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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:37 PM May 2018

White supremacist is guilty in Charlottesville parking garage beating of black man

Source: The Washington Post

One of the white supremacists who viciously beat a black man inside a parking garage during last year’s “Unite the Right” rally here was found guilty Tuesday night of malicious wounding.

Jacob Scott Goodwin, 23, who wore a military tactical helmet and brandished a large shield during the Aug. 12 attack against DeAndre Harris, was convicted by a jury of nine women and three men.

The jury recommended a sentence of ten years, with the option of suspending some of the time and a $20,000 fine. The presiding judge, Richard E. Moore, will set the sentence on Aug. 23. When the court clerk read the jury’s recommendation, Goodwin’s mother let out a loud gasp.

The assault on Harris, 20, a former special education instructional assistant, was so ferocious that he suffered a spinal injury, a broken arm and head lacerations that required eight staples.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/white-supremacist-is-guilty-in-charlottesville-parking-garage-beating-of-black-man/2018/05/01/033396b4-4af9-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html

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White supremacist is guilty in Charlottesville parking garage beating of black man (Original Post) Julian Englis May 2018 OP
Excellent irisblue May 2018 #1
+1 iluvtennis May 2018 #8
Shaun King is responsible -- he mounted a campaign RandomAccess May 2018 #64
Hallelujah! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #2
Look At You Now Stupid Fuck... Grassy Knoll May 2018 #3
Did his mom know her son had turned into a Nazi? jmowreader May 2018 #4
It's a safe bet she is a racist as well. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #5
No iit's not -- .Trump aide Stephen Miller's parents are California Liberals whathehell May 2018 #31
Wrong. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #37
Maybe, but fairness demands we refrain from broad-brushing whathehell May 2018 #38
OFFS. I looked it up and the Millers were CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS. SunSeeker May 2018 #39
That's a first..Maybe we need to check more than one source whathehell May 2018 #40
How about you look it up instead of accusing me of being unfair? nr SunSeeker May 2018 #41
How 'bout you just put me on Ignore if you whathehell May 2018 #42
I don't have anyone on Ignore. I don't ignore facts either. SunSeeker May 2018 #43
Let me be your first! whathehell May 2018 #45
Seriously, why don't you look up the Millers? SunSeeker May 2018 #46
Seriously, I'll be happy to do that whathehell May 2018 #47
Odd that you were willing to insult a fellow DUer as "unfair" before checking your Miller assertion. SunSeeker May 2018 #48
Where did I "insult a fellow DUer"? whathehell May 2018 #58
You accused me of being "unfair." SunSeeker May 2018 #65
I said "it" was unfair whathehell May 2018 #68
LOL. You're twisting so much it appears you're the one who need an ambulance. SunSeeker May 2018 #69
LOL..You don't even get the reference! whathehell May 2018 #70
I got your lame reference, and your attempt to twist out of your insult of me. SunSeeker May 2018 #71
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #72
Wow, so you're still defending this racist thug's racist mom? SunSeeker May 2018 #73
Nice try..a little desperate but I expected that whathehell May 2018 #74
No, you wrongly claimed it was "unfair" of me to suggest she was probably racist. SunSeeker May 2018 #75
Lol...Let's hope you never serve on a jury. whathehell May 2018 #76
Wrong again. I made my prediction about her racism knowing the statistics. SunSeeker May 2018 #77
How about I don't? whathehell May 2018 #57
BTW, research indicates children's racism is strongly correlated to their mothers. SunSeeker May 2018 #52
Children get more of EVERYTHING from their mothers. whathehell May 2018 #60
Oddly enough, you make a blanket assumption to justify your stance against blanket assumptions. LanternWaste May 2018 #54
She probably trained him. George II May 2018 #7
No probably about it. His parents should be in a cell also. Major Nikon May 2018 #49
Good catch, thanks. George II May 2018 #51
Ug. She's wearing a shirt that says her thug son is a "Political Prisoner." SunSeeker May 2018 #53
That's some hard core assholery right there Major Nikon May 2018 #66
At 20:40 in the video, she does the Nazi salute and shouts "Hail Victory!" SunSeeker May 2018 #78
I'd like to know RockRaven May 2018 #11
They usually are taught to hate at home workinclasszero May 2018 #30
Usually, but not always jmowreader May 2018 #55
Sure there are always exceptions I guess workinclasszero May 2018 #56
Great. I wouldn't want to be him in a Virginia prison for one day, much less ten years. George II May 2018 #6
Good. He's lucky he didn't get convicted of attempted murder. SunSeeker May 2018 #9
Harsh penalties is the only way to deter these asshats. secondwind May 2018 #10
I don't agree Major Nikon May 2018 #50
File it under no $hit Sherlock. AllyCat May 2018 #12
Thanks for letting us know, Julian - this really feels like a great victory. raven mad May 2018 #13
As long as he's NOT a cop...there's a chance for justice. Hulk May 2018 #14
... safeinOhio May 2018 #18
Good. I will NOT forget that the victim who was brutalized, was himself arrested BumRushDaShow May 2018 #15
Good rusty quoin May 2018 #16
Civil suit should follow bucolic_frolic May 2018 #17
Totally agree workinclasszero May 2018 #29
Just for fun safeinOhio May 2018 #19
K&R demmiblue May 2018 #20
The second trial in this assault begins today in Charlottesville. Yonnie3 May 2018 #21
Thanks, Y3, and Julian for the OP. Mc Mike May 2018 #22
I hope the same fucking idiot liberalhistorian May 2018 #59
I think it was good that he could clear his name. Yonnie3 May 2018 #62
I agree completely, but liberalhistorian May 2018 #63
If there was ever a case of abuse of prosecutorial discretion, that was it. SunSeeker May 2018 #67
Good RandiFan1290 May 2018 #23
* at a trump nazi rally. nt RandiFan1290 May 2018 #24
I will heaven05 May 2018 #25
Excellent news and good for the jury. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #26
Awesome. One less Trump voter. n/t FSogol May 2018 #27
Rot in prison where you belong workinclasszero May 2018 #28
Very fine person. lagomorph777 May 2018 #32
Here is the assault the nazi POS is going to jail for workinclasszero May 2018 #33
But...but...but... there "were very fine people on both sides"! Grins May 2018 #34
Adding insult to injury, the nazis sued the victim, claiming he had attacked them first. Nitram May 2018 #35
Those fucking Nazis should all have been charged with filing a false police report. SunSeeker May 2018 #44
I wondered about the other attackers Danascot May 2018 #36
Info Yonnie3 May 2018 #61
 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
64. Shaun King is responsible -- he mounted a campaign
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:50 PM
May 2018

