Joy Reids New Homophobic Blog Post Comments Prompt LGBT Group to Take Back Award

[7962]

Source: Newsweek

LGBT advocacy group PFLAG National rescinded Joy Ann Reid’s ally award yesterday after she claimed that homophobic posts discovered on her former blog were "fabricated."

Reid apologized last December when a Twitter user uncovered posts containing homophobic remarks on The Reid Report, a blog she ran before became an icon of the #Resistance movement.

“As someone who is not a member of the LGBT community, I regret the way I addressed the complex issue of the closet and speculation on a person’s sexual orientation with a mocking tone and sarcasm,” Reid wrote in her statement.

She added: “It was insensitive, tone deaf and dumb.”
Earlier this month the MSNBC host backtracked on her apology. In an interview with Mediaite, Reid claimed the posts were “fabricated” by an external party who intended to paint her as “offensive and harmful.”

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/lgbt-group-rescinds-joy-reids-award-after-homophobic-blog-posts-revealed-900071

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The old "I was hacked" excuse. The Internet never forgets!

[left-of-center2012]

1. I will be interested in seeing the responses here on this.

[7962]

5. I'll wager there will be few. But it is newsworthy even if its disappointing.

I think we should all be judged equally.
People saying that "but she's a great voice for progressives" are really no different than trumpers who excuse his womanizing because "he's getting things done"
These statements weren't just a passing joke, they were in-depth. And putting blame elsewhere isnt helping. Curious to see how MSNBC deals with this. So far I've seen nothing on Morning Joe about it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Disappointing to say the least. I'd to think Joy's explanations are true and give her

the benefit of the doubt. It's just that her history of this sort of thing that gives me pause.

[Roy Rolling]

38. Now, More Woke

She has always pushed the envelope to get where she is. I can excuse her crude attempt at humor, but the excuse of being hacked needs exploring. Lying to cover up bad behavior is much more serious than being crude ten years ago.

She had a tweet last year that similarly shocked my sensibilities, and since then made me wonder about her ability to resist the urge to go hyper on her pet issues.

Still, I give her a pass. But my unwavering support was already shattered by her tweet from last year.

[Vinca]

2. Assuming the posts are hers - and I haven't really followed this - we have to remember that

it has long been the tradition of black churches to interpret scripture in a rather narrow way when it comes to gays, gay marriage, etc. I imagine this is what Joy was exposed to growing up. People change (and so do churches) so I don't think we should banish Joy from the earth. She's a good person and a great spokesperson for what we want to promote.

[Calista241]

6. The way back machine seems to say that the posts were made

10 years ago:

“The Internet Archive responded to Ms. Reid’s claim on Tuesday, saying in a statement that it had found no evidence of hacking in the archived versions of her site on the Wayback Machine.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/media/joy-reid-homophobic-blog-posts.html

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. I hear you, but if this is true, there needs to be some repercussions...

as much as that pains me to say, given Joy's positive contribution to many progressive causes.

[Tipperary]

81. So do a lot of white churches. Never mind the Muslim mindset on this.

I love her, but excusing her because she was raised in a “black church” is bullshit.

[Vinca]

84. You can't excuse her because her views have evolved?

If not, I guess there's no point in a racist or a homophobe or any other hater to change because they will always carry the label even if they aren't currently what they were.

[David__77]

3. Sounds irresponsible to me.

Owning and then disowning some action strikes me as irresponsible.

[Glorfindel]

4. I'm sorry to learn of this. I very much wish she had just left well-enough alone. n/t

[lark]

7. Damn!

I'm really surprised to see this as I've never heard even a hint of this when I've watched her shows. Maybe she educated herself in the meantime and grew in what she accepts?

[leftynyc]

8. She has to prove

she was hacked or she's done for being a homophobe AND a liar. That's the barometer I'd use for the right wing and I certainly expect more from my side of the aisle.

[7962]

12. Certainly taking a big risk. Too many experts out there these days. And I agree with you.

During Pres Obamas term. I used to ask myself "would this decision piss me off if W did it?"
But I'm pretty sure that in that respect we're in the minority here..

