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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:45 PM Aug 2018

Wages drop despite economic boom

Source: The Hill

Wages in the U.S. fell over the past year despite an ongoing economic boom, according to data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday.

In the last 12 months through July, real average hourly earnings dropped 0.4 percent. That figure takes into account seasonal differences, as well as the effects of rising prices.

An increase in the length of the average workweek was not enough to compensate for the fall, leaving average weekly earnings down 0.1 percent in the same period. Over the past month alone, real hourly wages were flat, while real weekly earnings dropped 0.2 percent.

The sluggish advance in wages comes amid an economy that, by other measures, is booming. The economy grew at an annualized rate of 4.2 percent in the second quarter, and unemployment dipped below 4 percent in July. The dynamic could prove troublesome for Republicans hoping that a thriving economy will boost them in November's midterm elections.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/401341-wages-drop-despite-economic-boom

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Wages drop despite economic boom (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 OP
No surprise, elleng Aug 2018 #1
Give me, give me, give me, give me,.......... None for you ! magicarpet Aug 2018 #6
Higher Corp taxes can mean higher wages since they deduct them. SharonAnn Aug 2018 #37
Stagnant or dropping wages are here to stay forever. democratisphere Aug 2018 #2
Winning Bigly. Nuthin' but winning. Trumpers won enough yet? NRaleighLiberal Aug 2018 #3
I love their reaction when you remind them that he inherited a good economy and the trend from Obama sandensea Aug 2018 #8
Yes - because those people are hopeless...deplorable, even! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2018 #13
The top 10% is doing very nicely,... Thank You Very Much. magicarpet Aug 2018 #4
It's no economic boom if the working class is struggling huh. Iliyah Aug 2018 #5
Say it isn't so. Racerdog1 Aug 2018 #7
Mission accomplished! not fooled Aug 2018 #9
Kochs are just the latest in a long line... pecosbob Aug 2018 #12
You're right not fooled Aug 2018 #15
Yes, oppostion since 1910s and anti trust laws, then FDR, more. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #23
Amazing what FDR, and TR who helped set things up, were able to do empedocles Aug 2018 #27
"Mission Accomplished"? I wish. The Kochs are just getting started. Grease up, America. Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #21
Brutal reality, folks study up fast on the 'Gop's Long Game'/Koch Agenda. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #22
Am currently reading Jane Mayer's Dark Money. Billionaires plotting against working folk. Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #24
I'm working on Jane's terrific book too. All very serious and real.. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #25
Unions Anyone? louis c Aug 2018 #10
Wages for semi-skilled workers are the same as they were in 1980. pecosbob Aug 2018 #11
I worked in a grocery store when I was a teen - part time. Unionized. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2018 #14
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #16
Robert Reich's film Inequality For All is very good and BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #17
Imagine that! Kajun Gal Aug 2018 #18
This is what Republican policies do. PatrickforO Aug 2018 #19
MASLA - Making Americans Slave Laborers Again flibbitygiblets Aug 2018 #20
On the bright side: republican fatcats are getting fatter Achilleaze Aug 2018 #26
With wages dropping & inflation increasing the economy that OBAMA rescued, WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #28
This is a troubling trend. honest.abe Aug 2018 #29
And that was the plan all along. Older Than I Look Aug 2018 #30
Amen FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #33
This is why Republicans have to run against Nancy Pelosi instead of their tax cuts. n/t Yavin4 Aug 2018 #31
The 1% that own the GOP are doing just fine workinclasszero Aug 2018 #32
Real wages are in decline, while corporate profits soar #TrumpSlump DesertRat Aug 2018 #34
Indeed. The question that Dems should ask repeatedly about this economic "boom": calimary Aug 2018 #35
kick 🌊🌊🌊 #FlipItBlue #BlueWave2018 #VoteThemOUT riversedge Aug 2018 #36
Address the wage drop Sarah Hucksterbee. I know, "fake news". oasis Aug 2018 #38
trickle-up economics have been going on for decades. nt TheFrenchRazor Aug 2018 #39

SharonAnn

(13,779 posts)
37. Higher Corp taxes can mean higher wages since they deduct them.
Sun Aug 12, 2018, 10:25 PM
Aug 2018

In an extreme version,
Taxes at 80% means they have to pay the 80% on profits OR they can give it to employees, deduct it off taxes, and the cost of increased wages, bonuses is then 20%
Taxes at 0% means that owners pay no taxes, keep all the profits, and don’t want to increase wages because they’d have to pay 100% of it out of their profits.

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
8. I love their reaction when you remind them that he inherited a good economy and the trend from Obama
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:08 PM
Aug 2018

"Obummer was lying."

"Oh? His numbers are the same ones Trump uses now."

"Trump's just being nice!"