starting almost right away, from his Twitter account to identify the attacker (and others), and this guy was fingered and finally arrested.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. No iit's not -- .Trump aide Stephen Miller's parents are California Liberals
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:31 AM
May 2018

and there are others like them, so assumptions of that nature are not valid.


whathehell

(29,067 posts)
38. Maybe, but fairness demands we refrain from broad-brushing
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:58 AM
May 2018

and making blanket assumptions about people we don't know -- That's what Right Wingers do

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
39. OFFS. I looked it up and the Millers were CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:02 AM
May 2018
Although recent media reports have suggested that Miller's parents were liberals typical of the progressive enclave of Santa Monica, members of the Jewish community insist otherwise. Steven Windmueller, a professor of Jewish Communal Service at the Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion who has known the Millers for many years ("a lovely couple" ), says their political leanings align closely with their son's. "They have been and are conservative Republicans," he says. One person acquainted with the Millers says they departed the Santa Monica Synagogue when it became clear they "weren't a good fit" with its reform-minded congregation.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-trump-adviser-stephen-miller-divided-a-santa-monica-synagogue-989250

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
40. That's a first..Maybe we need to check more than one source
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:10 AM
May 2018

Could be true, but more than one have said otherwise...In any case, it's patently unfair to automatically demonize relatives and friends of wing nuts as "being the same"..I actually saw people on the internet calling Bill Cosby's wife an "enabler" and I fought them too.

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
43. I don't have anyone on Ignore. I don't ignore facts either.
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

Odd that you don't want to look up something you are so adamant about.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
45. Let me be your first!
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:30 PM
May 2018

Lol..I don't know how the words "Maybe we should check more than one source" fits anyone"s definition of "so adamant" but whatever.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
47. Seriously, I'll be happy to do that
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:34 PM
May 2018

if and when you check other sources...My suggestion DID include the word "we".



SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
48. Odd that you were willing to insult a fellow DUer as "unfair" before checking your Miller assertion.
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:40 PM
May 2018

I already looked it up and found a credible source. Your turn. You are the one who made the assertion, so you are responsible for backing it up. That's usually how it works around here. We are a fact-based community.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
70. LOL..You don't even get the reference!
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:29 PM
May 2018

unless your literacy level is such you think "ambulalance" is spelled with a W.

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
71. I got your lame reference, and your attempt to twist out of your insult of me.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:01 PM
May 2018

All this time you've spent trying to insult me would have been better spent researching so you knew what you were talking about. Your attempt at a zinger is as weak as your grasp of the facts in this thread.

This thread is about a Nazi thug who nearly beat a black man to death, and you jumped in to object to any suggestion that his mother is racist. As you can see from what others have posted below, she is every bit the same piece of shit he is.

But you reserve your insults not for them but for someone pointing out what racist scum they are, calling me unfair, and now, illiterate.









