Susan Collins Says She Would Vote Against Any Trump Nominee Who Wants to Overturn Roe v. Wade

[appalachiablue]

Source: Think Progress

The pro-choice Republican said Sunday that a nominee who wants to overturn Roe would be "unacceptable."

Any Supreme Court nominee who would overturn Roe v. Wade would be unacceptable to her, said US Senator Susan Collins (R-ME), one of the most closely watched lawmakers as Trump moves to nominate a replacement for outgoing Justice Anthony Kennedy.

Trump has vowed to appoint justices that would overturn the landmark case affirming abortion as a constitutional right. His next appointment will determine the court’s majority, leaving abortion rights in the balance as Kennedy retires from the high court.

Speaking to ABC television on Sunday, Collins, a rare pro-choice Republican, said she was going to have an “in-depth conversation” with the nominee and reiterated what she said last week — that she believes Roe v. Wade is settled law.

“It has been established as a constitutional right for 45 years and was reaffirmed 26 years ago,” Collins said. “So a nominee’s position on whether or not they respect precedent will tell me a lot about whether they would overturn Roe v. Wade.” more..


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[pangaia]

1. Kersplurt...

[bucolic_frolic]

2. This is just total theater

They'll lie about it, change their minds, refuse to answer, and she's not going to ask him or her about potential cases hypothetically or otherwise anyway ... totally meant to fool progressives

[FoxNewsSucks]

3. nice of her to say that, but

will she actually DO it?

McChinless got her vote with a fake promise

[sandensea]

22. I'll believe it when I see it.

There was her infamous switch on the Trump trickle down last year, as you mentioned.

And we all remember Collins' Obamacare two-step back in 2010: "I'll vote for it you gut this part...and that...and that..."

"Why, thank you for doing all that for lil' ol' me - but I couldn't possibly vote for it (suckers)."

[Stargleamer]

4. I have my doubts

As she would then have to vote against anyone he nominates.

But if she does follow through, then the ball's in murkowski's court.

[appalachiablue]

7. Doubts warranted; both voted for Alito. We'll find out soon enough..

From the article: 'Murkowski has been less specific about whether she would vote for any of Trump’s potential nominees. In a statement Wednesday, Murkowski said she would “carefully scrutinize” Trump’s pick, adding that she believes Kennedy — the swing vote on abortion issues — “held the court together and did right by the Constitution.”

[Stargleamer]

13. Well if McCain can't come back. . .

and Collins follows through, then we might not need murkowski, provided that heitkamp, manchin, and jones don't betray us

[wryter2000]

39. Okay, call me overly optimistic

I'm thinking that with Gorsuch, it didn't matter what any Dem did, so it was no big deal for Dems in red states to vote to confirm him. I have a feeling this will be different (If we can get a Republican to be reasonable). I imagine the pressure on Manchin et al. from Dems will be pretty severe. We will, though, have to make sure all the Dems hear from us.

I'll be on the phone with Harris and Feinstein.

[wryter2000]

9. We only need one

I doubt John McCain can come back. Without him, if we get one Republican, it's 50 to 49 in our favor.

[Stargleamer]

17. Some are even saying that Donnelly' a concern. . .

I thought it was just manchin, heitkamp, and jones

[FBaggins]

35. That's because Donnelly just voted for one of the final five

If Trump picks her, Donnelly will have to create his own spin for why she was acceptable in October but unacceptable now.

I suspect that he’ll have no trouble doing so if it comes down to it... but Collins etc. will almost certainly find enough cover that it won’t come to that

[Iliyah]

29. Can't Pence come in for 51????

[wryter2000]

38. Only if McCain is 50

Pence can't be two votes.

Edit for clarity:

Currently, they have 51 senators, including McCain. We have 49.
If Collins came over to our side, that would be 50/50. However, if McCain is unable to vote, the vote would be 49 yes and 50 no. There is no tie for Pence to break. I don't believe he can vote to create a tie, only to break one. So, the nominee would be defeated.

Of course, that all assumes: a) all the dems and our independents stick together, b) one Republican votes against, and c) McCain is unable to vote.

I'm not wishing his death on him, but I'm also not wishing the Repigs forcing him to DC to vote while he's in the process of dying.

[Upthevibe]

54. I think we need two (with McCain out) because now it's

51 to 49. Take away McCain, it's 50 to 49. Add one Republican to our number (I guess possibly Collins) and that would make it 50 to 50 with Pence being able to vote to break the tie. I think that's where it would stand but I'm not sure...

[wryter2000]

61. Your math is a bit off

After you subtract McCain, you have 50 R to 49 D. But if you move one R to the no column, it's 50 no to 49 yes.

