Scott surges past Nelson with older Florida voters

[DonViejo]

Source: Politico



By MARC CAPUTO 06/11/2018 05:07 AM EDT

Gov. Rick Scott is virtually tied with Sen. Bill Nelson among Florida voters, but the Republican is dominating the Democrat by 9 points among those nearing or at retirement age — a group that casts the majority of Florida’s votes.

The results, drawn from a forthcoming POLITICO/AARP poll delving into the policy views of Florida voters aged 50 and older, exposes a political divide that bodes relatively well for Republicans when compared to some nationwide polling that shows a more-favorable environment for Democrats.

Overall, voters in the nation’s largest swing state are almost evenly split when it comes to opinions of President Trump’s job performance, with 48 percent approving and 49 percent disapproving. But Trump’s job approval rises to 52 percent and his disapproval falls to 44 percent among voters older than 50 — a crucial demographic in the retiree-heavy state because they have historically cast about two-thirds of all the ballots in midterm elections.

Similarly, Scott leads Nelson overall by 40 percent to 39 percent, but Scott’s support grows to 44 percent while Nelson’s shrinks to 35 percent with those 50 and older. Florida’s Senate race is shaping up to be the most expensive in the nation and could be the most expensive in Senate history, with some estimating it could hit the $200 million mark.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/11/florida-senate-scott-nelson-poll-635358

[RandiFan1290]

1. Nelson better NOT lose that seat!

[bearsfootball516]

2. LOT of old people in Florida that love to vote Republican.

[dameatball]

3. I lived in Florida for 50 years.

In my youth, much of the state was Democratic, although not all of course. With development came (even more) retirees and transplants, living with like-minded people in huge developments such as "The Villages," which have more or less become cities unto themselves. Heavily conservative with some liberals. There are also quite a few military bases. This is exactly why Repubs fear the Parkland students and anyone trying to shake the status quo.. They want to keep the younger generation unenthused about voting.

Dems have their work cut out. If a convicted Medicaid defrauder can defeat an incumbent senator it bodes ill for the future.

[Historic NY]

4. Scott likes to meddle with Medicare, wait until he screws with Social Security

[PatSeg]

5. The man who oversaw the largest Medicare

fraud in history is winning over older voters? Its not like it is some deep, dark secret.

[workinclasszero]

9. Deplorables love to vote in their GOP executioners

Their only thoughts are hate, reinforced everyday by Fox "news", hate radio and their local mega church.

Attack Gays, PoC, libruls and the poor.

Fuck them! Lets get the millions of non haters in this country that never vote to the polls!

[PatSeg]

11. And hope that the deplorables

go back to watching cheesy reality TV and leave politics to the more informed and rational. Unfortunately Fox and Alex Jones have become the new reality TV.

[Cosmocat]

15. America 2018

and, this is an important point for those who put our woes on "the education system."

Not saying he don't need to do better, but the stupid in the polls on election day breaks pretty clearly as the older people get.

[PatSeg]

17. And older people

often tend to watch more television, so a lot depends on what they are watching. After going through a really rough period, my sister started watching Fox News all day long and became addicted. She has said some pretty crazy crap that did not reflect the person I knew or the family who raised us. The brainwashing is very effective and scary as hell.

I say this as an older person, who is inclined to question almost everything I hear or read.

[Cosmocat]

23. Oh, I tell the is story a lot

My mother was a JFK Democrat.

Got into CNN in the late 80s/early 90s.

Then by the late 90s slid over to Fox.

I took her out to lunch during the 2004 primaries at Wendy's, and she launched into an angry diatribe about how embarrased she was over Howard Dean and the "scream", and I was saddened because he was her kind of Dem that I know of growing up.

They got her ...

[PatSeg]

35. That is so sad

and I'm afraid that it is more common than we'd like to think. My ex brother-in-law was a huge JFK supporter, so when he supported Trump, I was appalled.

I noticed the biggest change after 9/11. So many of us had the TV tuned to cable news most every day and if the station happened to be Fox, some people became hooked. The tragedy was a gift to Fox. They had all the tools necessary to get unsuspecting people addicted.

I remember talking to a relatively intelligent woman and I disagreed with something she said. She proudly replied, "I keep myself informed". I knew what she meant by 'informed' immediately, she watched Fox News and thought it really was news. So many people moved from Dr. Phil and Big Brother to Fox News and thought they were informed. They didn't realize it was just another form of reality TV.

[still_one]

6. Sorry to say this, but much of America is a racist, sexist, bigoted country, with very short

memories.

While I question polls run by politico, who always go out of their way to always present a negative slant against Democrats in their stories, in this case most of the other polls indicate that the Florida Senate race is very close.

In order to stand a chance we really need to GOTV

[Jedi Guy]

8. I don't think that's true, actually.

The bit about much of America being racist, sexist, and bigoted, that is. Everyone has some bias, at least of the unconscious sort, as studies have shown us over and over.

But outright racism and bigotry? I don't think so. I think most Americans are decent people. But the racist shitheels kick out a lot more volume. They're an extremely loud minority compared to a quiet, decent minority. That's particularly true now, given that they feel their views are more socially acceptable with Dolt 45 running the show. They're just using up more bandwidth.

When we see news stories about racist incidents, it's easy to forget that these are happening in a nation of nearly 330 million people. With that many people you're bound to have some assholes in the crowd. But much of them? I don't think so.

