[US Senator] Jones: Supreme Court nomination shouldn't wait for midterm

[Cryptoad]

Source: Anniston Star



Doug Jones spoke at the Calhoun County Chamber of Commerce in Anniston on Friday morning. Photo by Stephen Gross / The Anniston Star
Photo by Stephen Gross / The Anniston Star

By Tim Lockette, Star Staff Writer, [e-mail] Jun 29, 2018 (…)

Democrats shouldn’t hold out for midterm elections before holding a vote on a new Supreme Court justice, U.S. Sen. Doug Jones, D-Birmingham, told a crowd in Anniston on Friday.

“I don’t think two wrongs make a right,” Jones said after a speech at the Calhoun County Chamber of

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Didn't take him long,,,,,,

[dameatball]

1. One wrong doesn't either.

[forgotmylogin]

13. No, two wrongs are two wrongs.

They need to shut it down until the investigation is over unless they can secure that Trump's justices will recuse themselves from any decisions related to it.

[dameatball]

14. Hell yes. not sure how to make that happen unless some Repubs switch and some Dems don't cave.

[unblock]

2. And mcturtle softly mcchuckles, "sucker!"

[LenaBaby61]

3. "[US Senator] Jones: Supreme Court nomination shouldn't wait for midterm."

[grantcart]

4. Not a simple issue. If the seat is left open until the Mid Terms it will help unify Republicans

and drive up the GOTV for Republicans.


There is a strong case for getting this over as soon as possible so it doesn't have an impact on Republican turnout and I am guessing that Jones isn't the only one who hopes that it isn't an issue for the election. It could cost us his seat.

In any case aspersions against Senator Jones who has dedicated his life to the cause is uncalled for.

[tosh]

11. Good point. nt

[DeminPennswoods]

18. The nutcase GOP base turns out regardless

and will continue to turn out.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Have to think about that one... not so sure, but can't dismiss it out of hand either.

[SamKnause]

5. How stupid can these fuckers be ???

They are willingly letting the Republican party take complete control of this country.

The Republican party controls the government when they are in the minority.

The Republican party controls the government when they are in the majority.

Are they going to continue to roll over and give the country to the LYING EVIL REPUBLICANS ???

[aintitfunny]

6. Fuck him

[Takket]

7. Don't get too upset over this...............

Jones has 0 say on when the hearings and vote will occur. That is all McConnell. So Jones's opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant. All that matters is he voted No if Drumpf comes with a judge to turn over Roe (spoiler alert: drumpf will)

[Loubee]

8. Oh well. At least Alabama isn't represented by a pedophile. Baby steps.

[Devil Child]

9. Coward n/t

[trof]

10. Let me refresh your memories on Sen. Doug Jones (D. AL)

He was fortunate enough to be able to run against the only repug he could have possibly defeated in bright red Alabama, the infamous Judge Roy Moore.

Jones may be a DINO for now. It's the only way he can hold on to the seat, and he'll probably lose to whoever the repugs run in the next election.

I'm not excusing his actions, just telling you how it is.
BTW I live in Alabama and was born and raised here.

[yallerdawg]

35. Democrat Jones makes 49.

2 more and EVERYTHING changes!

WE did our part here in Alabama!

[Freethinker65]

12. He is correct. There is no way to stop the vote.

Better to get it over with. Women, labor, minorities, etc. will know what we are up against if they continue to vote GOP without checks and balances.

Some single issue voters (anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, etc. ) now that they have the court they want might even vote Democratic out of fear of losing health insurance for themselves and dependents, losing consumer protection, losing Medicare and Social Security, etc.

Best we can hope for is a verbal non-enforceable guarantee that justices nominated by Trump and seated will recuse themselves if/when Trump is called upon to testify or stand trial for his high crimes and misdemeanors...or if he tries to delay such action or preemptively pardon himself.

[rockfordfile]

26. Americans need to get loud with their disapproval of how the republicans are going about this

You don't go "oh well" on a SC seat without a fight. That's the kind of thinking that got you a gop Congress in 2010. Democratic Party needs to be strong.

[Freethinker65]

36. Agree, you do not go Oh Well, get loud, but there is no way to stop it. Use it to elect Democrats

Now that they have their socially conservative court for a while, they need to elect Democrats to save Medicare and social security, save pre-existing conditions in health insurance and access affordable health care, save our resources and infrastructure from privatization. Cite where the Republicans have proposed these things! Only Democrats can stop that legislation from reaching Trump's desk.