The way you have it: 50/50 assumes McCain is voting.

[unblock]

5. Oh riiight. But she'll vote for a republican. Whatever.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. It's kind of hard to believe a republican.

They lie like cheap rugs.

[Scruffy1]

49. Exactly.

[CentralMass]

8. I don't believe her.

[leftieNanner]

10. Collins and Murkowski

Will not be an issue if Heitkamp, Jones, Donnelly, and Manchin vote yes.

Collins said she wouldn't vote for a candidate who SAYS that they would vote against Roe. But if nobody presses them to answer that question then she is off the hook.

How can the good people of Maine keep voting for her? I have less respect for her than Mitch - kinda. At least he's consistent and forthright about being an evil scumbag.

[Iliyah]

31. Well there you have it. All the candidate have to do is LIE.

GOPers know what they means.

[leftieNanner]

45. true dat

nt

[wryter2000]

11. They'll lie to her

I believe her, but I also believe they'll lie to her.

[yallerdawg]

12. So, Gorsuch was just fine - after last week's California clinic ruling.

Tell me another.

[mahina]

23. Can you tell us about the ruling? I had not heard of it.

Thank you!

[bettyellen]

37. There allowing the right to lovers run fake women's clinics that lie to women about abortion....

[TNNurse]

14. Yeah, sure.

I will wait for her vote, she has misled us before.

[Paladin]

15. As if any candidate is going to be honest as to their Roe v. Wade intentions. (nt)

[turbinetree]

16. Lets remind the public that this woman has voted for damn near every fucking federal

nominee that has come to the floor since the sexual predator was placed in the position that he is in by a foreign power and with the help of corporations that just didn't give a shit, and she has not even said one fucking word in the well of the senate or proposed any bill to protect the vote............not fucking one ie.............. Facebook and Twitter for example, and you also gave the system the fucking Citizens United bull shit, the list goes on and on...................so this happy horse shit of having a litmus test now...............is full of well .....................bull shit.....................the individual that comes before her will fucking lie.....................................................its that fucking simple.

Do you remember Alito's confirmation there Collins, or how about the illegal asshole sitting on the bench now............you did after all vote YEA, for his confirmation-------------------yeah, you followed the Articles of the Constitution didn't.................. YOU...........give me fucking break..................you didn't give one rats ass about the rule of law.....................your a disgrace.................your track record speaks for itself...................and its not impressive




November 2018 cannot get here fast enough......................vote

[dalton99a]

42. +1. Collins is full of shit

[CTyankee]

69. Does she have a daughter? A granddaughter?

This might just be one of those deeply personal things. When your own children or grandchildren are involved, it is a different story. I like to think that the trauma of thinking your own daughter or granddaughter could be so adversely affected by such a decision on a SC justice would seriously weight on your mind, even if you are a republican.

[padah513]

18. Believe it when you see it and not before

[shanny]

19. So all said nominee has to do is CLAIM he/she doesn't want to overturn Roe

and the so-called Senator will claim that her demands have been met. It is what she does.

[red dog 1]

28. + 1

[duforsure]

20. Trying to BS her way out of this

By claiming more BS she getting from trump and others, when she knows all along what she's doing is to deflect outrage towards her. She's another liar and a fraud in Congress.

[paleotn]

21. Esmeralda

Why not take one for the country. You, Flake, possible Corker and McCain (though he's in no shape to attend actual votes) should switch parties. I know, it's a bit of a pipe dream, but think of it. Flake and Corker don't have a damn thing to lose. They're dead politically as Rethugs anyway. They couldn't get elected ag commissioner back home. So what the hell? Do the country a favor and poke the orange asshole in the eye. No SCOTUS seat for the liar and cheat!

[bucolic_frolic]

24. She's giving you her thoughts and prayers

don't believe a word of it

[red dog 1]

25. Collins made a similar statement in 2005 after "W" nominated Samuel Alito to the SCOTUS

despite the fact that: (from the OP)

During the confirmation process, it was revealed that Alito wrote in a 1985 memo that the government "should make clear that we disagree with Roe v. Wade."
In his confirmation hearings, Alito also refused to call Roe "settled law."

[dalton99a]

43. +1

[DemKittyNC]

26. That's what she says all the damn time

...till the payoff kicks in then she does a 180 and votes how she is told to vote. I Fking loath her!

[KPN]

27. And how is she going to know that from the charade they call nomination hearings?

Is she going to look at their records or rely on the hearings?

We need top flood her offices with the "record" of any and all justice nominations.

