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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:24 PM Jun 2018

Schumer: GOP Should Follow McConnell Precedent, No SCOTUS Vote In '18

Source: Talking Points Memo



By Matt Shuham | June 27, 2018 3:31 pm

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Wednesday urged Republicans to follow Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-KY) 2016 precedent and wait until after upcoming elections to consider a nominee to fill retiring Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy’s seat.

“Our Republican colleagues in the Senate should follow the rule they set in 2016 not to consider a Supreme Court justice in an election year,” he said. “Sen. McConnell would tell anyone who listened that the Senate had the right to advise and consent, and that was every bit as important as the President’s right to nominate. Millions of people are just months away from determining the senators who should vote to confirm or reject the President’s nominee, and their voices deserve to be heard now as Leader McConnell thought they should deserve to be heard then.”

“Anything but that would be the absolute height of hypocrisy,” he added.

In 2016, McConnell and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) refused to consider President Barack Obama’s nominee to fill late Justice Antonin Scalia’s seat, Merrick Garland. Instead, the seat was held open for months following Garland’s March 2016 nomination, until President Donald Trump had assumed office and nominated Neil Gorsuch for the seat.

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Schumer: GOP Should Follow McConnell Precedent, No SCOTUS Vote In '18 (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
Yeah. Good luck with that, Chuck Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #1
At least he's saying it, unlike Blumenthal! lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #29
Bluementhal reversed himself. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #33
Thanks for the good news! lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #38
I agree, but the problem with that is they won't, and the Democrats have very little influence on still_one Jun 2018 #2
Maybe fate will step in cannabis_flower Jun 2018 #40
maybe still_one Jun 2018 #41
Get some steel for your spine Mr. Schumer and more for the caucus irisblue Jun 2018 #3
Just heard some blowhard on msnbc talking about this dhol82 Jun 2018 #4
Trump started runing for re-election as soon as he took office. Qutzupalotl Jun 2018 #26
Excellent point! dhol82 Jun 2018 #44
Chuck chuck chuck. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #5
No, he -doesn't- sound weaker for saying it. Shipwack Jun 2018 #35
No Judicial confirmations in this last year of tRump's Presidency. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #7
Oh Prof... FBaggins Jun 2018 #12
Thanks, but I'm not trying to be funny. And it looks like Schumer is thinking similar way Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #15
Did Schumer become majority leader when I wasn't looking? FBaggins Jun 2018 #16
No. And if you think it is all a joke, please try to tell Schumer and not us. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #18
Schumer knows that he's just getting what he can FBaggins Jun 2018 #21
49 votes is the starting point, not the end point. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #25
IOKIYAR no_hypocrisy Jun 2018 #8
Time to show up at hearings....................and protest ...........end of story turbinetree Jun 2018 #9
That's not the end of the story because that is not all that can be done. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #19
WE have to get out and vote, and we should be protesting..................... turbinetree Jun 2018 #20
+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #24
Fantasyland. jalan48 Jun 2018 #10
They then gave him the finger and he went back to talking about food. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #11
Chuckie will not put up any fight. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #13
Wow...what weak sauce. We simply get played again and again and again NRaleighLiberal Jun 2018 #14
Isn't this the same tactic that Schumer used for Garland? Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #23
And here's what McConnell says about that: KPN Jun 2018 #22
"Should"? Did he say "should"? Bwahahahaha. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #27
That is as far as he will go. That was it. JDC Jun 2018 #28
Let's go further than that RocRizzo55 Jun 2018 #30
Welcome to DU, RocRizzo55. calimary Jun 2018 #37
Nobody ever listens to me. RocRizzo55 Jun 2018 #45
uggggg rtracey Jun 2018 #31
fascist always play by different rules elmac Jun 2018 #32
I would hope Chuck and the rest gibraltar72 Jun 2018 #34
Screw civility, Chuck. It's time to go to the matresses dflprincess Jun 2018 #36
Can't help wondering, how thirsty is the Tree of Liberty? n/t slumcamper Jun 2018 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #42
mmmhmmm 0rganism Jun 2018 #43

Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #6)

still_one

(92,372 posts)
2. I agree, but the problem with that is they won't, and the Democrats have very little influence on
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jun 2018

that since they don't have the majority in the Senate, and even if they did I have no doubt that trump would appoint someone when Congress is on recess


cannabis_flower

(3,765 posts)
40. Maybe fate will step in
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:13 PM
Jun 2018

and they will confirm him and he will have an unfortunate death by natural causes after the November election.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
4. Just heard some blowhard on msnbc talking about this
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jun 2018

His comment was that there was no comparison with the Merrick Garland situation.
That was during a presidential election year. This one is just a midterm election. See - no comparison. Said we have to follow the Biden rule.

