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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:08 PM May 2018

Giuliani: I Don't Believe That Michael Cohen Was Wiretapped

Source: The Daily Beast

President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani said on Thursday he doubted the veracity of a bombshell NBC News report from earlier in the day that federal authorities wiretapped the president’s longtime counsel, Michael Cohen.

“Us lawyers have talked about it, we don’t believe it’s true,” Giuliani told The Daily Beast. “We think it’s going to turn out to be untrue because it would be totally illegal. You can’t wiretap a lawyer, you certainly can’t wiretap his client who’s not involved in the investigation. No one has suggested that Trump was involved in that investigation. So they’re going to wiretap the lawyer, his client, and his client the president of the United States? I don’t think so, not if they want to stay out of jail. Disclosing a wiretap is a federal felony. I never took ‘em home when I was a U.S. attorney.”

Giuliani said that he found out about the wiretap news from NBC News’ report, which cited “two people with knowledge of the legal proceedings,” and not from Cohen himself. He believed someone in the Justice Department was behind the leak.

“Nobody else would know about it,” Giuliani said. “Cohen didn’t know about it, so it has to be the FBI, the independent counsel, or the Justice Department.”

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuliani-i-dont-believe-that-michael-cohen-was-wiretapped?ref=wrap



Seriously, Giuliani can't be doing all these interviews without Trump's direct approval.
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Giuliani: I Don't Believe That Michael Cohen Was Wiretapped (Original Post) brooklynite May 2018 OP
Is there a competition to determine the most senile between Guiliani and trump? George II May 2018 #1
Wiretaps are for people engaging in criminal behavior. tinrobot May 2018 #2
He's denying there's a wiretap at the same time accusing the JD of leaking it. So which is it? nt Cognitive_Resonance May 2018 #3
Fake news or real leaks? Lordy, I hope there are tapes. lagomorph777 May 2018 #13
You CAN tap a lawyer for same reason you can get a warrant to search their places. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #4
Now he wants the "no wiretap" investigated. Which is it, Mr. Ego Genius Blabbermouth? Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #10
Earth to Huge-Ego Giuliani: It is "Special Counsel", NOT "independent counsel". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #5
Yeah, I'm Rudy Giuliani. Whatever. ffr May 2018 #17
Keep talking, dumb ass! fleur-de-lisa May 2018 #6
"I don't believe I have cancer." "I don't believe my wife is cheating on me." hatrack May 2018 #7
I don't believe in global warming. I don't believe we landed a man on the moon. ffr May 2018 #16
As a prosecutor, Giuliani made aggressive use of wiretaps and also subpoenaed lawyers onenote May 2018 #8
Welcome to the Orange Clown Paradox djacq May 2018 #9
Hey supporter of a sexual predator and traitor................the earth is not flat........... turbinetree May 2018 #11
RUDY MADE HIS CAREER WIRETAPPING MOB LAWYER FIXERS GusBob May 2018 #12
Interesting that he prosecuted Mobsters that Trump did business with csziggy May 2018 #18
This is the guy that brought down the Teflon Don? Maybe an incompetant Rudy WAS the feflon.... marble falls May 2018 #14
LMAO - maybe he's deep in dementia leftynyc May 2018 #15
"Us" lawyers? efhmc May 2018 #19

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Is there a competition to determine the most senile between Guiliani and trump?
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:12 PM
May 2018

My thinking it that it will be a dead heat.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
10. Now he wants the "no wiretap" investigated. Which is it, Mr. Ego Genius Blabbermouth?
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:26 PM
May 2018

A) No taps, no investigation possible.

B) Launch bogus investigation including targeting the warrant-judge because ... taps.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142051759

It's all about getting the Trumpanzees stirred up with falsities and invalid interpretations of law.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
7. "I don't believe I have cancer." "I don't believe my wife is cheating on me."
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:17 PM
May 2018

"I don't believe my son drove home drunk from prom last night."

'I don't believe my broker would give me bad advice."


Whatever gets you through the day . . .

ffr

(22,670 posts)
16. I don't believe in global warming. I don't believe we landed a man on the moon.
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:28 PM
May 2018

I don't believe...

onenote

(42,714 posts)
8. As a prosecutor, Giuliani made aggressive use of wiretaps and also subpoenaed lawyers
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

I guess his dementia has caused him to forget about that....

djacq

(1,634 posts)
9. Welcome to the Orange Clown Paradox
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:20 PM
May 2018

Trump
Cohen
Giuliani

Each one is a serial lier.
And, they change the story, that’s another lie.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
11. Hey supporter of a sexual predator and traitor................the earth is not flat...........
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:40 PM
May 2018

and I think you and your orange hair accomplice should find out what size suit you need to wear.............better yet you and your entire team need to get some serious help...........your idiots......................did you ever see any Soap episodes, here try this.............







csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. Interesting that he prosecuted Mobsters that Trump did business with
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:35 PM
May 2018
Mafia Commission trial & prosecution of the American Mob

In the Mafia Commission Trial (February 25, 1985 – November 19, 1986), Giuliani indicted eleven organized crime figures, including the heads of New York's so-called "Five Families", under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) on charges including extortion, labor racketeering, and murder for hire. Time magazine called this "Case of Cases" possibly "the most significant assault on the infrastructure of organized crime since the high command of the Chicago Mafia was swept away in 1943", and quoted Giuliani's stated intention: "Our approach is to wipe out the five families."[43] Eight defendants were found guilty on all counts and subsequently sentenced on January 13, 1987 to hundreds of years of prison time.[44][45]

