White supremacist is guilty in Charlottesville parking garage beating of black man
Source: The Washington Post
One of the white supremacists who viciously beat a black man inside a parking garage during last years Unite the Right rally here was found guilty Tuesday night of malicious wounding.
Jacob Scott Goodwin, 23, who wore a military tactical helmet and brandished a large shield during the Aug. 12 attack against DeAndre Harris, was convicted by a jury of nine women and three men.
The jury recommended a sentence of ten years, with the option of suspending some of the time and a $20,000 fine. The presiding judge, Richard E. Moore, will set the sentence on Aug. 23. When the court clerk read the jurys recommendation, Goodwins mother let out a loud gasp.
The assault on Harris, 20, a former special education instructional assistant, was so ferocious that he suffered a spinal injury, a broken arm and head lacerations that required eight staples.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/white-supremacist-is-guilty-in-charlottesville-parking-garage-beating-of-black-man/2018/05/01/033396b4-4af9-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html
irisblue
(32,980 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)starting almost right away, from his Twitter account to identify the attacker (and others), and this guy was fingered and finally arrested.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)and there are others like them, so assumptions of that nature are not valid.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)and making blanket assumptions about people we don't know -- That's what Right Wingers do
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-trump-adviser-stephen-miller-divided-a-santa-monica-synagogue-989250
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Could be true, but more than one have said otherwise...In any case, it's patently unfair to automatically demonize relatives and friends of wing nuts as "being the same"..I actually saw people on the internet calling Bill Cosby's wife an "enabler" and I fought them too.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)Odd that you don't want to look up something you are so adamant about.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Lol..I don't know how the words "Maybe we should check more than one source" fits anyone"s definition of "so adamant" but whatever.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)if and when you check other sources...My suggestion DID include the word "we".
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)I already looked it up and found a credible source. Your turn. You are the one who made the assertion, so you are responsible for backing it up. That's usually how it works around here. We are a fact-based community.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)...speaking of being "fact based".
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)When what I was stating was accurate.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)but if you want to call the whaaaambulance, I can wait.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)unless your literacy level is such you think "ambulalance" is spelled with a W.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)All this time you've spent trying to insult me would have been better spent researching so you knew what you were talking about. Your attempt at a zinger is as weak as your grasp of the facts in this thread.
This thread is about a Nazi thug who nearly beat a black man to death, and you jumped in to object to any suggestion that his mother is racist. As you can see from what others have posted below, she is every bit the same piece of shit he is.
But you reserve your insults not for them but for someone pointing out what racist scum they are, calling me unfair, and now, illiterate.
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SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)You insist that suggesting she is probably racist is "guilt by association," but ignore that facts and statistics, refusing to research the correlation (and causation) of racism in children.
Then there is the actual facts of this case. What part of her calling her son a "Political Prisoner" is not racist?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Never defended "her"personally, just the right to be "presumed innocent until proven guilty"
The photo of the mother wearing her "political prisoner" T shirt hadv not yet been posted and our posts time stamp proves it. Try harder.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)If you had done ANY research, you would have seen that her being racist is a fair assumption, based on statistics alone.
And it was certainly a safe bet in this case. Yup, that's her at 20:40 in the video doing a Nazi salute and shouting "Hail Victory" at a Nazi meeting.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)since you dislike that "innocent til proven guilty thing" and no, it wasn't a "safe bet" until you saw the picture, and then it was no longer a "bet".
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)I did not see that video about her until after I made my initial statement. The video was posted in this thread after I made my post. Look at the time stamps.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)Interestingly, much more so than their fathers.
http://psychiatryfun.blogspot.de/2007/11/do-children-acquire-racism-from-their.html
whathehell
(29,067 posts)including kindness and compassion, because they're the usual caregivers.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Oddly enough, you make a blanket assumption to justify your stance against blanket assumptions.
I get it however... holding others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to is delicious entertainment.
(rationalize distinction lacking relevant difference below...)
George II
(67,782 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)If anything they are more culpable than he is. They cultivated his hate from a young age. You'd be hard pressed to find bigger shitstains.
George II
(67,782 posts)SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)Sick.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)She is completely oblivious to the reality she has culpability for her sons actions.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)RockRaven
(14,974 posts)if she gasped when she saw what her son did to Mr. Harris.
If not, I'm all outta f*cks for her gasps.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)from dear old mom and dad.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)In my family, our parents are Kennedy Democrats.
Oldest sister and her husband are Eisenhower Republicans. Her husband is a Marine veteran who was on embassy duty. (He still cant understand how the Tehran embassy staff was held hostage; he got sent there after Saigon fell and knew all the escape routes.)
Middle sister is somewhere between Clinton and Obama in her politics. Her husbands family cared nothing for politics and he still doesnt, but he cant stand Trump.
Then there is me, and you know me.
Brother is next, but will be handled last.
Little sister and her husband were radicalized in college. Imagine your standard hard-left bomb thrower, and youre close. She stopped eating bananas to protest the exploitation of the workers. Donates lots to Planned Parenthood. Eats meat and cant stand PETA, but runs a house of wayward kittens for a no-kill shelter in Houston. After the last hurricane, she ran a house of wayward co-workers for three weeks because she has a 15k natural gas generator and they didnt have power.