Fat fuck! Hope he chokes on his own bile.

Qutzupalotl

(14,322 posts)
26. Trump started runing for re-election as soon as he took office.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018

So it’s presidential election season if not a presidential election year.

C_U_L8R

(45,019 posts)
5. Chuck chuck chuck.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jun 2018

That's a lame point... you sound weak suggesting it.
I'd rather you speak to us Democrats and the American people
and tell us how you propose to actually protect our Constitution
from the looming rightwing threat. We are really concerned here.

Shipwack

(2,170 posts)
35. No, he -doesn't- sound weaker for saying it.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jun 2018

We all seem weaker when we offer no push-back against what the Republicans do or say.

The time for being quiet for fear of sounding "weak" (whatever that means) or argumentative or "uncivil" is past.

Time to make some noise, John Lewis style.

"Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble." - Rep John Lewis

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
16. Did Schumer become majority leader when I wasn't looking?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jun 2018

No?

Then a joke is the best we can get out of it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,033 posts)
18. No. And if you think it is all a joke, please try to tell Schumer and not us.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jun 2018

We've had lots of defeatism and negativity on DU today.

There are lots of intelligent people with knowledge and ideas in the Party. There are lots of things Democrats can do, as I suggested in another of my posts and that was just off the top of my head. But if you want to convince us it is hopeless, then perhaps you can find somewhere else more in tune with that idea.

49 votes in the Senate is not powerless and McCONnell and tRump can't nominate just anybody and expect their razor thin margin to hold.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
21. Schumer knows that he's just getting what he can
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jun 2018

There's zero chance that he actually thinks that he can score more than a couple rhetorical points (particularly since he was firmly on the other side at the time).

There are lots of intelligent people with knowledge and ideas in the Party. There are lots of things Democrats can do

The only thing they can do is convince a couple Republicans to vote with them while holding all of the Democrats running for Senate in red states.

But if you want to convince us it is hopeless,

Nobody said that it was "hopeless"... but we do need to live in reality. McConnel isn't going to wake up and say "you know what? He's right!"

49 votes in the Senate is not powerless

Thanks to that same Schumer... in this case yes it is. If they can't expect their thin margin to hold... then we don't have 49 votes.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,033 posts)
25. 49 votes is the starting point, not the end point.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jun 2018

It's the Republicans who have a razor thin margin. Flake, McCain, Snow, Murkowski might be persuaded to peel away.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
14. Wow...what weak sauce. We simply get played again and again and again
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jun 2018

keeping powder dry

sending a stern statement

I am sure republicans simply shake in their boots at our tactics

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
17. Isn't this the same tactic that Schumer used for Garland?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jun 2018

[link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chuck-schumer-turns-the-tables-on-mitch-mcconnell-in-senate-confirmation-process/|]

Why would it work this time? Reading from the same tired script of trying to shame the shameless.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has returned an identical letter that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell sent to Harry Reid in 2009 on the Cabinet nomination process, calling on Republicans Monday to comply with the same conditions Republicans demanded when it came to President Obama’s nominees.

Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #17)

KPN

(15,649 posts)
22. And here's what McConnell says about that:
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jun 2018

The Senate stands ready to fulfill its constitutional role by offering advice and consent on President Trump’s nominee to fill this vacancy,” Mr. McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, said after Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement. “We will vote to confirm Justice Kennedy’s successor this fall.”

Isn't that what Chuck Schumer was saying just 2 years and a few months ago?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. "Should"? Did he say "should"? Bwahahahaha.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:18 PM
Jun 2018

The only reason to make a statement like that is to set up the long obstruction by the Dems to the confirmation. Otherwise, it's meaningless, IMO.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
30. Let's go further than that
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:23 PM
Jun 2018

No hearings until after Mueller investigation, impeachments and prosecutions are done.
No president who is under investigation for high crimes and misdemeanors should be allowed to have any choice at a Supreme Court appointment until proven not guilty.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
31. uggggg
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jun 2018

Quit this crap......get in there and get dirty...FUCK THEM.... filibuster everything we can......

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
32. fascist always play by different rules
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jun 2018

while we always play by the rules. That doesn't work. We need to go medieval on their asses.

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
36. Screw civility, Chuck. It's time to go to the matresses
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jun 2018

Long past time actually. I hope you and the party leadership are finally figuring that out.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

0rganism

(23,967 posts)
43. mmmhmmm
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:30 PM
Jun 2018

that's a very nice fantasy you have there Sen. Schumer
shame if something were to happen to it...

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