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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:07 PM Aug 2018

Sen. Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont Democratic Primary, but Is Expected to Turn It Down

Source: Time

Independent U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders won Vermont's Democratic Senate primary on Tuesday but was expected to turn down the nomination, as he did in his previous campaigns, and support other Democratic candidates. In Tuesday's Democratic balloting, Sanders defeated little-known candidate Folasade Adeluola ...

There were four little-known candidates seeking the Republican U.S. Senate nomination.
Sanders, long one of Vermont's most popular politicians, is thought to be considering a presidential run in 2020 and already is on Vermont's November ballot for Senator as an independent.

Under Vermont law he cannot appear on the November ballot as both a Democrat and an independent. In his previous U.S. Senate races, in 2012 and 2006, he declined the Democratic nomination but accepted the formal endorsement of the state's Democratic Party.

"That is what he has done in the past, and that is what he looks forward to happening in 2018," Sanders campaign spokeswoman Arianna Jones said. "As he has for many campaigns, Bernie will contribute to and participate in the Vermont Democratic coordinated campaign." Sanders campaign is donating $150,000 to the Vermont Democratic Party.

Read more: http://time.com/5367651/sen-bernie-sanders-wins-vermont-democratic-primary-but-is-expected-to-turn-it-down/



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Sen. Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont Democratic Primary, but Is Expected to Turn It Down (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 OP
Bernie is a real mensch! JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #1
+1 CentralMass Aug 2018 #2
Yup yup... Bernie's da man!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #5
Vermont Democrats love them some Bernie! Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #3
It sure is... thank you Bernie for your strong support of Democrats!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #4
BFD. comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #6
I think it's a BFD ...... jb5150 Aug 2018 #7
Big Friend of Democrats! Lordquinton Aug 2018 #8
I dont get why he does this. Eko Aug 2018 #9
It is to keep a rat fucker off the ballot. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #10
Well, he keeps a (D) from running in the general Igel Aug 2018 #11
++++this nt heaven05 Aug 2018 #13
No. Any Democrat can win the primary. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #14
You're calling genuine Democratic candidates "rat fuckers" Hortensis Aug 2018 #16
Nope. Nice try though. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #18
Wow, Celebrating Genuine Democrats Getting Crushed? TomCADem Aug 2018 #21
He COULD just ACCEPT THE FUCKING NOMINATION. Adrahil Aug 2018 #17
Vermont Democrats voted for him left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #15
Yes. The VDP and Sanders have a great relationship. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #19
Sadly. He Won't Accept Their Nomination. TomCADem Aug 2018 #22
This is the Big Difference Between Him and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez... TomCADem Aug 2018 #20

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
3. Vermont Democrats love them some Bernie!
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:41 PM
Aug 2018

Sanders' long-time political adviser Jeff Weaver said that the Sanders campaign is donating $150,000 to the Vermont Democratic Party.

That's great that he donates to Democrats to help them in their races.

Eko

(7,315 posts)
9. I dont get why he does this.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:03 AM
Aug 2018

I mean why run as a Democrat, I mean why not run as an indep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, huh. I tried looking to see how much money the Vermont Democratic party has given to Sanders when he does this and cant find anything. Anyone?

Voltaire2

(13,042 posts)
10. It is to keep a rat fucker off the ballot.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:38 AM
Aug 2018

By running in the primary Sanders keeps a vote splitting rat fucker off the ballot in the general election and keeps the seat safely on our side.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
11. Well, he keeps a (D) from running in the general
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:15 AM
Aug 2018

and from being senator, while making use of the (D) party to gain that position.

In return, he caucuses with (D) while apparently retaining his integrity by not being called one.

The only party-relevant thing that can be said is that he gets (D) votes.

Voltaire2

(13,042 posts)
14. No. Any Democrat can win the primary.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 12:53 PM
Aug 2018

But if you’d like to give this seat to the Republicans perhaps you can convince the VDP to follow your advice.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. You're calling genuine Democratic candidates "rat fuckers"
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 01:10 PM
Aug 2018

and congratulating yourselves on a maneuver that blocks a Democrat from running against an independent in the general election? Democrats even get to pay for it. Do 100% of all VT's Democrats want Sanders, or are a bunch of VT's Democrats getting screwed here?

Are there no questions of ethical violations and suppression of the democratic process here? What am I not understanding?

This is reminding me that Sanders' voters in VT apparently approve Sanders' role in dumping their own light radioactive waste in other peoples' back yards far, far away, problem transferred, never to bother VT again. Most of us have no problem recognizing big moral questions there.

Voltaire2

(13,042 posts)
18. Nope. Nice try though.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 05:00 PM
Aug 2018

Your “genuine” Democratic candidates are welcome to compete in the Democratic Primary, which they did, and got crushed by your bogeyman Bernie.

What the VDP and Sanders don’t want is a three way race.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
17. He COULD just ACCEPT THE FUCKING NOMINATION.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:23 PM
Aug 2018

No Rat-fucking involved.

Apparently he's too good to be a Democrat.

Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #12)

Voltaire2

(13,042 posts)
19. Yes. The VDP and Sanders have a great relationship.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 05:02 PM
Aug 2018

This is pretty much only an uproar among Democrats who are determined to frame Sanders as the enemy, and of course right wing trolls helping that along.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
22. Sadly. He Won't Accept Their Nomination.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:54 PM
Aug 2018

I do not think you are saying that Vermont Democrats would reject Bernie. To the contrary you seem to be arguing that they want him to be their Senator. Unfortunately, he refuses to accept their nomination.

But, hey, if they consent because they have no choice, then its okay. We know that Trump says that a lot.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
20. This is the Big Difference Between Him and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:48 PM
Aug 2018

...besides their stance on immigration issues. AOC is actually a Democrat who is running to move the party in a progressive direction. Bernie repeatedly rejects the party, because his schtick is to run against Democrats and Republicans as an outsider. To be successful, he has to paint both parties as the "establishment," thus he will never actually join the party.

This is why you have to give credit to folks like AOC who moving the party in a progressive direction, rather than rejecting it. To build a coalition, you have to be a part of it. Otherwise, you are just being a gadfly.

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