[leftynyc]

18. I want the truth from her

And this hacking excuse stinks of a cover up. I can easily accept someone growing emotionally and intellectually with age but I wont condone a liar. I'm willing to bend on some issues because there are no perfect candidates for me but some are simply not negotiable.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Yes, if she did it and owned up to it and splained how her heart had changed and

there were no later incidents, that's one thing. BUT, if she's lying about the hacking, that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

[7962]

74. +1!

[LanternWaste]

48. The implicit criticism

"But I'm pretty sure that in that respect we're in the minority here..."

The implicit (and of course, thoroughly unsupported) criticism of others is often the only way we can pat ourselves on the back and achieve the self-validation so many require in a form maintaining the pretense relevance.

Nice job!

[7962]

73. "Thoroughly" supported by many below. But you'd know that if you actually paid attention.

This is yet another example of your desire to spout forth well-worded insults to those of us with standards or with whom you disagree. I guess you get some sort of a feeling of superiority over the rest of us by using what you consider to be an exceptional vocabulary?
I see it in many of your condescending responses to others as well.
SAD!

[Jedi Guy]

95. LOL

Well said. Glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that. The funny part, to me, is that when proven wrong, he/she never bothers to respond.

More on topic, I agree with you. If these things had been said by a conservative, even one who's currently an ally for LGBT, there would be no forgiveness, no second chances, no benefits of the doubt. If the standard applies, then it applies to everyone, or it's a double standard. I have no patience or tolerance for double standards.

[7962]

100. Thanks!

[melman]

106. + one bazillion

Such a tired act.

[7962]

117. Thank you. And a great way to put it.

[TheSmarterDog]

9. Am I missing something here?

If the LGBT community wants society to grow up & recognize their humanity & celebrate their contributions to society, then they have to allow individuals to so as well. Joy Reid expressed regret & apologized, but people are still chomping at the bit to crucify her.

Be reminded that our opponents proudly do this shit everyday without hesitation or remorse.

[bullwinkle428]

10. She DID initally express regret and apologize for the posts in question. However,

she chose to backtrack and use the "I was hacked" excuse.

[TheSmarterDog]

13. So, what homophobic statements has she made recently?

The headline in the OP says they're "new" but only references blog posts from 6-10 years ago.

And you can't just dismiss the claim that she was hacked, either. Not with Trump sitting in the Oval Office.

[7962]

17. But the system handling the archives says theres no proof of hacking.

As another poster mentioned, now that she's gone to the "I was hacked" excuse, she damn well better have proof. I gave her the benefit of the doubt before, but going this route will be a big problem if she's lying.
"New" because they were just now discovered.
People today get punished for past statements all the time, even if they say "Sorry".
This wasnt a one-off, she had a history of many detailed anti-gay statements and its on HER to prove a hack. The internet doesnt forget.

[TheSmarterDog]

19. What homophobic statements has she made recently?

If you're not willing to accept that people can grow & change, then you're demanding that they be perfect from birth. That's not realistic or even helpful.

[7962]

75. Certainly people can grow & change;

but you dont have any problem with her going to the "I was hacked" excuse and denying that these latest posts are real? Without any proof? That hardly seems like growth in this case

[TheSmarterDog]

79. What "latest posts". They're 10 yrs old.

As for the hacking, try and read mia's post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210536741

Don't pretend it's not likely after what we've seen over the last couple years.

Plus the fact that this whole "Joy is evil" narrative is being pushed had by the usual suspects: Breitbart, Wikileaks, Greenwald, etc. The more I learn about it, the more it stinks.

[7962]

83. Yes, 10 yrs old. But just NOW found. Supposedly.

The people who handle the Wayback Machine say theres no proof of any tampering in their system, which is where these came from. THEY arent a RW company. I'm no code geek, so I'll wait and see. Its just that I've seen so many people get busted on things they've said in the past, holler "I've been hacked" and it turns out they lied.
At some point I imagine the real truth will come out. Just maybe not today!

[TheSmarterDog]

85. I think the truth has come out. mia has it.

And the fact that you refuse to even consider the possibility of a hack, given all the hacks we've seen in recent history, is very telling.

[7962]

87. "I'm no code geek, so I'll wait and see" That kinda means I dont know.

Of course its a possibility. As for Mia's info, see post 77.