Response to SunSeeker (Reply #71)

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
73. Wow, so you're still defending this racist thug's racist mom?
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:41 PM
May 2018

You insist that suggesting she is probably racist is "guilt by association," but ignore that facts and statistics, refusing to research the correlation (and causation) of racism in children.

Then there is the actual facts of this case. What part of her calling her son a "Political Prisoner" is not racist?

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
74. Nice try..a little desperate but I expected that
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

Never defended "her"personally, just the right to be "presumed innocent until proven guilty"

The photo of the mother wearing her "political prisoner" T shirt hadv not yet been posted and our posts time stamp proves it. Try harder.

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
75. No, you wrongly claimed it was "unfair" of me to suggest she was probably racist.
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:15 PM
May 2018

If you had done ANY research, you would have seen that her being racist is a fair assumption, based on statistics alone.

And it was certainly a safe bet in this case. Yup, that's her at 20:40 in the video doing a Nazi salute and shouting "Hail Victory" at a Nazi meeting.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
76. Lol...Let's hope you never serve on a jury.
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:23 PM
May 2018

since you dislike that "innocent til proven guilty thing" and no, it wasn't a "safe bet" until you saw the picture, and then it was no longer a "bet".

SunSeeker

(51,572 posts)
77. Wrong again. I made my prediction about her racism knowing the statistics.
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:31 PM
May 2018

I did not see that video about her until after I made my initial statement. The video was posted in this thread after I made my post. Look at the time stamps.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
60. Children get more of EVERYTHING from their mothers.
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:20 PM
May 2018

including kindness and compassion, because they're the usual caregivers.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
54. Oddly enough, you make a blanket assumption to justify your stance against blanket assumptions.
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:26 PM
May 2018

Oddly enough, you make a blanket assumption to justify your stance against blanket assumptions.

I get it however... holding others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to is delicious entertainment.

(rationalize distinction lacking relevant difference below...)

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
49. No probably about it. His parents should be in a cell also.
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:57 PM
May 2018

If anything they are more culpable than he is. They cultivated his hate from a young age. You'd be hard pressed to find bigger shitstains.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
66. That's some hard core assholery right there
Wed May 2, 2018, 05:27 PM
May 2018

She is completely oblivious to the reality she has culpability for her son’s actions.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
11. I'd like to know
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:43 AM
May 2018

if she gasped when she saw what her son did to Mr. Harris.

If not, I'm all outta f*cks for her gasps.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
55. Usually, but not always
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

In my family, our parents are Kennedy Democrats.

Oldest sister and her husband are Eisenhower Republicans. Her husband is a Marine veteran who was on embassy duty. (He still can’t understand how the Tehran embassy staff was held hostage; he got sent there after Saigon fell and knew all the escape routes.)

Middle sister is somewhere between Clinton and Obama in her politics. Her husband’s family cared nothing for politics and he still doesn’t, but he can’t stand Trump.

Then there is me, and you know me.

Brother is next, but will be handled last.

Little sister and her husband were radicalized in college. Imagine your standard hard-left bomb thrower, and you’re close. She stopped eating bananas to protest the exploitation of the workers. Donates lots to Planned Parenthood. Eats meat and can’t stand PETA, but runs a house of wayward kittens for a no-kill shelter in Houston. After the last hurricane, she ran a house of wayward co-workers for three weeks because she has a 15k natural gas generator and they didn’t have power.

And then there is brother. The only reason he hasn’t joined the fucking Klan is he’s never home when the meetings are. He’s like a Tasmanian Devil of hate...remember the old Warner Bros cartoon where Bugs is reading the Tasmanian travel guide and gets to the page that starts “Beware the Tasmanian Devil, a vicious brute with powerful jaws like a steel trap” and then goes into a very long list of all the things it eats? They could write one like that about my dickhead brother, and no one knows how he got that way...but I suspect he fell in with some skinhead-types at Camp Pendleton and was fucked up there. If I were to transcribe some of the conversations he’s had with my middle sister I’d be tombstoned from here for racist thoughts so I’ll spare you. Three of us won’t let him in the house. Young sister bought a house in a gated community that doesn’t allow trucks in so he couldn’t possibly visit. And mom still is in denial about how bad he’s gotten, but middle sister and I are trying to educate her. (The fact that he’s threatened to beat all of us up for insufficient love of Donald Trump is the least of his problems.)

Fun anecdote...the family (minus dickhead brother) were kidding around about what we’d do if we won some massively huge lottery...I explained my plan for national domination through commerce. Then I mentioned I’d need to start a trucking line but wouldn’t hire brother. “Why not?” Asks mother. “Because I have no interest in getting a call from the New Jersey State Police to come pick up my truck because your driver is in jail for murdering some random black guy who pissed him off.”

