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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:08 PM Jun 2018

White House to Propose Merging Education, Labor Departments

Source: Wall Street Journal

The White House plans to propose merging the Departments of labor and education as part of a broader reorganization of the federal government, said a person with knowledge of the proposal.

An announcement is planned for Thursday morning, after a months long review of cabinet agencies with an eye toward shrinking the federal government.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-propose-merging-education-labor-departments-1529533148

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White House to Propose Merging Education, Labor Departments (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jun 2018 OP
WHAT ?? pangaia Jun 2018 #1
Exactly. Keep the chaos rolling; Putin is applauding. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #5
NO, NOT TRUCK FUMP....... a kennedy Jun 2018 #10
Remember Rick Perry debate? Eliminate Departments of? OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #25
It was the Department of Energy neohippie Jun 2018 #39
He wanted to eleminat 3 Departments, EDUCATION was one of the 3 OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #42
Yes I was just filling in your blank neohippie Jun 2018 #43
All the better to kill Teacher Unions! James48 Jun 2018 #2
+1 Part of the plan. appalachiablue Jun 2018 #33
I wish the White House would vote to eliminate itself. mwooldri Jun 2018 #3
the effort to drown it in a bathtub continues unabated. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2018 #4
Idiots. Wrong merger. They should merge Agriculture and Veterans Affairs dalton99a Jun 2018 #6
children + work equals child labor BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #7
First thing that crossed my mind. Nothing surprises me any more. pazzyanne Jun 2018 #14
Let it turn. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #27
Who will lead this new Department of Laborious Education? nature-lover Jun 2018 #8
Mindset that view education only as training. Not for a questioning electorate. Do as you are told. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #9
My first thought as well. n/t Coventina Jun 2018 #21
WTF?!? What's his scam, a pipeline directly from Kindergarten to Princess Royal's catbyte Jun 2018 #11
They forgot ..... Toorich Jun 2018 #12
Why wouldn't they just merge Education and Health and Human Services and simply call it Midwestern Democrat Jun 2018 #13
Because that makes more sense? pazzyanne Jun 2018 #15
Merge smerge Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #29
Don't trust these clowns to merge a mail list let alone any part of our government bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #16
Makes perfect sense. The Department of Child Labor. Eom tarheelsunc Jun 2018 #17
Good idea. I've long thought the Bureau of Labor Statistics would make an excellent mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #18
but they do completely different things.... that makes no sense Takket Jun 2018 #19
Bc nobody is stopping them. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #30
No critical thinking skills needed for the masses working for the rich Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #20
Thank You Donny BlueIdaho Jun 2018 #22
First step to eliminate the Labor Department, next the Education goes. procon Jun 2018 #23
Is this some kind of joke? smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #24
I expected nothing less AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #26
I've never been a fan of how the federal ed dept operates, janx Jun 2018 #28
Sounds like Nasruddin Jun 2018 #31
Education as labor force training. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #32
Well said, the true purpose of education. appalachiablue Jun 2018 #34
Thank you, appalachiablue Solly Mack Jun 2018 #37
K&R - Solly, that was what formed me into a liberal thinker! KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #36
Me, too. It's how I was taught. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #38
Something missing in this merger.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #35
Right. Merge them and defund them both, killing two birds with one Republican stone. Nitram Jun 2018 #40
And that says much about how they see government... malthaussen Jun 2018 #41
Recycling Old Idea. Repubs first proposed it in 1995 onenote Jun 2018 #44

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
25. Remember Rick Perry debate? Eliminate Departments of?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:31 PM
Jun 2018
During a late-2011 Republican-primary debate on CNBC, Perry said he would eliminate three cabinet-level departments should he be elected.

He named the Department of Commerce and the Department of Education but could not recall the third.

"It's three agencies of the government that when I get there that are gone," Perry said. "Commerce, Education, and the uh, um, what's the third one there, let's see."


Every GOP idea ever hatched and shelved since Nixon is being dusted off and enacted.

Grover Norquist must be so pleased,

This is a HOSTILE TAKEOVER?

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
39. It was the Department of Energy
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:07 AM
Jun 2018

He wanted to eliminate the Department of Energy because he had no idea of what it did. And then Trump appointed him to be the head of it. You can't make this stuff up.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2016/12/13/13936210/rick-perry-energy-department-trump

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
42. He wanted to eleminat 3 Departments, EDUCATION was one of the 3
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:27 AM
Jun 2018

Eliminating dept of ed has been a GOP dream for years

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
43. Yes I was just filling in your blank
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

I am aware that there are plans to deconstruct as much government as possible, they've come in with their wrecking ball and aren't stopping now

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
3. I wish the White House would vote to eliminate itself.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jun 2018

Or rather the present leadership... sine there is no real leadership the role of POTUS seems to be redundant.

