Former George W. Bush ethics lawyer ditches GOP, to seek U.S. Senate in Minn. as Democrat
Source: star tribune
Richard Painter will take on Tina Smith, who holds the seat now as Al Franken's successor.
By Paul Walsh Star Tribune
April 30, 2018 8:27am
Richard Painter, a longtime Republican who was chief ethics lawyer for George W. Bushs White House, intends to run for the U.S. Senate in Minnesota this year as a Democrat, according to a filing he made recently with federal elections officials.
Painter, a persistent and frequent critic of President Donald Trump on national cable TV news appearances and on Twitter, is expected to announce his candidacy at a Monday news conference.
Hes running for Democrat Al Frankens former seat. Franken resigned Jan. 2 in the wake of numerous sexual harassment allegations.
Gov. Mark Dayton appointed Lt. Gov. Tina Smith to be his successor. That seat is up this fall in a special election, and Smith has said she intends to run for the right to finish the term through 2020.
Minnesotas other Senate seat, held by Democrat Amy Klobuchar, is also up this fall, although she is widely expected to win another term.
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louis c
(8,652 posts)Why doesn't he look for a House District occupied by a Trump sycophant and take him or her on. By law, you don't have to be a resident of the district to run, so he can choose the one he thinks fits his agenda.
If he wins, then he needs to move into the district, if he already doesn't live there.
That's my advice.
dicksmc3
(262 posts)I agree I was just talking to my wife about why Painter is going to run against Tina Smith for the Senate seat. She agrees with you and I that Painter should pick a congressional seat and run against some asshole repub. I just watched Steve Kornacki interview Painter and I must say Kornacki is really an ass!! He kept asking Painter if he thought that 8 women were lying about Franken, to which Painter wasn't really given a chance for a rebuttal cause Kornacki kept hounding him with that question. Finally, Painter got to say what he thought which is what I've been saying since Al left, he should've gotten an ETHICS Hearing right away to prove his innocence.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Some in Congress will flip over also to side with the Democrats , and stop being on the wrong side of everything, especially with trump, and Richard is doing the right thing, and many others will follow him. the real republicans that are still Americans will do the same.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)I'll have a hard time trusting any of them.
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)If Franken hadn't been railroaded, we wouldn't be having this problem and we would still have a strong voice, and a strong, good Senator.
Sigh. Why do we always seems to shoot ourselves in the foot?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)jalan48
(13,878 posts)not only voted for Bush/Cheney but actually served in their Administration? I'm sure we can do better.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)But he's still a republican at heart.
I hope the TRUE Democrat defeats him.
Don't be fooled. Painter despises Dump but that doesn't mean he won't vote in line with republicans down the road.
DO NOT TRUST ANY REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN. EVER.
bucolic_frolic
(43,249 posts)I don't follow him closely, but did think a few times he was espousing mainstream Republican positions.
I don't think he's a serious candidate, especially if he's changing parties.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Exactly right.
I've had a couple disagreements with him on Twitter over some of those positions.
We need to vote true Dems in unless under extremely special circumstances.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)than oppose Trump; he'll have to accept the party platform. All of it. If he can't or won't do that he won't survive a primary or get the party endorsement. Al Franken is supporting Tina Smith, his replacement. Painter will need to prove he's really a Democrat and not just a Trump-hater - although I do appreciate his spirited commentary on TV. Maybe that's where he can do the most good.
S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)Vote for a real Democrat, not a Democrat In Name Only.
BTW, Wolverine fan here.
a kennedy
(29,694 posts)a Gopher is from MN.......NOT a Badger.
S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)I did indeed screw that one up. My apologies to every Minnesotan.
Avis
(150 posts)I really liked it when he defended MN as not flyover country: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6h8h3b
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)NOMOGOP
(87 posts)Sounds like Painter was busier than a one legged man in an ass kickin' contest for those 8 years. Though Trump does make "W" seem competent it should not be forgotten the ENORMOUS damage "W" did to this country. From inheriting a $250B/yr SURPLUS to a $1.5T DEFICIT w/economy losing a MILLION jobs a month and teetering on the brink of global economic collapse. It is BREATHTAKING the damage he was able to do in 8 years. Oh yeah, he didn't win either election either. Stole Florida in '00 (Jeb/Kathryn Harris) and Ohio in
'04(Ken Blackwell). Hard to quantify the damage.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)While I am skeptical of Mr. Painter's "Democratic" bona fides, I can't very well hold him responsible for all the bad shit Bush did. He worked there for only 2 years toward the end of Bush's second term, and who knows? Maybe he kept things from being even worse. The president's ethics office has little power; it's only an advisor.
Shipwack
(2,170 posts)Wait...
Not just no, but fuck no.
If he feels that strongly, he should stay in his party and fight to change it, or become an independent.
I hope the state Democratic Party isnt planning on welcoming him with open arms.
S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)The Bush administration had no one holding their feet to the fire when it came to being ethical.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)They don't have a fire to hold anybody's feet to, unfortunately.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)and split the vote, possibly causing a GOP win. Chances are very good that Tina Smith, the incumbent who was selected to replace Franken, will win the primary because she has the support of the state party (and Al Franken). The only declared GOP candidate is some dingbat real estate agent and state legislator from the suburbs who's married to a famous hockey player, but she'll have the party's support over a Never-Trumper. I'm sure the state GOP won't touch Painter after he trashed Trump on TV for months.