[YOHABLO]

15. That is ridiculous. Yes, do what ever is necessary to block this Trump appointment.

We can't let them stick another ultra right winger on the court. Fuck this ''two wrongs don't make a right" shit. This is fucking WAR ! Do you want a Democracy or a Fascist Authoritarian block of Supremes running the country. Bye bye a woman's right to choose, bye bye same sex marriage, bye bye social security, medicare, medicaid, and what's left of Obama care (ACA).

[0rganism]

16. he might be onto something

if the vote is delayed it motivates the hell out of their base.

if the vote is held soon, people other than Trump's base will have time to become motivated for the midterms, while a segment of Trump's base may become sluggish.

i think, if Democrats push for a delay, McConnell will grant one so he can laugh at us when they hold the Senate in the midterms. it might be a stronger strategy to let the vote happen and then hold the R's accountable for their position. hard to say, there are no good options in this situation. i do think if McConnell grants a delay he knows the fix is in for the midterms -- the odds were very much in their favor anyway with mostly Democratic incumbents up for re-election.

we'll see. i hope Sen. Schumer will have a strategy ready to handle either path.

[Recursion]

21. But the vote's not going to be delayed

This is all exceedingly silly. The vote will happen when McConnell wants it to.

[rockfordfile]

24. When you don't fight for something people see you as a party with no backbone

Win or lose you still fight for issues/ SC seat etc..

[Horizens]

17. Mistake?

It wasn't a mistake. It was done on purpose and the Dems should do everything and anything to block any nominee.
I'm sooooooo f'n tired of Dems rolling over.

[Recursion]

20. What should the Dems do?

Seriously, I keep hearing this and I'm mystified. What do you people want them to do?

[Recursion]

19. No sense standing in front of a moving truck

We don't have the votes to stop this, so I don't see any point in Jones antagonizing his constituents over it.

[rpannier]

25. Which constituents...

The ones who voted for him, or the ones who will never vote for him
Checking with the large segment of the African-American population might be a good start, since that's what lifted and carried him
Maybe his refusal to try and block it will antagonize them

I'll be honest and say, "I don't know what the African-American community in Alabama thinks about this."
But, I don't see any upside in pleasing the regressive community in Alabama

[Recursion]

29. Nervous white chamber of commerce types in Mobile and Hunstville

(I volunteered for his campaign so I get kind of wonkish about his bases)

I'm not in touch with them anymore but I assume the calculus is that making a pointless stand alienates more Panera-eating non-native white Republicans in those two areas than not making a pointless stand alienates black voters in Montgomery. If there was a possibility of stopping the appointment things would probably be different. From what I remember the polling indicated white voters were a lot more taken in by cheap, phony symbolic gestures than black voters were.

[rpannier]

30. Then I cede this discussion to you

You are better informed than I am
Thank you for your reply

[Recursion]

31. I just want to be clear I'm not sure it's the *right* choice

But I'm pretty confident that's the calculation they performed. Black AL voters are

1. Not quite as pro-choice as the national Democratic party as a whole (though that gap apparently is closing rapidly)
2. Not easily taken in by white politicians making promises they can't or won't meet (and trying to block this nomination counts as that)

[rpannier]

32. I understand what you are saying

I am just saying you have some first hand experience and, while you are not claiming to be an authority on Alabama politics, have at least been there and met with people. I haven't been to Alabama in over 3 decades. So you have some knowledge of the situation (better than I) mine is all conjecture based on not much.
There are likely people in DU who know more and maybe they will come on and provide a greater explanation of what the situation is in their neck of the woods

[Recursion]

33. I am confident that within the next 3 elections, a black candidate

will run for and win one of the deep south Senate seats. It's entirely possibly Espy will pull it off in MS this year, but failing that, GA or SC may do it.

Jones was the right man at the right time, but I think our party's future in the deep south is in candidates of color, personally.

[Turbineguy]

22. We don't know if those

under consideration will want the job. Supreme Court Justice is the pinnacle. Who would want that tainted by having your name with the word Trump behind it? Whoever was nominated and rammed trough by McConnell's thugs would have to spend their entire time having to prove they were not corrupt.

[rockfordfile]

23. What did these people do? get together with the same bs line

I don't hear/read these putting up Merrick Garland name for SC.

There should be no seating until after the mid-terms and the Russian investigations.

[AlexSFCA]

28. doug jones is in tough position; it's a miracle he is a senator

[KPN]

34. Our Constitution is failing us. When the majority of Americans can be

essentially ignored because of the electoral college and States like Wyoming have an equal day in legislation because they have the same number of Senators as NY and CA, it isn’t working.

Screw the “we are a Republic” bullshit. It has become primarily just a means to enable and empower white supremacy, so-called Christianity and oligarchy.