[TheSmarterDog]

88. That's the purpose of propaganda: to reinforce the targets' prejudices & keep them ignorant.

You've already admitted that you're ignorant about technical issues. The fact that the info in #77 is presented in the way that it is (with the insinuation that Nichols not only knew neo-Nazis, but share their beliefs - without saying it directly, but without questioning his technical abilities, and not even questioning why a supposed neo-Nazi would accept employ by a liberal black woman) leads me to believe that we're seeing a extensive & deliberate propaganda attack by the Right on Joy Reid being carried out.

The real question is why? And why are you falling for it?

[7962]

93. We constantly see people "outed" here for their previous associations & comments.

When someone gives a speech to a group, writes an article for a paper/magazine, etc, appears on a show.
There are many examples of being tarnished by past actions.
Why is this info on this man instantly NOT believed? Were HIS tweets "hacked" as well? He's locked his act now. What else is out there on HIM?
This is just weird from the start. Regardless, it will probably blow over by next week

[TheSmarterDog]

94. If you think it's weird, then it probably is. The "Joy is evil" narrative is bullshit.

But for some people it won't just "blow over". Weeks, months or years from now, when they need to discredit Joy Reid again, they'll dig out this old, false chestnut (maybe even your own OP) with no context, no attribution, and no actual facts.

That's another way propaganda works.

[Jedi Guy]

97. It seems to me that if she's claiming she was hacked, it's on her to prove her assertion.

If she has evidence of hacking, let's see it. Thus far, no evidence has been forthcoming. The folks at the Internet Archive have investigated and stated they can find no evidence of hacking.

To my way of thinking, saying something ten years ago that is offensive by modern standards is forgivable. Times change. Lying, on the other hand, is not something we accept from our political opposite numbers. Why then would or should we excuse it from one of our own? She made a minor gaffe, and then compounded it by lying about it.

Or she really was hacked. If so, she'd do well to provide proof sooner rather than later.

[TheSmarterDog]

98. read mia's post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210536741

[lapucelle]

57. None.

An amateur sleuth "found" previously undiscovered posts ostensibly dated 10 years ago, but with suspicious time stamps, according to an investigator.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210536741

[Snackshack]

28. True.

[David__77]

107. Why the fuck you telling the LGBT community what it HAS to do?

...

[TheSmarterDog]

108. How the fuck can society advance if individuals don't? LGBT people included.

Get over yourself.

[Behind the Aegis]

115. Because str8splanin' is acceptable.

We have seen this before with remarks about "ponies" in regards to our wanting marriage equality, to "wait and see" in regards to other issues of GLBT equality, and "other groups have it worse" in regards to discussions of homophobia. It really is no surprise given not too long ago homophobic jokes were defended as "well, the ends justify the means."

Sad, but wholly unsurprising.

[GulfCoast66]

114. This is not about her stance on LGBQ issues years ago.

A stance many Democratic members shared before the party and nation evolved.

This is about her opposition to someone else in the progressive movement.

And is the first and apparently successful attempt by nefarious forces to divide us.

She is a true voice for our side.

[rainin]

11. Another example of dems and progressives having to be PERFECT

while republicans can say ANYTHING they want. We put montages together of republicans contradicting themselves, being offensive to just about everyone, and it doesn't hurt them at all.

Just look at this president!!!! Argh!!!!! Joy Reid should just tell everyone to shut up! If they want to go after someone for being insensitive, she is not the problem!!!

[TheSmarterDog]

14. Bingo. You get it.

[Doodley]

53. We shouldn't use the despicable behavior of any Republicans as an excuse.

[HenryWallace]

61. Well done!

Let's christen this the "Shawn Hannity defense."

[joshcryer]

89. Exactly. It's clique culture.

And it is particularly racist since these views were not uncommon among POC. Remember Prop 8? No, it was not a myth that African-Americans supported it way more than any other demographic: http://abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/CAExitPollGayMarriage.pdf

It takes time for peoples opinions to change. Such a shift should be championed, and not ostracized. Joy Reid is a great advocate.

It's also fascinating, and unsurprising, how someone like Glen Greenwald is all over this, given how he's had posts in his past drudged up.

[hlthe2b]

15. Ohhhhhhhh...

Does it matter if she has changed? Really, asking sincerely...Not at all excusing... just asking....