[bsiebs]

12. Millions of Americans vote for republicans...

... therefore, there are millions of racists in America.

[Scruffy1]

14. Exactly.

As a matter of fact, I don't ever use ther word conservative. Racist asshole comes to mind. I consider the whole pro life BS as a mother hubbard to conceal fascist and racist tendencies. I remember the creation of the "moral amjority" in time for the 1980 elections, six years after Roe versus Wade. Of course the media always gives these fake movements credibility and promotes them. I'm waiting for someone in the MSM to ask what the term "conservative" really means of one of these bloviators in light of the fact that hey always empty the treasury and launch expensive wars. Currently, they are having real trouble hiring enough poverty wage workers so they are trying to force the disabled to take jobs by cutting assistance. If i still had a rotator cuff I would be throwing lead weighted Bibles at them.

[TheRealNorth]

19. Republicans

They might not all be donning white sheets and attending cross burning on Saturday nights, but most have varying degrees of racist attitudes.

[Jedi Guy]

22. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I come from a family of conservative Republicans and none of my family are racists. None of my conservative friends are racists.

But if you wanna tar an entire group with that big old broad brush because of some members of that group (which, incidentally, is how racists think) carry on. I'll be over here in the real world where nuance is a thing.

[0rganism]

24. to apply a thinner brush, "not all Republican voters are racists..."

"... but damn near all the racists are voting Republican."

[Jedi Guy]

25. I think that might be more accurate.

[bsiebs]

27. Stop

The Republican Party supports racist policies, appoint racists judges, as a party, pass laws to suppress minority voters, and on, and on, and on... I don’t give a rats ass what they like to think they are, if they support the Republican Party and it’s obvious racism, then they are racist.

[Jedi Guy]

29. K

[bsiebs]

33. Say that three times and David Duke appears ...

Peace

[Jedi Guy]

38. Okay.

That one legit made me laugh out loud, and I needed a laugh today. Thanks!

[still_one]

31. 45 million Americans voted for trump. 41% of Americans approve of trump today. Much of America is

racist, sexist, and bigoted

If you rationalize that a good number who voted for him were conned, that falls flat on its face because trump did not hide his racist, sexist views in his campaign

A year has gone by and 41% of the American populace approve of what he is doing

I stand by my statement, a good number of the populace approve of a racist sexist bigot

[Jedi Guy]

32. And I have more faith in my fellow Americans.

If you're convinced that about half the population in America is evil, then I really don't know what to say to you. Putting everyone in a "good" or "evil" category is a very simplistic and absolutist way of looking at the world.

[still_one]

37. Then let me state it another way. Those who still approve of Trump obviously have no problem that

he expresses racist, exist, bigotry.

Cliven Bundy never considered himself a bigot

[Cosmocat]

16. Sadly

not incorrect.

[IronLionZion]

7. Those old people need to wise up

Our elderly will not fare when Scott cuts their Medicare and Social Security

[duforsure]

10. Why would anyone older,

Vote for Scott to help them destroy Social Security , which they've already started doing, along with all health care causing their premiums to skyrocket , if they're not kicked off from getting it altogether. Under Republicans drug prices always increase more, and under W it went up 400%.

[Hoyt]

28. But, bush did sign the first coverage of prescription drugs.

It’s not perfect, but better than anything we had before 2005.

Not saying GOPers are better than Dems on healthcare at all. But I think we need to know the truth.

Personally, I think Florida’s elderly GOPers are white wing racists who think minorities are the biggest threat to their SS and Medicare. Don’t know how we get past that crud.

[videohead5]

13. Use what the Rethugs have said

Against them...Paul Ryan and others have already said they want to cut Social Security and Medicare...the message should be how do you think they plan on paying for the huge tax cut that mostly went to the rich?

[kimbutgar]

18. Nelson should run on that the rethug dream is to do away with social security and medicare

Nelson needs to talk about expanding the fica cap and increase of payments to recipients. Put skelator on the spot in the debates about these benefits his party wants to eliminate.

The Democratic Party should Put up billboards and run ads on tv in those senior areas saying Skeletor wants to take away your social security and Medicare.

[YOHABLO]

20. You would think that the older set would be worried about their Social Security dwindling.

But then many of the 'older set' are well off in their retirement communities and don't really need Social Security.

[murielm99]

21. I do hope that

all displaced Puerto Ricans register in Florida and vote.

[awesomerwb1]

26. Knew this seat would be a problem

the moment that a-hole of Scott jumped in the race for that seat.

[Gothmog]

30. I spent a week in Florida at Walt Disney Word in April

Scott was on the air with horrible commercials about term limits. Term limits are not workable and only idiots such a deplorables would pay attention to this crap

[Olafjoy]

34. They're coming for your chemotherapy

Hello Florida Seniors who rely on Medicare!
The recent tax cut passed by republicans has massively increased the deficit. The budget needs to be cut-after the elections of course. Medicare is a huge expenditure and surely can be made more “efficient”. Wow that chemotherapy is expensive. The republicans may have great ideas like having the vast majority of newer chemo drugs classified as experimental so Medicare won’t have to pay for them. But hey, you have that tax cut money so you can pay for them yourself. Also, I’m sure the drug companies will lower the prices as dotard is asking. Maybe from $27,000 a month to $25,000 a month. So yeah, go ahead and vote for Scott. Also, start praying you never get cancer because you won’t be able to afford it.

[riversedge]

36. Sad to hear this.