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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:36 PM Aug 2018

Federal judge says Trump must fully restore DACA

Source: The Hill

BY ARIS FOLLEY - 08/03/18 05:20 PM EDT

A federal judge ruled Friday that the Trump administration must full restore the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

In his 25-page opinion, Judge John Bates said the Trump White House had again failed to provide justification for its proposal to end the Obama-era program, under which nearly 800,000 people brought to the country illegally as children, known as "Dreamers," have received work permits and deferral from deportation.

The judge also said in his opinion that he has agreed to delay his ruling to give the Trump administration 20 days "to determine whether it intends to appeal the Court’s decision and, if so, to seek a stay pending appeal."

President Trump rescinded DACA last September, a decision Bates wrote in his opinion “was arbitrary and capricious” with legal judgment that was “inadequately explained.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400332-federal-judge-says-trump-must-fully-restore-daca

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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. whow. Happy Day for the DACA families. But, I see trumpy has 20 days to appeal..........
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:42 PM
Aug 2018




..............The judge also said in his opinion that he has agreed to delay his ruling to give the Trump administration 20 days "to determine whether it intends to appeal the Court’s decision and, if so, to seek a stay pending appeal."

President Trump rescinded DACA last September, a decision Bates wrote in his opinion “was arbitrary and capricious” with legal judgment that was “inadequately explained.”

Bates further wrote that the court holds that if the Trump administration wishes to rescind the program, or take any other action for that matter, it must “give a rational explanation for its decision.”

Bates said his court reaffirms its conclusion that DACA’s rescission “was unlawful and must be set aside.”

Earlier this year, Bates, a George W. Bush appointee, became the third federal judge to reject Trump’s explanation for ending the program, ruling at the time that the decision by the Justice Department that the program was unlawful was “virtually unexplained.”

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
6. Cruel and probably really p....sed at this new ruling.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:25 PM
Aug 2018

I guess we can expect some more tweeting rants, it hasn't been a particularly good week for him and his filthy cohorts.

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
3. I agree with this decision ...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:13 PM
Aug 2018

And I think we need to come up with a permanent solution for this.

But if was created with an Executive Order - why can't it be dissolved with an Executive Order?

This is one of the big reasons why elections matter.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
4. YIPPIE!!!!!!!!
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:14 PM
Aug 2018

Two in one day! Happy weekend!

Another judge ruled earlier today that the Fucking Moron has to reunite the separated immigrant families that they planned to separate for over a hear with no intention of reuniting. The ACLU took tRump admin to court for this crime and the moron had the balls to say the ACLU had to do the work, AND pay for reuniting the families even though they are 100% responsible for it since it was their own anti-immigration plan/goal.

Thank you judges!!!!!

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
12. Expect Kavanaugh @SCOTUS:"Presidents need not legally justify, explain or even make rational EOs"
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:49 PM
Aug 2018

Following Kavanaugh's position that this "Imperial" President is above the law.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. So presidents need to adequately explain EO's
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:30 PM
Aug 2018

And executive branch policy from now on? I have a feeling this is one of those rulings we’ll cheer now and complain about down the road.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
9. I can "adequately explain" it for you....
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:36 PM
Aug 2018

...because President Obama made an executive order protecting these citizens. This orange buffoon is out to un-do everything President Obama has done...EVERY THING!!

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
10. I'm doubtful...sounds to me like the court is saying
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:44 PM
Aug 2018

we'll let you deport whomever you want, you just gotta come up with better language that that give us judges a little more cover like we did with your travel ban. We don't want to be strung up by an angry mob.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
21. Can a judge force a president to issue an
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:33 AM
Aug 2018

Executive Order? And what if the president refuses? Can the judge send in marshals to arrest the president for contempt? I'm sure the Secret Service might have a problem with that.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
14. I'm confused how Executive Orders work...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:31 PM
Aug 2018

I assumed it was just as easy to end them as it is to enact them.

Thank goodness such protections are in place, but considering that they’re the whim of one person, it’s strange that they can’t be “undone” as easily as they’re “done.”

MichMan

(11,938 posts)
15. I'm confused as well
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 12:24 AM
Aug 2018

Does this mean that Trump's EO can't be easily undone by the next president either ?

sl8

(13,787 posts)
18. I think the big difference is whether or not they're subject to judicial review.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 05:14 PM
Aug 2018

As I understand it, Obama's DACA EO and the related administrative actions were not subject to judicial review under the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) because they were considered to be a matter of prosecutorial discretion. The current administration's attempts at DACA rescission have been subject to judicial review and haven't fared too well, so far.

This primer on DACA rescission explains it far better than I could:
https://takecareblog.com/blog/a-primer-on-the-daca-rescission

Also, I found quite a few good newspaper and law review articles about DACA rescission by googling

"DACA APA rescission prosecutorial discretion judicial review" (without quotes).




And, the Wikipedia entry on the Administrative Procedure Act (APA):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Procedure_Act_(United_States)


lark

(23,105 posts)
16. Not jumping for joy with present SCOTUS.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 09:34 AM
Aug 2018

This sycophantic racist & oligarch sucking SCOTUS will pretty much affirm any despicable thing done by drumpf that comes before them. Roberts might split off on some things, but it's got to be extreme overreach or else he's all in

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