It does to me... The Joy Reed I see, watch, read is not a homophobe today at least...

[all american girl]

46. This is just my opinion

but it seems white men can change and grow, but women and POC are not allowed to. When white men are held to the same standard as women and POC I will, maybe listen to what they have to say...until then, don't care.

[Blue_Adept]

16. Time for her to be exiled!

Progressive purity is a must.

[leftynyc]

20. I don't see anyone asking

for purity. Only asking for the truth. Is that really too much to ask?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Apparently.

[HenryWallace]

49. Yes, yes..... its outrageous!

Wanting a journalist to have credibility.

[IronLionZion]

21. She joked that Charlie Crist was a closeted homosexual

America as a country has evolved considerably in the last 10 years on LGBT issues so she's probably evolved too.

[padah513]

22. Stephanie Miller was just talking about this

She said Joy made a joke about Charlie Crist for which she apologized, and then her blog was hacked. Someone went into the archives and added comments.

[Honeycombe8]

23. I'd need to see the actual posts rather than someone's conclusion about them.

Saying they're homophobic is a conclusion. I would want to see the actual posts.

Only one post is quoted in the article. It's actually a post calling out the hypocrisy of the GOP, but she refers to Gov Christie as "Miss Christie."

So I'd need to see more of them, and the dates of them.

But the "Miss Christie" is an improper reference. Is that enough? Not when the article references multiple posts. So I'd need to see them all to see where her head was at and her general stance.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. That's fair... I'd like to see the other posts too.

[Tom Rinaldo]

42. You can see them (link below)

I don't know enough about what can and can not be hacked (and how) in archives to have an independent opinion as to whether these are how they were written by Joy at the time.

I got a link from this portion of the NY Times story which has a live hyperlink embedded into it online:

"The newly discovered posts were found on the Wayback Machine, a project of the Internet Archive, and were shared on social media last week by the Twitter user who discovered Ms. Reid’s old blog posts last year. That user did not respond to a request for comment on Tuesday."

Here is the link to the NY Times story. You can get to the posts by clicking the hyperlink yourself
:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/media/joy-reid-homophobic-blog-posts.html

It includes Joy's claim of being hacked and statements from the archive managers saying there is no evidence for any tampering.

[hlthe2b]

24. I think this tweet pushed by (from) Glenn Greenwald should tell most that something is not right

with this. Be suspect, folks. I trust Greenwald and his ilck as far as I could toss him while sitting in a chair.

Why is this coming up AGAIN now? Who is behind this attempt to destroy Joy Reid, one of the few Liberal POC and female voices gaining traction on TV? Just something to consider, though I surely do NOT condone homophobia in any form.

Link to tweet

[leftynyc]

25. GFY, greenwald

You hating her is the best reason I can think of to support her. I'm simply looking for the truth.

[JustAnotherGen]

27. That's why I'm sitting this one out

Seriously - I need a source/investigative so-called reporter other than Greenwald. I - do - not- trust - him. If it's proven she did this then I'm good to go. But - I'm not going to align with Russian loving scum like Greenwald.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

62. How about CNN and The Library of Congress Archive?

The Library of Congress archive show the posts as archived in 2006

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/25/media/joy-reid-msnbc-host-wayback-machine/index.html

The Library of Congress archive reviewed by CNNMoney -- which the Library says is created using a local installation of the Wayback Machine -- contains the disputed posts and lists them as having been archived on January 12, 2006. The documents provided by MSNBC to CNNMoney do not contain a letter to the Library of Congress regarding its archive.

Here are the posts. Including the “gay men are pedophiles” bullshit justifying homophobia — which, I suspect, is why she is trying to cover this up.

[JustAnotherGen]

64. I don't understand

[DeminPennswoods]

91. This is what everyone's up in arms about?

There's nothing here except a review of a few reasons why some people get uptight about gay men.

[Eliot Rosewater]

101. Joy is fighting the KGB, Rump and another well known group I cant mention, so they

are attacking her.

Nobody is safe.

[DeminPennswoods]

111. Just don't see the "homophobia" here

at all. It's just an essay talking about why some people are homophobic. As for the Charlie Christ comments from years ago, it was juvenile innuendo for which she apologized.