It's hopeless with those people.

magicarpet

(14,181 posts)
4. The top 10% is doing very nicely,... Thank You Very Much.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:53 PM
Aug 2018

The other 90% does not count. Be grateful you could have been born in Bangladesh, or some other shit hole country.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. It's no economic boom if the working class is struggling huh.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:54 PM
Aug 2018

Economic boom for whom ya'll say? The wealthy so far but it ain't gonna last.

So when I hear about the economy is doing so well and at 3.9 unemployment, I shake my head. Apparently these economic advisors/experts in fact work for the GOPs. And when they speak I just remember one thing "they speak with fork tongue".

I also remember that wonderful economy by the Bush Administration.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
7. Say it isn't so.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:05 PM
Aug 2018

How can this be? The orange anus tweets everyday about how good things are. Unemployment rate is down due to everyone having to work 2-3 jobs because of the shit wages.

not fooled

(5,803 posts)
9. Mission accomplished!
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:27 PM
Aug 2018

for the kook brothers and other execrable vermin whose money and evil nature has led them to take over our country.

not fooled

(5,803 posts)
15. You're right
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:45 PM
Aug 2018

actually for most of this country's history. We got a break with the New Deal, which I grew up under, so came to expect better. Now they are taking it all away. It's our job to stop them as much as possible (or leave the country, which I am pursuing).

Midnight Writer

(21,815 posts)
24. Am currently reading Jane Mayer's Dark Money. Billionaires plotting against working folk.
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 04:07 AM
Aug 2018

And sadly, pathetically, working folk buying in and supporting their own destruction.

appalachiablue

(41,178 posts)
25. I'm working on Jane's terrific book too. All very serious and real..
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 04:32 AM
Aug 2018

And regular, struggling folks can't see the oligarchy deception, and don't know or follow good news sources.

During the 1930s, some of Britain's working class bought into Oswald Moseley's Fascism, and others in Italy, etc.

Mass propaganda then, like now was so influential. Sad, self deluding and what a cost.

pecosbob

(7,545 posts)
11. Wages for semi-skilled workers are the same as they were in 1980.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:38 PM
Aug 2018

Forty years of anti-union and anti-worker policies come home to roost.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,024 posts)
14. I worked in a grocery store when I was a teen - part time. Unionized.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 07:45 PM
Aug 2018

I was making 5 dollars an hour back in the mid 1970s. I worked the deli - some lunch meat was 99 cents a pound.

It is now 5 to 10 times that - but people at grocery stores are not making 25-50 dollars an hour.

We are in such a deep mess.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
17. Robert Reich's film Inequality For All is very good and
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 08:39 PM
Aug 2018

helps explain how this started in the 70s. Over time people have slowly been working more while earning less. First after the bad economy in the 70s both spouses HAD to work, then people borrowed and went into debt, finally people had to work two or three jobs and 50-60 hour weeks. There is nothing left that a person can do to even begin to dream of living like they had in the 50s and 60s. Globalization, extreme wealth in the top 10% and no unions has taken its toll on the rest of society and the GOP blames it on minorities and Dems (their favorite scape goats).


This is a brief intro.

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
19. This is what Republican policies do.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:09 PM
Aug 2018

Starve us with lower wages, fewer benefits, and instead take our money the we have paid in to our treasury and give it to billionaires and corporations.

Then, as people lose their footing and fall, the Republicans blame them for not working hard enough.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
20. MASLA - Making Americans Slave Laborers Again
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 11:34 PM
Aug 2018

I guess those tax cuts for the rich will be trickling down any time now?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
26. On the bright side: republican fatcats are getting fatter
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 05:46 AM
Aug 2018

and laughing at Trump voter-suckers all the way to the bank.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
28. With wages dropping & inflation increasing the economy that OBAMA rescued,
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 07:19 AM
Aug 2018

After Republican BS tanked it in 2008, will stop 'booming' and start bombing.

Trickle down has been repeatedly proven to be bull and yet gullible idiots keep buying that it's really really going to work this time. Yeah and Lucy has a football she's gonna let you kick (suckers).

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
32. The 1% that own the GOP are doing just fine
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 09:51 AM
Aug 2018

Fuck everyone else. That is and always will be the GOP platform.

Did the idiots voting Trump really think he was going to do anything to help them out?

calimary

(81,519 posts)
35. Indeed. The question that Dems should ask repeatedly about this economic "boom":
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 12:31 PM
Aug 2018

Is that “booming economy” booming for YOU yet?

Or is it once again booming for the already wealthy, and you’re still waiting for the goodies to trickle down to you too?

And how long do you think you’ll have to wait before YOU see any of those goodies in YOUR pocket?

Do you REALLY believe that’s what’s coming?

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