Yup. Fire Trump. That'll save millions.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
6. Idiots. Wrong merger. They should merge Agriculture and Veterans Affairs
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe Transportation and the Treasury, or Commerce and Defense

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
27. Let it turn.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:38 PM
Jun 2018

Let that anger turn.
We are all in this together. It's a proposal. We don't know what tomorrow will bring. I can tell you this, piss off the teachers and labor unions...Watch the shitake hit the fan, BIG TIME bc these people TAUGHT the world to protest American style. Even cops have labor unions. If it's all going to blow....better sooner than later imo.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
11. WTF?!? What's his scam, a pipeline directly from Kindergarten to Princess Royal's
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:37 PM
Jun 2018

sweatshops to be set up once they overturn child labor laws?

Toorich

(391 posts)
12. They forgot .....
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:45 PM
Jun 2018

to incorporate the Bureau of Prisons into the equation.
Put the kids in the "private" prisons, that way they'll be safe.
They can be trained to do prison labor by the inmates.
That way we will no longer have to pay the greedy public school teachers.
It's a win-win-win for DeVose.

13. Why wouldn't they just merge Education and Health and Human Services and simply call it
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:50 PM
Jun 2018

the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) - which is where those functions used to be until 1979? The Department of Labor has been around since 1913. Note: I don't want them to do this, but if they want to merge Education, this would make more sense than merging it with Labor.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
29. Merge smerge
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jun 2018

Leave the govt alone. If it needs to be changed, why didn't Obama say so? We aren't merging shit. We have a govt for all of us, not dt and his merry band of men. for what? More tax cuts?? Wheres the jobs from the LAST tax cutS??? No more giving in to this shit.

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
16. Don't trust these clowns to merge a mail list let alone any part of our government
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 09:59 PM
Jun 2018

Total incompetence at every turn

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
18. Good idea. I've long thought the Bureau of Labor Statistics would make an excellent
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:07 PM
Jun 2018

multi-level marketing scheme, à la Amway.

Seriously, I'm not seeing it. DOL has a strong regulatory history.

No wonder they want to get rid of it.

Freethinker65

(10,048 posts)
20. No critical thinking skills needed for the masses working for the rich
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:16 PM
Jun 2018

Just get rid of education altogether. Send those taker kids to work.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
22. Thank You Donny
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jun 2018

For lending a hand with our big beautiful blue wave. His desperation is forcing his minions to tragically miscalculate public opinion...

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. First step to eliminate the Labor Department, next the Education goes.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jun 2018

The Oligarchs are slavering, the Fascists are arming up, and the Republicans are sharing a cigarette.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
26. I expected nothing less
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jun 2018

deconstruction of admin state, eliminate D of Labor, D of Education, EPA, HHS eventually, reallocate resources to DHS/ICE. Dramatic expansion of prisons is expected soon after sessions starts to enforce DEA on marijuana. They will be trying to take over corporate boards of media companies to control the message. Meanwhile alt right groups across the county are getting more embolden every day.

janx

(24,128 posts)
28. I've never been a fan of how the federal ed dept operates,
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jun 2018

but this is both ridiculous and predictable.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
32. Education as labor force training.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:18 AM
Jun 2018

Emphasis on turning out worker bees who are obedient to authority and have no thoughts of their own. They'll learn how bad unions are and how the company has their best interests at heart. They'll learn their only value is in working hard and never complaining. Never expecting more. Never having choices.



Education is so much more than learning a trade or having a profession.

It makes us better people. It teaches us to think and to look beyond what we think we know to a world of infinite possibilities. It tells us to dare to dream and then gives us the tools to make those dreams come true.

Education should never be used as some blueprint for conditioning young minds to be mindless workers for the state.

Education should free your mind. Education doesn't seek to narrow the possibilities, but rather opens them up.

It teaches us we have choices and provides the necessary information to make the best choice possible.

Education helps us to grow.

Solly Mack, former Educator and someone who still believes in the power of knowledge.





Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
37. Thank you, appalachiablue
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 03:35 AM
Jun 2018

Between Trump and DeVos there is no telling the full horror they have planned for education, but I know it will be bad.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
36. K&R - Solly, that was what formed me into a liberal thinker!
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 02:04 AM
Jun 2018

Perhaps the opposite of what Repugs want. None of this open-minded shit for the masses......

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
35. Something missing in this merger....
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 02:00 AM
Jun 2018

there's surely a way to sprinkle some religion in there, too.

Department of God's Smart Obedient Little Laborers..........

Nitram

(22,877 posts)
40. Right. Merge them and defund them both, killing two birds with one Republican stone.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jun 2018

The goal is to entirely revoke The New Deal.

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