[still_one]

40. Is this the same Greenwald who said the Russian investigation is like Joe McCarthy?

[hlthe2b]

63. one and the same. Be skeptical, DUers, be discerning, please.

[JustAnotherGen]

71. n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

66. Yep

Someone drunk is saying Library of Congress - but the Russkies probably hacked in and put the info there.

[JustAnotherGen]

69. Isn't the FBI involved

I mean seriously - I just read that somewhere. The FBI is involved.

[still_one]

70. That is what some are saying I hear

[dalton99a]

44. +1

[joshcryer]

90. Lest we forget Greenwald has similarly crappy posts floating around out there.

But he's a rape apologist. And if you respond with his old posts he'll immediately block you (he watches his Twitter like a hawk).

BTW, Greenwald and Wikileaks have had it out for Joy for awhile now: https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029828301

They were just carefully waiting for the time to drop this story.

[hlthe2b]

96. This post. Others PLEASE read and don't be bamboozled

[mercuryblues]

30. Wait a minute

Aren't Democrats supposed to accept this kind of stuff to advance the party? Because she is so great with other issues.

There are many threads on how women should accept and vote for an anti-choice Democrat, because they are with us on so many other things. Besides republicans are way worse.

So those of you that are for party over principle explain to me why I should put my rights on the table and disown Joy for anti-LGBT comments in the past.

[Botany]

33. This is another "Al Franken" rat fucking operation.

Joy has been a wonderful LBGT supporter.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. No question Joy's support for the LGBT community should be a consideration...

I just hope Joy's being truthful about the hack job. I'd also like to hear more from the LGBT community regarding their views, as they are the targets of any insensitive comments. (Though, if true, it should offend all of us and our sensibilities.)

[dalton99a]

43. Sure smells like one

[workinclasszero]

45. Seems like it

Gotta take out all the strong liberals.

[OnDoutside]

52. Has Kirsten issued a statement yet ?

[poboy2]

59. oh snap. -nt

[JustAnotherGen]

72. rat fucking

at its absolute worst.

[Hav]

35. The article is pretty bad and sloppy

No details on what is supposed to be the new information. I'm also not sure whether people are talking about different things. Is Reid backtracking on having made the comments about Crist, for which she has apologized, or is she denying that some new accusations are true? The initial comments about Crist were insensitive but relatively mild and I'm pretty sure I saw similar insinuations back then here on DU about Crist.

[poboy2]

36. Keep falling for bringing down our own. All fighters are doomed. Western Democracy is doomed -nt

[Cold War Spook]

39. If her remarks are over 5 years old, they are meaningless to me.

About the hacks. How do you prove there were no hacks. All you can do is show how you came to the conclusion that she wasn't hacked, and then people will have to decide for themselves.

[Hav]

41. "How do you prove there were no hacks."

If she claims the posts were hacked in december, then archived files of her block prior to that would prove that. Not sure how the Internet Archive works but if they keep it similar to a backup and files from years ago match what is seen now, then their response that they can't find evidence for a hack would carry some weight.

[stonecutter357]

47. #facknews

[Orsino]

50. #metoo is about reexamining past behaviors once hidden or widely considered acceptable.

So is #blacklivesmatter. So should be #itgetsbetter.

Even Joy Reid has found that looking in the mirror can be painful.

[lapucelle]

54. ...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210536741

[KPN]

55. Aye-yi-yi!

[Blue_Tires]

56. Greenwald is jizzing himself in an orgasmic fury on Twitter right now

This is his chance to kill three birds with one stone...

[Rustyeye77]

58. Obviously we should virtually kill her...Burn her at the stake.

a double dealing puke.... throw her off tv

Her true self is out !!!! Shes not pure.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

60. We did it to Franken, we can do it again!

#et-tu

[Rustyeye77]

65. I guess 1% enemy outweighs 99% friend.

nt

[poboy2]

67. Doomed. We are doomed. Going high, but doomed. -nt

[R B Garr]

68. Bernie's groups must be afraid of her.

We all know what kind of mole Greenwald is now. The people promoting this are all behind shutting her up. So transparent.

[leftynyc]

76. Sigh

How much more crap are we going to find out about?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/joy-reids-cyber-security-expert-bragged-about-affiliations-with-neo-nazis/

[Hassin Bin Sober]

77. Jesus. Talk about out if the frying pan and in to the fire.

And he is doing his own personal profile scrubbing of his own image.