Real true story: the trucking line he was working for at the time asked him to pick up a driver at a truck dealership where his broken-down rig was and take him and all his stuff to their yard to get a new truck. When he discovered the driver was this nice young African-American kid who didn’t smoke, brother broke out the most redneck country tapes he had and chain-smoked for the three hours this poor guy was in the cab. And he was proud as hell for having done it!

I do not automatically believe his mom brought him up to be a racist. I don’t discount it either.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
56. Sure there are always exceptions I guess
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:32 PM
May 2018

My family was blue collar just squeaking by back in the 60's till Pops hit the road for another man's wife then the hard times really hit home.

But Mom and Dad never taught us to hate anyone of any race and that's the way we are today.

I do have one sister and her family that are Trump voters. Most Trump voters are white supremacists so I don't see how she supports that asswipe.


George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Great. I wouldn't want to be him in a Virginia prison for one day, much less ten years.
Wed May 2, 2018, 12:16 AM
May 2018

He won't be able to have that helmet and shield to fend off his cellmate.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
50. I don't agree
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:01 PM
May 2018

Harsh penalties are going to prove to be largely ineffectual just as they are with pretty much all other forms of criminality. There's already an enormous support network that has turned this shitstain in to a hero martyr.

This type of garbage needs to be addressed on multiple fronts.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
13. Thanks for letting us know, Julian - this really feels like a great victory.
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:55 AM
May 2018

I'd have voted for public humiliation in stocks along with the 10 years/$20K, but then, I'm mean.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
14. As long as he's NOT a cop...there's a chance for justice.
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:22 AM
May 2018

Glad justice was brought to this piece of shit. Now...if we can just administer the same kind of justice when the thug wears a badge. Murder is murder...assault is assault. Badge or no badge.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
15. Good. I will NOT forget that the victim who was brutalized, was himself arrested
Wed May 2, 2018, 05:34 AM
May 2018

put on trial, and eventually acquitted, while this trash went scott free and was on the run until he was finally found. Lock him up!

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
17. Civil suit should follow
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:19 AM
May 2018

His actions maimed someone for life. Those wounds heal but they will always be there, and will involve some degree of pain

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
29. Totally agree
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:02 AM
May 2018

He ruined that poor guys health, he should pay for the pain and suffering he imposed on an innocent man.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
21. The second trial in this assault begins today in Charlottesville.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:37 AM
May 2018

Alex Ramos will face a jury in Charlottesville today. I will post information in the Virginia group as I did yesterday.

There will be two more trials this summer in relation to this assault.

James Alex Fields' murder trial is scheduled for late November.

There are also multiple civil suits against militias and individuals in relation to the events of August 11 and 12 in Charlottesville and Albemarle County.

In Charlottesville, it continues ...

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
22. Thanks, Y3, and Julian for the OP.
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:30 AM
May 2018

Good to see some nazi cockroaches get their comeuppance. It scares the rest of the freaks, makes them think twice before throwing any more big high profile nazi jamborees.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
59. I hope the same fucking idiot
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:18 PM
May 2018

prosecutor who accepted the charges against, and prosecuted, the viciously-beaten victim, is sufficiently chastened. Actually, he should have been fired.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
62. I think it was good that he could clear his name.
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:12 PM
May 2018

This makes the cases stronger against the real attackers,

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
26. Excellent news and good for the jury.
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:59 AM
May 2018

We need prosecutors to find a way to charge as many of the Alt-right assholes as possible. Preferably on any kind of Felony charge possible as It makes firearm ownership illegal for them for life.

Taking away their ability to own guns hurts some of these racist worse than prison. It removes what defines them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
33. Here is the assault the nazi POS is going to jail for
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:00 AM
May 2018

It's a wonder the poor man was not killed in this vicious gang attack

Grins

(7,218 posts)
34. But...but...but... there "were very fine people on both sides"!
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:06 AM
May 2018

15 Aug 2017:

Reporter: You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are there...

President Dennison...uh, I mean Trump: Well, I do think there's blame ...I think there's blame on both sides...you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
35. Adding insult to injury, the nazis sued the victim, claiming he had attacked them first.
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:06 AM
May 2018

Harris was arrested and jailed before Goodwin was.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
36. I wondered about the other attackers
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:24 AM
May 2018

The article later says,

"Three other men have been also been arrested in connection to the attack on charges ranging from felonious assault to malicious wounding: Alex Michael Ramos of Georgia, whose trial began Wednesday; and Daniel Borden of Ohio and Tyler Watkins Davis of Florida, who face trials this summer."

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
61. Info
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:11 PM
May 2018

There will be two more trials this summer in relation to this assault. June 5 is the next trial

James Alex Fields' murder trial is scheduled for late November.

There are also multiple civil suits against militias and individuals in relation to the events of August 11 and 12 in Charlottesville and Albemarle County.

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