[NCjack]

44. Susan likes to make believe that she is more obtuse than she really is. nt

[hibbing]

30. What a joke n/t

[JDC]

32. She is a clown that is all hat, no cattle.

[heaven05]

33. her word

has never been trustworthy. She always changes her vote to benefit her Party. LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jake Stern]

34. Bwahahahahahahaha

More comedy gold from Susan Collins.

[WinstonSmith4740]

36. Yeah, right.

Let's see if we can figure out how this will go down.

Collins spends time in front of cameras swearing to hold her ground and never vote for anyone who would be willing to overturn Roe. She won't come out and directly ASK this question, but she will ask about "stare decisis" and the answer will be some convoluted, nebulous word salad that sounds like "yes", but never really says it. (i.e., "We have had many great jurists in our history, and I would be hard pressed to question their decisions".) Based on this, and after McConnell personally promises her Roe would not be in danger, she will do what McConnell tells her to do, and votes for confirmation. Now a member of SCOTUS, the candidate votes at first opportunity to overturn Roe. Collins is shocked and dismayed.

[Calista241]

40. I think he's going to nominate Amy Coney Barrett

Collins and Murkowski have already voted for her on her Appeals Court vote. 3 Democrats voted for her as well in that vote.

[Rebl2]

41. Don't

believe her for one minute. She always backs down when it comes right down to it.

[Luciferous]

46. I don't trust anything Collins says

[tavernier]

47. Please forget what this lying POS says

We need to concentrate on getting her OUT of government! Her only agenda is to keep her job, and she has become very good at playing the sympathetic role of “I am the good one”... and then turning it around with her sneaky “gottcha” smile.

[Kablooie]

48. Until McConnell offers her a big bowl of ice cream.

She'll say sure, I'll drop my moral values for that!

And of course later McConnell eats all the ice cream himself and pays no attention to Collins.
It's an old routine and I would think it's getting stale but they all seem to love it.

Make no mistake, she will vote for whoever Trump wants, knowing full well abolishing Roe vs Wade comes along with the package.

Handmaid's tale -- here we come!

[Tatiana]

50. She's a liar. Don't believe her.

She'll vote to confirm whoever Trump nominates.

[calimary]

51. We'll see.

[Lunabell]

52. Liar

I don't trust any rethuglicans.

[orleans]

53. FUCK HER! SHE'S A FUCKING LIAR

i saw her on the a sunday show and basking in the limelight of being in such high demand once again. susan just loves to be the popular one.

i watched her, listened to her and wanted to PUKE!!!

[area51]

55. Collins is such an f-ing liar. n/t

[Mike Nelson]

56. Susan is...

… not a stupid woman. She knows the Justices lie to her about this issue and she lies to the voters. Look at who she's already voted for! If she were telling the truth, she would say. "I have CHANGED my policy of voting for anti-ROE v WADE Justices and will NOW vote them down."

[chelsea0011]

57. How's that promise from Mitch for her vote against aspects of the ACA working out for her?

She is horrible and gullible to boot. Does she really believe she will get any nominee to say they will never vote to overturn Roe v. Wade? She is the worst. A moderate by the media's standards only.

[blueinredohio]

58. She will get suckered in.

Whoever ipod nominated is not going to admit anything but we all know what their agenda is.

[samnsara]

59. nominees will say any damned thing they want to get the job

[sdfernando]

60. She can "say" whatever she wants

her actions in the past prove her word is worthless.

put up or shut up!

[Raster]

62. Nothing to see here, folks...

[Izzy Blue]

63. Collins will cave to whomever the nominee is

Then say something ludicrous like I believe from your testimony that you wouldn't overturn it and I'll be watching you closely.

Meanwhile the democrats had entered evidence against the nominee where they state they are pro-life and think R v W should be overturned.

How would it work when during a confirmation hearing the nominee says that they would never vote to overturn Roe vs Wade but would consider restrictions then once on the bench they vote to overturn it?

[BigDemVoter]

64. Horse SHIT.

Senator Collins is one of the biggest assholes in the Senate. She lies through her ample ASS. Fuck her.

[Izzy Blue]

65. Protect Roe vs Wade.?. That train already left the station.

Collins and Lisa Murkowski both voted to confirm arch-conservative Neil Gorsuch to the Court.

[Dan]

66. She lies...

she just wants someone to give her an excuse to justify her vote... okay if the excuse is a lie, just some fig leaf to cover her vote, is all she wants.

[Izzy Blue]

67. If true she didn't waste any time

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[jpak]

68. The Fix is **In**

They have the vote - they don't need hers.

We are not amused.

nope