Joy Ann Reid’s “cyber security expert” Jonathan Nichols, who the MSNBC host hired to prove that she did not write the supposedly “fabricated” anti-gay posts published on her old blog, once bragged about knowing prominent white supremacist Andrew “weev” Auernheimer.

NBC quietly circulated a statement from Nichols late Tuesday night which claimed to have found “evidence Joy Reid’s now-defunct blog, the Reid Report, was breached after a review of suspicious activity.”

While the Reid debacle thus far has focused on dated homophobic material published on the AM Joy host’s now-defunct blog The Reid Report, it appears that Nichols himself has a history of disturbing old posts.

The self-declared “Current Cyber Guy, Former PSYOP guy” goes by the handle @wvualphasoldier on Twitter, where he posts a stream of self-serious, bizarre ramblings. After NBC released a statement regarding his work for Reid, however, Nichols deleted all of his account’s old posts, went on a tweetstorm declaring a “lock down” of his account, and then placed it on protected mode so non-followers could not see his tweets.

[QC]

80. The Russians made him do that. n/t

[joshcryer]

92. Mediate has a reading comprehension fail here.

He was obviously tweeting about finding out about the guy he formally covered in cyber security turned out to be a neo-Nazi and how ironically he now had "connections" to the neo-nazi's.

In other words, he was fortelling this exact smear that is being made against him.

[Gothmog]

78. The lynching of Joy Ann Reid by the Bernie left

The attacks on Joy Reid by certain groups are sad https://medium.com/@investigator_21314/the-lynching-of-joy-ann-reid-by-the-bernie-left-c7de005a19fb

For almost a year now, a very vocal segment of Bernie Sanders supporters have harassed and stalked black activists, journalists and contributors on Twitter and other social media sites. Behind this campaign was the fact that a lot of black voters didn’t vote for Bernie, which was met with incredible anger by a part of the Bernie left.

Instead of analyzing why POC were critical of Bernie, or why Bernie refused to campaign among POC, they started to harass and intimidate black Twitter users.

The list of victims to this aggressive crowd of Bernie supporters is long by now: Joy Ann Reid, Donna Brazile, Jehmu Greene, Neera Tanden, Kamala Harris, Maxine Waters, Yamiche Alcindor, Zerlina Maxwell, and less known Twitter users: Angry Black Lady (Imani Gandy), T_FisherKing, Mr Dane/ Mr Weeks, Sir James, Ange_Amene, Bravenak and many, many more.

What these people have in common is that

A: they’re POC,

B: they’re at times very critical of Bernie Sanders.

This in itself is enough for ongoing extreme harassment, stalking, threats, intimidation and worse.

[Eliot Rosewater]

102. Yep...

[David__77]

109. PFLAG is out to get here perhaps.

...

[m-lekktor]

113. PFLAG is the "Bernie left" now?

[Gothmog]

116. From Malcom Nance

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[TheDebbieDee]

82. Joy Reid is the latest victim of BLACK PROPAGANDA...

Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2018, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Black Propaganda is controversial, unsettling, false information inserted into an actual authenticated email or other document that has been repurposed/stolen from the originator...

Black Propaganda is designed to place erroneous facts into the MSM and smear the reputation of the target, in this case, Joy Ann Reid...

[Oneironaut]

86. She probably should have just said, I evolved.

The “I was hacked” excuse makes you look guilty. Still, I don’t think this is a major issue. Of course, MSNBC and the Democrats will probably overreact and fire her.

[Politicub]

99. I don't know who Joy Reid is...

but anyone can change and evolve over time.

[David__77]

110. I think that is very true.

That is a very good point. At the same time, the comments - whoever made them - suck ass.

[Ferrets are Cool]

103. FUCK, I get tired of us eating our own. nt

[Oneironaut]

104. And meanwhile, some Republicans want to KILL members of the LGBT community.

What she said is not ok, but it’s even worse to be spineless band-wagoners and demand she be fired.

[Ferrets are Cool]

105. So very true.

[Kingofalldems]

112. Trump is still going down.

Another 'bad things about Democrats' post going nowhere.