Putin proposed eastern Ukraine vote to Trump in Helsinki - report

[Equinox Moon]

Source: The Guardian

Russian president reportedly tells diplomats Trump is considering referendum offer.
The proposal seeks to resolve the four-year-old conflict in Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions that followed Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

Ukraine has offered the regions autonomy under its rule. Parts of the regions that are controlled by Russia-backed separatists – the rebel “people’s republics” of Donetsk and Luhansk – held their own referendums in May 2014 and declared independence from Ukraine. The votes were not recognised by Ukraine, the US or the EU, while Russia said it respected the results.

Sergei Aksyonov, the governor of Crimea, told the Russian state-run news service RIA Novosti: “I am positive that [Putin] is doing everything in his power to [get the US to] recognise Crimea [as a Russian region] and lift the sanctions. The first step was made, let’s wait for the results now.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/20/putin-proposed-eastern-ukraine-vote-to-trump-in-helsinki-report

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Okay, this is a very complicated situation. I can't imagine that Benedict Donald would even begin to understand this situation. He is playing a yes man game with Putin.

America is supposed to be an open government. None of this should be happening with trump, all by himself.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Trump & Putin scheduling an election!! Something wrong about that - Totally Rigged!!

That's what Soviet Union did to us post-WWII. We wanted free elections in eastern Europe, Soviets scheduled sham elections. In Poland and elsewhere.

[VMA131Marine]

2. Putin is trying to annex Ukraine by referendum

No US President, except Trump, would agree to this.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. That is the bottom line.

And Trump is Putin's useful Idiot.

[turbinetree]

4. Hey traitor you have to go through congress for this action.................asshole

you cannot unilaterally give permission to a fucking murder to hold a referendum that is stacked against the citizens and packed for yes to annexation..................you are a fucking traitor...................to NATO the EU and your right wing nationalist like Malcolm Nance said are fucking the world with your help and that Putin fuckers help...............in his new book.............is spot on...........

[bluestarone]

6. YEA but this CONGRESS will probably approve anything!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't trust them for anything!!!!!!!!!!

[DBoon]

5. Like the 1938 referendum that allowed Hitler to annex Austria?

nt

[dbackjon]

10. More akin to Sudetenland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudetenland

Part of the "Peace in Our Time" Munich Agreement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

[Chemisse]

7. So should the media skip the middle man and go straight to Putin?

Since Putin seems to be in charge of releasing info on all the promises Trump made.

[thucythucy]

8. How about we let the people of South Sakhalin vote

on rejoining Japan?

Or maybe let the people of Chechnya vote on independence?

As long as we're carving up countries via referendums.

[FakeNoose]

9. It's a proposal for a referendum in the Ukraine

This headline is very confusing and strangely worded. The USA would not be voting because it has nothing to do with us.

For some reason Putin asked Trump for his opinion, but trust me Trump doesn't give a FF about it. This is of no concern to us or NATO.

[Equinox Moon]

11. Thanks for your comments

I also think the key to the article is that we heard about something discussed at the meeting, not from the US, but from Russia. We have not heard anything from the WH about the content of the meeting.

[FakeNoose]

12. Absolutely, and it's nerve wracking

What will we learn next from the Russian news agency that our own President can't or won't tell us?