Shipwack
(2,170 posts)Maybe that is their plan after all?
a kennedy
(29,694 posts)progressive voices in the senate.....and now Painter is straight middle of the road??? No, double no, and hell no. Ugh.....we dont need a middle of the road Dem in name only taking over Senator Frankens seat.
packman
(16,296 posts)They are either nothing more than weather vanes that spin in the direction of the prevailing winds, or - worse - Trojan Horse candidates who will crawl out of their deceptions and still be who they are at heart.
How many of these people will run as Democrats instead of fighting the scourge of trump? People need to be aware that maybe they don't believe as most Democrats do. Maybe they just don't want to be connected to trump anymore but aren't brave enough to stand and fight his disgusting actions.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)ANYTHING.
dajoki
(10,678 posts)I will support a real Democrat. Although there should be many more r's that stand up for the truth.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Richard is exactly what we need to expand our party's base! It is phony purists like Sarah Sarandon who cost us the last election and thrust the cretin Trump upon us. Richard has proven himself as a commentator on MSNBC and brings unparalleled assets: Summa from Harvard, JD from Yale, and administration experience. Let's broaden our party, not narrow our focus, which is a recipe for permanent minority status.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)Guess what, the real Democrat in the race also hates TraitorTrump.
Vote for a real Democrat instead of a DINO.
Our Party already has enough right-of-center Democrats who are screwing us over.
We don't need this one added to the pile.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)to make him a true Dem. I would be interested to know his voting record----not just what he now spouts because it may advantage him. It's too bad we can't trust him, but his RECORD is what counts, stuff he already has done for the public good. Words are just words when it comes to ReTHugs.
Jedi Guy
(3,244 posts)Really? I suppose I should leave DU, then. I come from a family of Republicans and I was one until my mid-20s. I like to think that I grew as a person and changed my thinking and politics as a result.
It is possible for people to grow and change. We're not condemned to forever be what we are now, you know. I and several of my friends left the GOP and became members of the Democratic Party, and we believe in what the Party stands for.
If I chose to run for office, would you hold against me the fact that I voted for W once upon a time?
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)it should be. Promises for in the future don't count. And if you don't have a record, get one before running for an office.
Jedi Guy
(3,244 posts)If I ran for, say, state legislature as a Democrat, and you found out that 18 years ago I voted Republican, would that be the nail in the coffin?
Folks running for lower offices may not have the kind of record you're looking for. Is a single vote for a Republican the kiss of death? If so, that strikes me as an unrealistic expectation for absolute purity.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)state legislature. You don't have a qualifying record for much of anything much less for state legislature. Look at 45 and tell me one thing he ever did for society in over 70 years.
Jedi Guy
(3,244 posts)I voted for W once and voted Democratic thereafter. I like to think I came to my senses.
And I don't think it's unreasonable to start with a state legislature run. Plenty of politicians start there and work up to gubernatorial runs, and then onto national offices.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)not take for granted what people promise. The only way to judge people should be to see what they have done already to help society. The higher the position, the longer the resume should be. There are many lower positions someone could be in before trying out for state legislature----even volunteer work locally, city council, etc. I could also have been clearer.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)Runninbg as a Democrat doesn't mean you are one. He's stil a neo liberal POS.
Me.
(35,454 posts)The sirens should be on with this one. And, however much I've appreciated his remarked against Comrade Trump he's still a Con at heart.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I've listened to Painter on either MSNBC or CNN, I don't know which he's a paid commentator. He definitely preaches to the Democratic side of the isle on 'all things Trump'. I don't know where he stands on other Democratic / Progressive issues.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)he'll be running against the incumbent, Tina Smith. While Tina is not Al Franken, she is a solid progressive and odd are she will receive endorsement at the party's state convention next month.
If Painter were truly concerned about going after Trump, he'd throw his support behind Smith rather than making both her campaign and the state party waste time & resources on a primary when they need to be concentrating on keeping this seat out of Republican hands.
I hope Gillibrand and the other Senate Democrats are happy with this mess.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What's to keep him from switching-back, on a whim... or when it suits him... or when it benefits him personally or politically?
mcar
(42,366 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Otherwise, you're saying that the Governor can unilaterally override the wishes of the grassroots voters.
In this instance, from what little I know of the candidates, I would favor the sitting Senator, but I wouldn't make it an absolute rule. I also hope that Painter will continue speaking out. He might help encourage switches by other Republicans who are distressed at where their party is going.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)If the Republicans don't have any serious primary races at the time (thankfully, they may for governor) they can feel free to "cross over" and help pick the DFL Senate candidate.
If Painter were serious about this he would have started in February with the party caucuses rather than jumping in a month before the state endorsing convention
BlueTsunami2018
(3,498 posts)Im sorry but this poisons the well. Just because you recognize that Тяцмр is an asshole, it doesnt make you a Democrat or a progressive. It just means youre not a complete idiot.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)dameatball
(7,399 posts)I think Painter might be sincere, but this strategy is being employed by Republicans in some lesser races in order to defeat "real" Democrats in primaries.