Gay Employees of Virginia Restaurant Urged Removal of Sarah Huckabee Sanders

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Source: advocate






Co-owner Stephanie Wilkinson was thinking of her workers and the cruel policies the Press Secretary espouses when she told her to go.
By Neal Broverman
June 24 2018 1:15 PM EDT

Stephanie Wilkinson, the co-owner of the tiny Red Hen restaurant in the small town of Lexington, Va., stands by her decision to tell Sarah Huckabee Sanders she wasn't welcome in her restaurant.

Wilkinson told The Washington Post that her decision to ask the White House Press Secretary to leave on Friday night stemmed from her gay employees; many were upset by Sanders's defense for the administration's ban on transgender servicemembers (currently tied up in the courts). Sanders also recently praised a Supreme Court ruling that sided with an antigay baker who refused service to a gay couple and said the president was OK with businesses posting signs that said LGBT people weren't welcome. Sanders also stood by while her boss separated migrants from their children at the southern border. ..............................

Read more: https://www.advocate.com/politics/2018/6/24/gay-employees-virginia-restaurant-urged-removal-sarah-huckabee-sanders

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[JI7]

1. But she is a superior hetero xtian who should not be treated like "those people"

That deserve it.

[sandensea]

8. Let me tell you: If all women were like Sarah Hickabee,

there'd be a lot fewer straight guys, that's for sure.

[Archae]

2. I realize this may get me slammed...

But I think Sanders being thrown out crossed the line.

She was not causing any trouble, she may be a liar for Trump, but hell.
We are screaming bloody murder about a baker not making a cake for a gay couple, so that gives us the right to get as bad as that?

If an aide to Obama had been kicked out of a restaurant *JUST* because he/she worked for Obama, we'd be going apeshit.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. That's bullshit bothsideism, first of all.

Second of all, kicking someone out for their actions (defending and enabling bigotry) is not the same as refusing to serve someone for the way they were born (sexual orientation or skin color etc.).

[Yupster]

5. I agree Archae

When I go to a donut shop, I want a donut. I don't want to hear the clerk's political opinions or be judged for mine.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Restaurant owners and managers throw out patrons for bad behavior all the time.

They have a right to refuse service for any reason except protected status. No line was crossed, unless you've drawn one that puts you and torture apologists on the same side.

[Cold War Spook]

19. What?

There was no bad behavior. So you can't refuse service to a gay, but you can if that gay is wearing a Clinton for President t-shirt and you state that is why you refused to serve him.

[paleotn]

23. 1.5 years of bad behavior....

or haven't you been paying attention?

[paleotn]

7. she believes in discrimination

based on her "religion." She praised the recent SCOTUS ruling on such. While you make a good point, I think she deserved a little of her own medicine. Little good it will do, though. One has a better chance changing the mind of a fence post as getting through to her and her ilk.

[Igel]

20. So we can throw people out for their beliefs?

"I'll seat African-Americans, but not if they don't believe the same thing I do. I'm not discriminating against skin color, I'm merely being differentially tolerant--in other words, I tolerate those I agree with, but those I don't agree with, not in the least."

Sort of redefines "tolerate" to mean "like." As opposed to, well, "tolerate."

[paleotn]

22. So, does your standard include...

those who believe all races are inferior to the so called white race? We should just calmly put up with their shit? Those who want to impose their religion on the rest of us, by legislation and nation state force if necessary? Neo-Nazis perhaps? You know, those who think Hitler was just misunderstood? Those who deny the slaughter of 6 million Jews? We should just put up with their shit...you know...tolerance and all. That's what we're up against, Igel. Sorry, but I'm am most decidedly intolerant of those who are intolerant. You just go on being all sweet, kind and cuddly. It's worked so well for us before. I, on the other hand, will throw her out on her ArKEENsauw ass. Same for Nielsen's apartheid ass. Seriously, she looks and sounds like she time traveled from 1980's Johannesburg.

[JI7]

9. SHS herself supported that baker and others discriminating against lgbt

[Yupster]

15. Didn't the baker say the gay couple were long time customers

and were welcome back any time.

He said they were welcome to buy any cake, or any other thing he sold. His objection was to making a special cake for their wedding.

A comparitive argument to this one would be if the owner told Huckaby that she could order anything on the menu, but then Huckaby said he wanted desert and on the ice cream sundae, could you please use the hot fudge to spell out "I Love Trump". The owner would say, eat here, anything on the menu, but I won't do a special order I disagree with.

Do we really want Republican and Democratic auto parts stores and hot dog stands.

This owner was wrong to not serve someone based on their political beliefs.

[JI7]

16. wedding cakes are always special orders. the gay couple wanted what any couple getting married

would want which was a message referring to them .

[Igel]

21. Yes and no.

Yes, in that you have to write something like, "Happy nuptials, Ben and Jerry" or "Kate and Mark".

I can get special order cakes mass produced at Walmart. Walmart doesn't lay claims to artistry.

My wedding cake was modified off-the-shelf (and not from Walmart). There was a check list and it was assembled accordingly. Somebody else could have ordered the same thing and it would have looked the same. Don't even think it said "Igel and Igelina" on it. Stock decorations. Freedom of speech? No. Any of the people behind the counter with the chops to bake a cake and apply fluting and mimic the pattern from the book would have produced the same thing. That's the "artistry" of some picture mills where an artist makes 50 copies from a template, all pretty much identical ... this week.

Then there are special orders where they sit down and go over in detail what they want, perhaps color coordinating, doing various fancy things.

Not like Walmart. Or the place we got ours.

[LanternWaste]

18. I ask for my steak to be cooked medium-well. That is by definition, a special order.

Isn't each wedding cake a "special order," as they each require a personal touch and customization vis-a-vis the wedding couple.

If not, what precisely was unique about the cake that had been absent on all other orders?

Otherwise, your comparative argument contains a fundamentally flawed premise predicated on editorial rather than objective matter.

You see, I ask for my steak to be cooked medium-well. That is by definition, a special order.

[7962]

11. Yes you WILL. Because discrimination will be justified.

People are thrown out of places all the time. yes. But because they've done something INSIDE the business.

Your last line is also correct. I remember seeing a few posts "back in the day" about idiots putting up signs saying "no democrats" and everyone here DID go apeshit.
Hypocrites.

[heaven05]

12. really

keep being fair to these racist clowns. They will bury you with lies and being victims. I TOTALLY disagree with you. Both sides are bad, right?

[LanternWaste]

17. apply critical thought.

I think simply being asked to leave as opposed to "thrown out" is the first editorial flaw in your premise.

Work down from there, and apply critical thought. Avoid the false equivalencies (relevant differences you ignore make them as such). Avoid the post hoc implication it was "just" because he/she worked for X, and realize the iceberg is much deeper than a casual glance allows.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. SH Sanders received the treatment she prefers

"Sanders also recently praised a Supreme Court ruling that sided with an antigay baker who refused service to a gay couple"

You like discrimination, you got it!

[Gothmog]

10. I need to go eat at this place

[YOHABLO]

13. It was said that the owner took a vote by her staff. They weren't all gay were they?

[Julian Englis]

14. 80 years ago: Jewish employees in Hamburg Cafe complain about serving Goebbels n/t