According to an FBI memo revealed in 2007, leaders of the five New York mob families voted in late 1986 on whether to issue a contract for the death of U.S. attorney Rudolph Giuliani.[46] Heads of the Lucchese, Bonanno, and Genovese families rejected the idea, though Colombo and Gambino leaders, Carmine Persico and John Gotti encouraged assassination.[47][48] In 2014, it was revealed by former Sicilian Mafia member and informant, Rosario Naimo, that Salvatore Riina, a notorious Sicilian Mafia leader, had ordered a murder contract on Giuliani during the mid-1980s. Riina allegedly became suspicious of his efforts against prosecuting the American Mafia and was worried that Giuliani might have spoken with Italian anti-mafia prosecutors and politicians, including Giovanni Falcone, who would be murdered in 1992 by a car bombing. According to Giuliani, the Sicilian Mafia offered $800,000 for his death during his first year as Mayor of New York.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani#Mafia_Commission_trial_&_prosecution_of_the_American_Mob


REPUTED MOB LEADER AMONG 15 INDICTED ON RACKETEERING COUNTS
22 Mar 1986
By ARNOLD H. LUBASCH

<SNIP>

Rudolph W. Giuliani, the United States Attorney in Manhattan, announced the charges in a news conference at his office. He said the bid-rigging charged in the indictment had added many millions of dollars to the cost of major construction projects in Manhattan.

<SNIP>

Besides Mr. Halloran, the businessmen were identified as Nicholas Auletta, 53, of Pelham Manor, president of S & A Concrete Company; Alvin O. Chattin, 57, of Dix Hills, L.I., vice president of Transit-Mix, and Richard Costa, 49, of Scarsdale, an officer of Marathon Enterprises.

The four other defendants were identified as John Tronolone, 75, of Miami Beach, called a Cleveland crime-family member; Milton Rockman, 73, of Cleveland, an associate; Alphonse Mosca, 51, of Garden City, L.I., called a Gambino ''family'' member, and Neil Migliore, 52, of South Oyster Bay Cove, L.I., called a Lucchese crime group member. The four were also described as ''associates of the Genovese family.''

All the defendants, except Mr. Rockman, were charged with racketeering and other counts. Mr. Rockman was charged solely with fraud. The racketeering charge carries a maximum sentence of 20 years, with the other counts carrying sentences of 5 to 20 years.

Buildings where bid-rigging was said to have occurred, besides Trump Plaza, at 167 East 61st Street, included several other luxury apartment buildings and residences for Mount Sinai School of Medicine and Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, all in Manhattan.
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/22/nyregion/reputed-mob-leader-among-15-indicted-on-racketeering-counts.html


Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob?

I've spent years investigating, and here's what's known.


By DAVID CAY JOHNSTON

May 22, 2016

<SNIP>

There were other irregularities in Trump’s first big construction project. In 1979, when Trump hired a demolition contractor to take down the Bonwit Teller department store to make way for Trump Tower, he hired as many as 200 non-union men to work alongside about 15 members of the House Wreckers Union Local 95. The non-union workers were mostly illegal Polish immigrants paid $4 to $6 per hour with no benefits, far below the union contract. At least some of them did not use power tools but sledgehammers, working 12 hours a day or more and often seven days a week. Known as the “Polish brigade,” many didn’t wear hard hats. Many slept on the construction site.

Normally the use of nonunion workers at a union job site would have guaranteed a picket line. Not at this site, however. Work proceeded because the Genovese family principally controlled the union; this was demonstrated by extensive testimony, documents and convictions in federal trials, as well as a later report by the New York State Organized Crime Task Force.

When the Polish workers and a union dissident sued for their pay and benefits, Trump denied any knowledge that illegal workers without hard hats were taking down Bonwit with sledgehammers. The trial, however, demonstrated otherwise: Testimony showed that Trump panicked when the nonunion Polish men threatened a work stoppage because they had not been paid. Trump turned to Daniel Sullivan, a labor fixer and FBI informant, who told him to fire the Polish workers.

Trump knew the Polish brigade was composed of underpaid illegal immigrants and that S&A was a mob-owned firm, according to Sullivan and others. "Donald told me that he was having his difficulties and he admitted to me that — seeking my advice — that he had some illegal Polish employees on the job. I reacted by saying to Donald that 'I think you are nuts,'" Sullivan testified at the time. "I told him to fire them promptly if he had any brains." In an interview later, Sullivan told me the same thing.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
14. This is the guy that brought down the Teflon Don? Maybe an incompetant Rudy WAS the feflon....
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:13 PM
May 2018

that protected John Gotti, an unintended consequence.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. LMAO - maybe he's deep in dementia
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:21 PM
May 2018

to have forgotten this from HIS OWN CAREER:

The Princeton/Newport case wasn’t the only one of Giuliani’s high-profile convictions that was eventually overturned. After Giuliani left the US attorney’s post in 1987, four of his white-collar cases were quashed, a nigh-unprecedented string of reversals. “You cannot read the appellate decisions without being disturbed by the way some of these cases were prosecuted,” journalist James Traub wrote in an otherwise sympathetic account at the time. One such questionable tactic: wiretapping a suspect’s defense attorney.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/12/rudy-giuliani-trump-cabinet-secretary-state-mayor/

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