And then there is brother. The only reason he hasnt joined the fucking Klan is hes never home when the meetings are. Hes like a Tasmanian Devil of hate...remember the old Warner Bros cartoon where Bugs is reading the Tasmanian travel guide and gets to the page that starts Beware the Tasmanian Devil, a vicious brute with powerful jaws like a steel trap and then goes into a very long list of all the things it eats? They could write one like that about my dickhead brother, and no one knows how he got that way...but I suspect he fell in with some skinhead-types at Camp Pendleton and was fucked up there. If I were to transcribe some of the conversations hes had with my middle sister Id be tombstoned from here for racist thoughts so Ill spare you. Three of us wont let him in the house. Young sister bought a house in a gated community that doesnt allow trucks in so he couldnt possibly visit. And mom still is in denial about how bad hes gotten, but middle sister and I are trying to educate her. (The fact that hes threatened to beat all of us up for insufficient love of Donald Trump is the least of his problems.)
Fun anecdote...the family (minus dickhead brother) were kidding around about what wed do if we won some massively huge lottery...I explained my plan for national domination through commerce. Then I mentioned Id need to start a trucking line but wouldnt hire brother. Why not? Asks mother. Because I have no interest in getting a call from the New Jersey State Police to come pick up my truck because your driver is in jail for murdering some random black guy who pissed him off.
Real true story: the trucking line he was working for at the time asked him to pick up a driver at a truck dealership where his broken-down rig was and take him and all his stuff to their yard to get a new truck. When he discovered the driver was this nice young African-American kid who didnt smoke, brother broke out the most redneck country tapes he had and chain-smoked for the three hours this poor guy was in the cab. And he was proud as hell for having done it!
I do not automatically believe his mom brought him up to be a racist. I dont discount it either.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)My family was blue collar just squeaking by back in the 60's till Pops hit the road for another man's wife then the hard times really hit home.
But Mom and Dad never taught us to hate anyone of any race and that's the way we are today.
I do have one sister and her family that are Trump voters. Most Trump voters are white supremacists so I don't see how she supports that asswipe.
George II
(67,782 posts)He won't be able to have that helmet and shield to fend off his cellmate.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)What a fucking evil scumbag.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Throw the book at him!!!!!! Excellent news.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Harsh penalties are going to prove to be largely ineffectual just as they are with pretty much all other forms of criminality. There's already an enormous support network that has turned this shitstain in to a hero martyr.
This type of garbage needs to be addressed on multiple fronts.
AllyCat
(16,189 posts)Good news for a bad reason.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)I'd have voted for public humiliation in stocks along with the 10 years/$20K, but then, I'm mean.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Glad justice was brought to this piece of shit. Now...if we can just administer the same kind of justice when the thug wears a badge. Murder is murder...assault is assault. Badge or no badge.
Yes, what he said.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)put on trial, and eventually acquitted, while this trash went scott free and was on the run until he was finally found. Lock him up!
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)His actions maimed someone for life. Those wounds heal but they will always be there, and will involve some degree of pain
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)He ruined that poor guys health, he should pay for the pain and suffering he imposed on an innocent man.
safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)make him take a DNA test
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Yonnie3
(17,444 posts)Alex Ramos will face a jury in Charlottesville today. I will post information in the Virginia group as I did yesterday.
There will be two more trials this summer in relation to this assault.
James Alex Fields' murder trial is scheduled for late November.
There are also multiple civil suits against militias and individuals in relation to the events of August 11 and 12 in Charlottesville and Albemarle County.
In Charlottesville, it continues ...
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Good to see some nazi cockroaches get their comeuppance. It scares the rest of the freaks, makes them think twice before throwing any more big high profile nazi jamborees.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)prosecutor who accepted the charges against, and prosecuted, the viciously-beaten victim, is sufficiently chastened. Actually, he should have been fired.
Yonnie3
(17,444 posts)This makes the cases stronger against the real attackers,
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)I'd like to see that prosecutor disciplined.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)Nice to see republicon nazi thugs going to prison.
RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)wait for the sentencing hearing before I celebrate this as a victory.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)We need prosecutors to find a way to charge as many of the Alt-right assholes as possible. Preferably on any kind of Felony charge possible as It makes firearm ownership illegal for them for life.
Taking away their ability to own guns hurts some of these racist worse than prison. It removes what defines them.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Nazi POS!
Your god emperor Trump sends his thoughts and prayers asshole!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Hope he spends lots of time in a very fine prison.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It's a wonder the poor man was not killed in this vicious gang attack
Grins
(7,218 posts)15 Aug 2017:
Reporter: You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are there...
President Dennison...uh, I mean Trump: Well, I do think there's blame ...I think there's blame on both sides...you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Harris was arrested and jailed before Goodwin was.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)Danascot
(4,690 posts)The article later says,
"Three other men have been also been arrested in connection to the attack on charges ranging from felonious assault to malicious wounding: Alex Michael Ramos of Georgia, whose trial began Wednesday; and Daniel Borden of Ohio and Tyler Watkins Davis of Florida, who face trials this summer."
There will be two more trials this summer in relation to this assault. June 5 is the next trial
James Alex Fields' murder trial is scheduled for late November.
There are also multiple civil suits against militias and individuals in relation to the events of August 11 and 12 in Charlottesville and Albemarle County.