statement without affecting goals. The difficulty comes with finding ways to make things look better than they are for ensuring big bonuses. A better law would be that performance bonuses be based on long-term performance of the individual and the company. Long-term being not less than five years.

I've always felt there should be a per-share or per-dollar stock sale fee which decreases with the time the equity is held. Opponents of this say it will ruin liquidity and my response is that it will re-introduce sanity to the markets. The markets are there to provide capital to the companies and less volatility will make these quarterly statements have less impact.

dalton99a

(81,636 posts)
23. Yep
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 12:46 PM
Aug 2018

See, for example,
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/former-wharton-professor-trump-was-dumbest-gddam-student-i-ever-had

The late professor William T. Kelley taught marketing at Wharton School of Business and Finance, University of Pennsylvania, for 31 years, ending with his retirement in 1982. Kelley, who also had vast experience as a business consultant, was the author of a then-widely used textbook called Marketing Intelligence:The Management of Marketing Information (originally published by P. Staples, London, 1968). Kelley taught marketing management both to undergraduate and graduate students at Wharton. Dr. Bill was one of my closest friends for 47 years when we lost him at 94 about six years ago. He would have been 100 this year.

Donald J. Trump was an undergraduate student at Wharton for the latter two of his college years, having graduated in 1968.

Professor Kelley told me 100 times over three decades that “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.” I remember his emphasis and inflection — it went like this: “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.” Kelley told me this after Trump had become a celebrity, but long before he was considered a political figure. Kelley often referred to Trump’s arrogance when he told the story that Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
5. Mid level employees on up at our company
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:03 AM
Aug 2018

are restricted to a window of about 10 days after a quarterly report announcement when we can buy or sell stock.

That would be a good rule for all organizations. Also would be a good rule to enforce on the highest level employees (I sometimes have my doubts).

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
13. What about before the report is released?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:16 AM
Aug 2018

The company I used to work for had both. As the main frame computer system we had, I knew exactly what the report would say about earnings and a whole lot more.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
14. Not before for that reason
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:19 AM
Aug 2018

My company wants to be sure that as much information is available to avoid unfairness.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
29. What your company is doing to the general public is unfair.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

People, who have two weeks to look at the report before other people, have the advantage. They can buy or sell the company stock the day before the report comes out.

jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
30. It appears they don't allow stock trading before the report is issued
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 02:43 AM
Aug 2018

There are strong laws against trading on that kind of insider information.

Lucky Luciano

(11,263 posts)
25. I'm not allowed to buy any financial security AT ALL, except US bonds.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 01:06 PM
Aug 2018

The only game I can really play is buying and selling treasuries - I can use leverage, so there is something I could do if I wanted if I really wanted to bet on rate movements. With leverage, you can get enough volatility for it to be worthwhile if I had time, but I don’t.

My wife is also blocked due to my job. Maybe she can become a bond trader at home!

turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
6. Hey asshole when was the last time your reported on income and paid taxes........................
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:05 AM
Aug 2018

were still waiting, and one day.................we will get to read and see them............................very shortly.................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough......................vote.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
7. Because he can't understand anything he thinks there is no reason for it to exist.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:07 AM
Aug 2018

Trump's so ignorant he thinks everything was created just out of whim.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
8. Translation: ME and my Corporate buddies only pay taxes twice a year,they pocket payroll taxes...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:08 AM
Aug 2018

for nearly six months. BILLIONS in their pockets to use until the last minute they have to shell it out to the Treasury.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
9. One way to help GUT Social Security and Medicare.......
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:17 AM
Aug 2018

Let me guess,Trillion $$$ Corporations STILL take out full payroll taxes weekly or bi-weekly on employees but then STUFF The cash in THEIR pocket to use for dividends,CEO raises,$25M jet while SS and Medicare twist in the wind.

FUCK YOU TRUMP.............

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. Some randon guy mentions something at a meeting...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 09:31 AM
Aug 2018

and the moron wants to toss out almost a hundred years of openness and transparency?

He definitely needs more cholesterol in his diet.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
16. Munuchin perchance?
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:32 AM
Aug 2018

As if they haven't completely corrupted this country already in 2 years. They have to make MORe. How about 15.00 min wage? By the time they do that, we'll really need 25.00 min wage.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
17. To be fair, Obama critized quarterly reports too, and...
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 10:35 AM
Aug 2018

I highly disagreed with him then. Read down the article for Obama’s comments.

Maybe, the method of reporting quarterly reports should change. Maybe investors should pay more attention to the long game and not short term satisfaction.

I don’t trust these companies. I wish we had instantaneous reporting and transparency, if that were possible.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
18. The EU lets companies report twice
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

a year but they also let shareholders set executive pay and require companies to let some employees have seats on the board.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
21. "To be fair"
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 12:18 PM
Aug 2018

The way we got where we are...playing fair...while absolute vile people do what's easy. To be fair...groan.

lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
26. Let me tell Donnie boy something my dad taught me
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 01:08 PM
Aug 2018

"Fuck with something long enough and you are going to break it!"

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